Test 250mg EW, should I include an AI?

[AlwaysHungry]

I mean. That you need to use an AI at that dose....

I didn't need any AI in the past even on 500 I could stretch it to 750. I handle estrogen very well and I much prefer to don't take any even if my e2 is a little higher.
But after those fucking dbols my right nipple can't handle them so I need to take an AI

 

[jtmarlin]

I didn't need any AI in the past even on 500 I could stretch it to 750. I handle estrogen very well and I much prefer to don't take any even if my e2 is a little higher.
But after those fucking dbols my right nipple can't handle them so I need to take an AI

Personally I think there are more things to worry about than puffy nips from high E2 for too long. Dr Rand specifically highlights prostate cancer.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Personally I think there are more things to worry about than puffy nips from high E2 for too long. Dr Rand specifically highlights prostate cancer.

Good notice ! Prostate problems are huge concern for all us steroid users.
High T with high e2 are bad recipe for prostate. I've noticed complications with high t and high e2.
I use AI on my trt however not for puffy nips but for right nip gyno. Puffiness is another thing from gyno.

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

I've had no issues taking 250-300mg/wk test-c recently without an ai. I dropped a lot of fat last cycle though so i don't think I'm prone to estrogen issues.

 

[jtmarlin]

I've had no issues taking 250-300mg/wk test-c recently without an ai. I dropped a lot of fat last cycle though so i don't think I'm prone to estrogen issues.

If you are cycling with low doses it probably doesn't matter. For those of us on for good, IMO best to keep E2 under 40 at all times. There is a group that thinks E2 levels don't matter and that AIs are "poison" but I don't really agree with them. I throw my lot in with Dr. Rand. When I listen to him he makes so much sense.

I abused steroids in my late 20s and if I use Deca or my E2 gets too high my right nipple can have some discharge if I squeeze it. It's weird. I had a mammogram done last year and they couldn't even find any real tissue. Just the very early stages of gynecomastia which probably meant nothing. They didn't seem to be concerned at all.

 

[lukiss96]

If you are cycling with low doses it probably doesn't matter. For those of us on for good, IMO best to keep E2 under 40 at all times. There is a group that thinks E2 levels don't matter and that AIs are "poison" but I don't really agree with them. I throw my lot in with Dr. Rand. When I listen to him he makes so much sense.

I abused steroids in my late 20s and if I use Deca or my E2 gets too high my right nipple can have some discharge if I squeeze it. It's weird. I had a mammogram done last year and they couldn't even find any real tissue. Just the very early stages of gynecomastia which probably meant nothing. They didn't seem to be concerned at all.

Honestly I don't even know who to believe as this is such a sensitive topic. I just learned to go by feel and it works for me.

Dr. Rand McClain and Dr. George Touliatos are really awesome! I like their style, they're different but both have great experience. Unlike some clowns on forums who claim to be "experts" and walk at imaginary 5% bf with nothing to show lol...

Dr. McClain maybe conservative but he is very positive and confident person and that alone makes him better than most docs.

Dr. Touliatos is unique in his methods, he is not afraid to experiment. He is competing or used to and he has better physique than most "experts".

That's why you use forums just for fun and just to see anecdotal personal experiences. Gotta be really careful who you listen to though. As there are quite a bit of pretender types hiding behind silly profile.

 

[Deezznutzz]

Well it is kind of smart to be anonymous on a forum when you're admitting to Illegal activities. It's nice that you put a picture over your face now but if you Google your username your real name still pops up on the first page of Google... so you may want to fix that dumb f*** LOL

 

[lukiss96]

Well it is kind of smart to be anonymous on a forum when you're admitting to Illegal activities. It's nice that you put a picture over your face now but if you Google your username your real name still pops up on the first page of Google... so you may want to fix that dumb f*** LOL

If you think it's my real name then you need to check yourself homie...

For all you know I coul be as fake as those tits of yours lol...

And even then who gives a fuck? I don't. I can tell you my real address, my real name and all, I live in free country nobody cares that I take steroids lol.

 

[Deezznutzz]

If you think it's my real name then you need to check yourself homie...

For all you know I coul be as fake as those tits of yours lol...

And even then who gives a fuck? I don't. I can tell you my real address, my real name and all, I live in free country nobody cares that I take steroids lol.

"As there are quite a bit of pretender types hiding behind silly profile."
You're not making any sense. this is what you said above and now you're saying you joined a whole bunch of social media accounts with a fake real name? I mean come on dude that's almost laughable. So you're saying don't trust people on the internet because they can be hiding behind profiles and you're the one joining a whole bunch of social media accounts with your real name but now you're saying it's not your real name?

