SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[Connor 25257]

One second he looks like he’s about to fall off the edge of a cliff, the next he comes back with a reasonable response.......I just hope it’s not too late. This latest response was more along the lines of what people were looking for. Just as BBBG said, it would’ve mitigated a lot of backlash. As a seller/distributor, you should always be looking at things through the consumers prospective. Because without buyers, you have no business, and no business means no money. Simple and effective way to look at it.

 

[iceman440]

It was not till the idea of loss of sales came into mind that it was important to throw away tainted gear.

He might as well have said

“Hey everyone, since I fucked up and y’all don’t wanna refilter my abortion, I guess I’ll say I’ll throw it away so you feel better”

 

[iceman440]

One second he looks like he’s about to fall off the edge of a cliff, the next he comes back with a reasonable response.......I just hope it’s not too late. This latest response was more along the lines of what people were looking for. Just as BBBG said, it would’ve mitigated a lot of backlash. As a seller/distributor, you should always be looking at things through the consumers prospective. Because without buyers, you have no business, and no business means no money. Simple and effective way to look at it.

no, this is him grasping at straws

 

[Villain]

One second he looks like he’s about to fall off the edge of a cliff, the next he comes back with a reasonable response.......

Lol, I’m pretty sure you are his son since several have said the same of you.

 

[Akimopio]

Yea that’s a more appropriate response but now it’s hard for us to even know if he’s really going to toss the existing inventory due to his initial response.

 

[jbil75]

He might as well have said

“Hey everyone, since I fucked up and y’all don’t wanna refilter my abortion, I guess I’ll say I’ll throw it away so you feel better”

It’s a classic example of pride getting in the way of judgement.

 

[4Figgy]

He might as well have said

“Hey everyone, since I fucked up and y’all don’t wanna refilter my abortion, I guess I’ll say I’ll throw it away so you feel better”

Did you just reply to you own post

 

[biggerben69]

He might as well have said

“Hey everyone, since I fucked up and y’all don’t wanna refilter my abortion, I guess I’ll say I’ll throw it away so you feel better”

Yeah...I don't believe for one second that the gear is trash can bound. That's just me and my guess.
What's happening iceman? Pleasure running into you this morning.

 

[iceman440]

Yeah...I don't believe for one second that the gear is trash can bound. That's just me and my guess.
What's happening iceman? Pleasure running into you this morning.

Good morning good sir!

 

[iceman440]

Yeah he won’t throw it away. He was not willing to spend 2-4K on our saftey, now he will have to re-brand and spend 6-8k and finished sample reports.

Serves him right.

 

[Villain]

Yea that’s a more appropriate response but now it’s hard for us to even know if he’s really going to toss the existing inventory due to his initial response.

While it would be more time consuming, the smarter thing to do would be to pop those caps off and re-filter

 

[B Ware]

No way he’s tossing all that gear. You don’t throw 1000s of $$$ away. It will all be refiltered. Actually, maybe it won’t. He will probably just step up his QC and start actually inspecting before shipping. He better not get lazy again as one more report of floaters and he’s done.

 

[Villain]

No way he’s tossing all that gear. You don’t throw 1000s of $$$ away. It will all be refiltered. Actually, maybe it won’t. He will probably just step up his QC and start actually inspecting before shipping. He better not get lazy again as one more report of floaters and he’s done.

He may already be done here. His change of tune comes off as pandering and telling us what we want to hear.

 

[Slates15]

Is that fiber in the vial or is it stuck to the label? Does it move with the oil or stay stationary?

It is floating. I probably spent 5 minutes on each vial with my phone flash light and playing with the labels to make sure it was not scratches or the labels. It moves with the liquid. Honestly if it weren't for me being over cautious due to all the recent finds I probably wouldn't have seen it. Definitely an eye opener for me when it comes to inspecting further gear.

 

[B Ware]

He may already be done here. His change of tune comes off as pandering and telling us what we want to hear.

You’d think. In the past this wouldn’t of been tolerated. The guy’s defense to floaters was that “no biggie because the floaters are sterile” Sad that the fan boys defended him through all this. At least we learned who’s who

 

[Akimopio]

You’d think. In the past this wouldn’t of been tolerated. The guy’s defense to floaters was that “no biggie because the floaters are sterile” Sad that the fan boys defended him through all this. At least we learned who’s who

He most likely is done but it will be a slow process of his sales plummeting. This is why we need at least 2 or 3 good domestic sources which sets the bar higher and leaves no room for error.

 

[iceman440]

You’d think. In the past this wouldn’t of been tolerated. The guy’s defense to floaters was that “no biggie because the floaters are sterile” Sad that the fan boys defended him through all this. At least we learned who’s who

honestly, if it was isolated incident that only happened for a month, it would be one thing.

the fact that this has been going on for at least 7 months shows there has been absolutely ZERO quality control in his game.

this shows the craftsmanship of a skilled worker. Complacency is the killer here. He assume his roll of meso top dog and stopped caring about customers saftey, which should always be the first priority.

 

[Villain]

He most likely is done but it will be a slow process of his sales plummeting. This is why we need at least 2 or 3 good domestic sources which sets the bar higher and leaves no room for error.

Why do we need sources here if this isn’t a source board? There is always room for error and always will be and despite the errors that will inevitably come, the fanbois will also inevitably come to rationalize, justify and defend the errors. “Come on guys, just give them a chance to make things right!” “I think you’re being too hard on these sources!” At the end of the day, you have people more loyal to a source than they are to safety and harm reduction. It’s pathetic.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

He most likely is done but it will be a slow process of his sales plummeting. This is why we need at least 2 or 3 good domestic sources which sets the bar higher and leaves no room for error.

We don’t NEED any sources here

^^^ That’s the mentality guys get confused with.

It’s nice to have good sources but we’re not desperate for them. Guys get giddy or something because they order via email to an anonymous stranger and oil comes to them in a vial.

Do you get giddy buying milk at the 7-11? Defend Habib because he usually sells good milk?

Guys need to learn this is a BUSINESS transaction - nothing more. And if you pay, you should receive what you expect. Nothing more and nothing less. To fall in love with your drug dealer leads to bad business decisions.

 

[Akimopio]

Why do we need sources here if this isn’t a source board? There is always room for error and always will be and despite the errors that will inevitably come, the fanbois will also come to rationalize, justify and defend the errors. “Come on guys, just give them a chance to make things right!” “I think you’re being too hard on these sources!” At the end of the day, you have people more loyal to a source than they are to safety and harm reduction. It’s pathetic.

I’m saying people wouldn’t waste their breath if we had another good domestic source on here. It’s not right at all but it’s the truth. That’s his only “card” to use right now which I doubt will work. I’d rather wait on clean gear from Uganda for 90 days than to get some dirty vials in a week