SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

@SymBiotics
Props for being a decent human being. You won't show your wife's tits and you won't compound something that you feel is out of the abilities of your setup. You admit that you are in this for money, but you still put folks' safety and your wife first. You don't see too many class acts like that in the UGL space.
He could at least put up some cheap tinder sluts tits.
 
@SymBiotics Forgive me if this has been asked already, I tried re reading through the thread but I didn't see anything. I was wondering are you offering credit for blood work? I only remember reading $150 credit for the first 6 test serum test done.
 
Bro you are so fuckn paranoid it’s fuckn sickening. A motherfucker goes out of there way to do tests for motherfuckers like you to have quality gear and you still bitch and moan. I’m fuckn done even acknowledging you man. I’m fuck speechless bro. My mind is blown at how ignorant you really are. Less complaining more training. I’m out man
I'm glad you responded because it was directed more at you then @Joedaddy5150
@TorroXL isnt doing anything on his own without incentives or by doing some behind the scenes shit. Dont worry in time it will come out, it always does.

@TorroXL you are so appalled at my questioning of you, then why dont you just answer if you ever take free fear or money from sources?

It is funny how innocent people think this game is. It's not there is a lot of shady shit that goes down here. If you want, why dont you dig through @TorroXL past, maybe you might see the light.
 
I'm glad you responded because it was directed more at you then @Joedaddy5150
@TorroXL isnt doing anything on his own without incentives or by doing some behind the scenes shit. Dont worry in time it will come out, it always does.

@TorroXL you are so appalled at my questioning of you, then why dont you just answer if you ever take free fear or money from sources?

It is funny how innocent people think this game is. It's not there is a lot of shady shit that goes down here. If you want, why dont you dig through @TorroXL past, maybe you might see the light.


I do not want to get in on this particular case. However, this guy does have a critical point in that I do know for a fact without naming anyone. People here have taken free gear tested it with the source knowing that gear was going to be tested. Also deals made under the table many of times. With that said wether it be right or wrong on my part I always let a source know that regardless of the substance I do 30 ,60 , and 90 day bloods. That could be letting a source know I will be testing his shit then so be it? If I'm in the wrong bash me... Either way wether this man knows specifically about this scenario or not who knows? But I do personally love the fact more testing is going on! I am pro testing purity and running bloods regardless the source. I believe it makes it safer for everyone involved in this game and I will never knock a man for doing so. If it was a set up thing "which I have also seen here in the past " when 2 guys get together under the table say its a random buyer and then test are done. When in reality it was orchestrated from the rip. That party A) new and dosed those batches to be tested and party B) tested those batches mainly to be incentivized in one form or another.

With all that said I do not want any part of this beef!!! I am just stating objectively and honestly what I...myself have seen over the years take place here.
 
I do not want to get in on this particular case. However, this guy does have a critical point in that I do know for a fact without naming anyone. People here have taken free gear tested it with the source knowing that gear was going to be tested. Also deals made under the table many of times. With that said wether it be right or wrong on my part I always let a source know that regardless of the substance I do 30 ,60 , and 90 day bloods. That could be letting a source know I will be testing his shit then so be it? If I'm in the wrong bash me... Either way wether this man knows specifically about this scenario or not who knows? But I do personally love the fact more testing is going on! I am pro testing purity and running bloods regardless the source. I believe it makes it safer for everyone involved in this game and I will never knock a man for doing so. If it was a set up thing "which I have also seen here in the past " when 2 guys get together under the table say its a random buyer and then test are done. When in reality it was orchestrated from the rip. That party A) new and dosed those batches to be tested and party B) tested those batches mainly to be incentivized in one form or another.

With all that said I do not want any part of this beef!!! I am just stating objectively and honestly what I...myself have seen over the years take place here.
No doubt, I am a big supporter of lab testing and have had provided this forum my results several times. The issue comes when the buyer is getting money, free gear or whatever other kickbacks to promote or defend his product. This forum is about accountability and transparency. However others use their seniority to get what they can out of a source and use their rep to help the source.

With that said, I did not attack @Joedaddy5150 just questioned something that seemed odd. Then @TorroXL jps in with lab results as well. For the ones that have been around a while you have seen @TorroXL play his games before, get money, free gear and support the source. Then get locked up, released and repeat. Sources always help him on his feet for his support here.

Fuck that, I will call a spade a spade every time.
 
I'm glad you responded because it was directed more at you then @Joedaddy5150
@TorroXL isnt doing anything on his own without incentives or by doing some behind the scenes shit. Dont worry in time it will come out, it always does.