 

[lukiss96]

"As there are quite a bit of pretender types hiding behind silly profile."
You're not making any sense. this is what you said above and now you're saying you joined a whole bunch of social media accounts with a fake real name? I mean come on dude that's almost laughable. So you're saying don't trust people on the internet because they can be hiding behind profiles and you're the one joining a whole bunch of social media accounts with your real name but now you're saying it's not your real name?

I never said trust me because I'm real. I said you got to be really careful listening to people on forums and that could be me included. There is no real me unless I post my insta, which I'm not gonna do. Use your own head when deciding who you listen to is my point. Anyone could be fake here me included.

 

[Deezznutzz]

I never said trust me because I'm real. I said you got to be really careful listening to people on forums and that could be me included. There is no real me unless I post my insta, which I'm not gonna do. Use your own head when deciding who you listen to is my point. Anyone could be fake here me included.

Okay bro maybe I've been a little hard on you I usually don't go in on people unless they start insulting people first. You seem to be insulting a lot of members on here without even knowing it. You seem to be obsessed with body fat percentage. When you make fun of some of the people on The Forum you may not even realize you're calling out a lot of the power lifters on here. You know some guys on here are not obsessed with body fat and like to stay at a little bit higher percentage so they can push more weight.

 

[lukiss96]

Okay bro maybe I've been a little hard on you I usually don't go in on people unless they start insulting people first. You seem to be insulting a lot of members on here without even knowing it. You seem to be obsessed with body fat percentage. When you make fun of some of the people on The Forum you may not even realize you're calling out a lot of the power lifters on here. You know some guys on here are not obsessed with body fat and like to stay at a little bit higher percentage so they can push more weight.

I think language barrier makes me come across as a dick more often than not. I got mad back then cuz I was on cycle after long time off and got attacked for some random shit and I went berserk calling people out, I must admit.

As for body fat, well not too much though I got my own standards that I apply to myself and I think as long as people don't sit on the couch eating chips and watching tv all day and don't exercise it's okay. For real I don't hate on people, I just get misunderstood sometimes. I try to help, but sometimes the way I word sentence or the words I use seem insulting to others that's all there is to it.

 

[Rido]

Okay bro maybe I've been a little hard on you I usually don't go in on people unless they start insulting people first. You seem to be insulting a lot of members on here without even knowing it. You seem to be obsessed with body fat percentage. When you make fun of some of the people on The Forum you may not even realize you're calling out a lot of the power lifters on here. You know some guys on here are not obsessed with body fat and like to stay at a little bit higher percentage so they can push more weight.

I guess I never got the insulting part from him.


I think some of our miscommunication between him and I.. he thinks I'm mad when I type lol. He doesn't insult me or anything, just tells me to calm down. I'm not mad or anything.


I think think thing that pisses him off is when people talk shit about other's physique but they have no pictures to show theirs.


It's a little funny though. When you know forum members for a while, you can tell if they are on cycle(or if they are having a bad day) by the way they type or their attitude.

 

[Klimmzugernie]

It depends...
You should measure dht as well. If your 5a reductase work's good or even better than usual it is absolutely ok to have higher out of range e2 values.
If you use Finasteride or your 5a reduction rate or your dht is low on TRT it makes sense to use an ai.
Everything should meet the right portion to it's others

 

[hudson98]

all these TRT docs make $$ by telling you how this and that need to be "dialed in" they sell drugs, services, and make $$ of content. they get no hype saying "you will be fine taking test without anti E"

 

[Bakes93]

Do you feel high estrogen symptoms? If no then no AI, if yes then start low like 0.25mg e3d or so (arimidex). If experiencing gyno only then nolvadex is better. Exemestane can be better or worse for you, I like anastrazole better and in case of mild crash estro comes back faster.

I need like 0.25mg arimidex e5d on 250mg enanthate or cypionate. When you're experienced you can go by feel like I do, when I feel symptoms I throw in 0.25mg or so. It's me not you, you should find out what works for you by trial and error.

What are the symptoms you experience when you're going by feel?

 

[Klimmzugernie]

Libido reduction
Soft erection, ed, impotence
Water
Hip fat
Mood swings
Feeling sad, down, lethargic

 

[Bakes93]

Libido reduction
Soft erection, ed, impotence
Water
Hip fat
Mood swings
Feeling sad, down, lethargic

Thanks