Test base before mma fight ?

[luissp]

Injectable mibolerone. And why are you referring to yourself in 3rd person as this “friend”. You think you are avoiding incriminating yourself?

Lol, old man here, not gonna see me in a ring or cage except for sparring (tatami might be different), but my aas use is obvious enough so people turn to me in the gym when looking for related info, hence some of the questions here

 

[Driada Medical]

as an addition I would mention MENT, yes it's not so aggression rising as high androgenic orals, but it can be used for a longer period.
and it gives aggression for sure.

 

[JesterBOB]

as an addition I would mention MENT, yes it's not so aggression rising as high androgenic orals, but it can be used for a longer period.
and it gives aggression for sure.

The main thing is to keep this aggression under control so as not to create problems with the consequences.

 

[Driada Medical]

The main thing is to keep this aggression under control so as not to create problems with the consequences.

as I know, unfortunately, there are no drugs for self-control and common sense

 

[JesterBOB]

absolutely right

 

[skinnyman]

Hi

I m familiar with the use of test base in powerlifting comps and before big work outs but can't find info on its use in mma.
Would a (pro) fighter not accustomed to aas but chosing to go on a low dose of test and turinabol preparing for his fight benefit from test base before that fight ?

Thanks in advance for all input !

Old thread but I'm answering anyway.

Stay away from turinabol!

I'd stick to HGH before bed. Detection window is only 4h

Insulin post workout for recovery.

testosterone base (not suspension) 1-3h before workout/sparring.

You can still get popped if they do a carbon isotope test within 1-3 days.

 

[JesterBOB]

If, from the point of view of doping control, it is better to refuse all oral drugs altogether.

 

[SkullCrusher]

Hi

I m familiar with the use of test base in powerlifting comps and before big work outs but can't find info on its use in mma.
Would a (pro) fighter not accustomed to aas but chosing to go on a low dose of test and turinabol preparing for his fight benefit from test base before that fight ?

Thanks in advance for all input !

The only way to know is for a person to try it a few times before very intense practice settings.

Reactions are very individual and you don’t experiment on competition day, not with carb sources, not with anything.

 

[SkullCrusher]

Old thread but I'm answering anyway.

Stay away from turinabol!

I'd stick to HGH before bed. Detection window is only 4h

Insulin post workout for recovery.

testosterone base (not suspension) 1-3h before workout/sparring.

You can still get popped if they do a carbon isotope test within 1-3 days.

Why no Tbol? Drug testing?

 

[JesterBOB]

The only way to know is for a person to try it a few times before very intense practice settings.

Reactions are very individual and you don’t experiment on competition day, not with carb sources, not with anything.

As a rule, it is better to conduct such experiments in advance in order to study how the body reacts. And he is already learning to manage it in his favor.

 

[skinnyman]

Why no Tbol? Drug testing?

New detection time since a couple of years ago. Stay away from stanozolol and oral-turinabol. Detection time now is like 8 months or more.
O-T used to have a detection time of a couple of days.

It's better to stick with what our body produces, it's easier to get away with it.

 

[JesterBOB]

Yes, the timing of detection every year more and more. Doping control technologies have become very advanced.

 

[MadBret]

Unless your buddy is fighting at very high level of competition (think ufc) then he likely has nothing to worry about testing wise. I have several friends who were and still are, pro cage fighters and none of them have ever had to be tested for ped use.

 

[JesterBOB]

Unless your buddy is fighting at very high level of competition (think ufc) then he likely has nothing to worry about testing wise. I have several friends who were and still are, pro cage fighters and none of them have ever had to be tested for ped use.

Of course, it depends on the level of the athlete, and from this the level of control will be different and its presence and presence.

 

[luissp]

Unless your buddy is fighting at very high level of competition (think ufc) then he likely has nothing to worry about testing wise. I have several friends who were and still are, pro cage fighters and none of them have ever had to be tested for ped use.

yes, no doping test was the idea in the OP, although input involving testing risks have been most welcome (from me at least, it´s interesting and likely directly useful to some)

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Hi

I m familiar with the use of test base in powerlifting comps and before big work outs but can't find info on its use in mma.
Would a (pro) fighter not accustomed to aas but chosing to go on a low dose of test and turinabol preparing for his fight benefit from test base before that fight ?

Thanks in advance for all input !

No aas have never helped me when I spar. In fact, Tren in particular has really negatively affected my cardio output. In my opinion, gear has no benefit whatsoever, except maybe strength. And technique beats strength every single time. I've seen it soooo many times, the huge guys that are juiced to the gills get absolutely embarrassed in my gym, by nerdy jiu jitsu guys with coke bottle glasses that play video games all day. Technique beats strength.

 

[JesterBOB]

yes, no doping test was the idea in the OP, although input involving testing risks have been most welcome (from me at least, it´s interesting and likely directly useful to some)

THEN if there is no doping control, does it make sense to prepare for it? or is this for information

 

[luissp]

THEN if there is no doping control, does it make sense to prepare for it? or is this for information

I didn´t ask anything about doping tests, there´s none around here.
But sure, extra information is welcome, not quite off topic.

 

[luissp]

No aas have never helped me when I spar. In fact, Tren in particular has really negatively affected my cardio output. In my opinion, gear has no benefit whatsoever, except maybe strength. And technique beats strength every single time. I've seen it soooo many times, the huge guys that are juiced to the gills get absolutely embarrassed in my gym, by nerdy jiu jitsu guys with coke bottle glasses that play video games all day. Technique beats strength.

Never used Tren, but it has the reputation to very seriously harm cardio, probably a poor choice for fighters.
The part about juiced guys being humbled by much smaller dudes is naive, there´s a difference between a bodybuilder stepping into a grappling gym and juiced competitive grapplers, a look at heavyweight division in adcc or Who´s number One is a good place to start. No doping test and top grapplers in the world obviously juiced up ( lots of smaller grapplers also juice ime). Pride days and before Usada UFC also gave strong hints on how aas helped fighters.
I see almost everyday nimble athletes submitting much bigger guys, especially when heel hooks are used, but it´s easy to notice extra weight and physical strength help balancing quite a bit of technical disadvantage

 

[Ouch]

Never used Tren, but it has the reputation to very seriously harm cardio, probably a poor choice for fighters.
The part about juiced guys being humbled by much smaller dudes is naive, there´s a difference between a bodybuilder stepping into a grappling gym and juiced competitive grapplers, a look at heavyweight division in adcc or Who´s number One is a good place to start. No doping test and top grapplers in the world obviously juiced up ( lots of smaller grapplers also juice ime). Pride days and before Usada UFC also gave strong hints on how aas helped fighters.
I see almost everyday nimble athletes submitting much bigger guys, especially when heel hooks are used, but it´s easy to notice extra weight and physical strength help balancing quite a bit of technical disadvantage

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