@TorroXL you are so appalled at my questioning of you, then why dont you just answer if you ever take free fear or money from sources?

It is funny how innocent people think this game is. It's not there is a lot of shady shit that goes down here. If you want, why dont you dig through @TorroXL past, maybe you might see the light.
What part of anything you said has to do with the fact that you couldn’t read the damn dates right on the testing report? Lol.
 
@TheObjective1 Well bloods are done on one single compound- Test. Which ironically is the cheapest thing to make. I’d be under the impression all UGL’s (at least the ones with common sense) will be anticipating the fact that users will be looking to get bloods done on their testosterone types.

On the topic of bloodwork also, it’s probably the shittiest method of testing a sources gear possible. You have-
1. Credit incentives and trusting the people who report their bloodwork (I could be on fuck knows who’s test, order some prop, and 30 days later get a nice blood work store credit).
2. It shows testosterone and estrogen levels, testosterone being a VERY wild variable due to genetics. Some guys may be poor fucking responders and have a 1200 test level on 700mgs of test from any lab. Of course alternatively, someone else using that same batch of test could have a level of 2800ng on 700mgs. The lab they did the bloods for now looks like shit and most people would assume they are inaccurately dosing their products..

I know lipids can be an indicator of some things (maybe orals.. sigh), or maybe estrogen spiked severely due to tren (again, a shit way to determine that the products legit).

I despise bloodwork, there’s far too many variables and it’s only useful for the cheapest product that a source can brew...

I will probably get “corrected” or get some shit for my bloodwork opinion, but at the end of the day nobody can argue that trusting a bloodwork report means your trusting an anonymous person with a store credit incentive..
 
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What part of anything you said has to do with the fact that you couldn’t read the damn dates right on the testing report? Lol.
Hey retard, maybe you can't read but the dates I stated are correct. Anything other dumb shit you gotta say? Or you done making yourself look stupid?
 
I think the best part of your post is @TorroXL liking your post but not answering the question if he has taken money and goods from a source?

Oh wait, you can't read never mind.

You are officially on bug status. CDN GUY is on that same status. I’m not gonna waste one more second of my time acknowledging your lame ass. You make zero gains and you live and breathe a BB forum. Grow up man. Get help.
 
You are officially on bug status. CDN GUY is on that same status. I’m not gonna waste one more second of my time acknowledging your lame ass. You make zero gains and you live and breathe a BB forum. Grow up man. Get help.
I am curious if his assertions are true - you taking free gear for testing?

If the guy has evidence expect it to be posted
 
You are officially on bug status. CDN GUY is on that same status. I’m not gonna waste one more second of my time acknowledging your lame ass. You make zero gains and you live and breathe a BB forum. Grow up man. Get help.
Everything @movingiron88 has said about you is true,I've seen it played out myself,as well as other's members.A simple search of your current handle as well as the frank the tank handle will shed light on your history,lets be honest you have a history of of shady dealing behinds the scenes that have been brought foward,more then once,your reviews shouldn't be taken seriously frank!
 
I think the best part of your post is @TorroXL liking your post but not answering the question if he has taken money and goods from a source?

Oh wait, you can't read never mind.
You are right, I misread. Your not the one who didn’t understand the dates. Regardless, your still a paranoid assclown.

Regardless of wether or not any of those allegations are true, they don’t have a place here and they don’t have anything to do with those recent jano reports...
 
I ain't sticking up for anybody cause that ain't my style. All I have to say is it wouldn't benefit me in any way to work out any shady deals with any ugls. All my shit gets ordered without saying anything about testing. I flip gear so I order a bunch of gear from any ugl that tests good. It would be counterproductive for me to help any ugl do some kind of bait and switch. Once gear tests good and I have the results that prove it it makes my markup for resale higher. And to be honest the only reason I tested symbiotics gear is to have another tested domestic source to buy from. Dudes testing incentive sucks compared to every other ugl that I've done testing for.
 
I think the best part of your post is @TorroXL liking your post but not answering the question if he has taken money and goods from a source?

Oh wait, you can't read never mind.
Simple solution to your worries, buy some gear anonymously, send it off to w&m for testing and compare the results. If it comes back with different results, then you'll know some shady shit was going on.
 
Simple solution to your worries, buy some gear anonymously, send it off to w&m for testing and compare the results. If it comes back with different results, then you'll know some shady shit was going on.
In this case the difference in results could just as easily be blamed on Jano, as we all know he doesn’t have the best rep here lol.
 
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