Test/deca/dbol classic cycle bulk.

Nah the watch is dead on pretty much with the cuffs I test side by side daily. I know every doctor wants you to buy a $35 to $50 cuff but today's tech a $50 watch does everything those cuffs do and more. My dad had a machine sent to him from the VA and sent me his old one which is still good but doesn't sync to the doctor office lol

I'm really interested in what watch you're using?
 
I'm really interested in what watch you're using?
A stupid cheap one from Amazon. I'll find the link. But it was like $49 or $59. I was having a hard time finding a bpm with a cuff over 16.5in and they all were around $50 or more. And since I also wanted to monitor heart rare continually I just figured I'd spend about the same on a device that does more lol.
I think the watches are just inaccurate on people who wear it high or have more fat around the wrist area that obscure veins. But I'm naturally vaso AF so not an issue.

 
Obv I'm not saying to do this yet - But if you are into bulking and increasing your lifting numbers just wait until you do your first Test / Tren & Dbol cycle and watch yourself piss those current lifting stats into the ground LMFAO ;-)
 
Obv I'm not saying to do this yet - But if you are into bulking and increasing your lifting numbers just wait until you do your first Test / Tren & Dbol cycle and watch yourself piss those current lifting stats into the ground LMFAO ;-)
Oh I'm sure. Tbh I don't consider myself strong at all. I know compared to alot of people I'm not. But once I get the size I want and have the mass to maintain I don't nec need to push too much. Not sure I ever will or want to bench over 500 or squat 600. As much as I like being strong I don't feel the need to be in that caliber of lifting or stress on my body more than I'm doing as is. But once I get there we will see.
I'm thinking maybe next cycle a primo or superdrol cycle and maybe anavar.
 
I wasn't being derogatory about your lifting numbers, I'm just have a laugh in terms once you get on that cycle you'll love it. Its like turning into superman overnight and changing in the mirror every single day. Thats when you begin to realise how these monsters achieve what they have, then when you consider all the other additions some guys put on top of that lot such as HGH and Slin you begin to wonder just how much housekeeping money you really need to give the wife each month that could be going on much more enjoyable things LMFAO!!!
 
Oh I'm sure. Tbh I don't consider myself strong at all. I know compared to alot of people I'm not. But once I get the size I want and have the mass to maintain I don't nec need to push too much. Not sure I ever will or want to bench over 500 or squat 600. As much as I like being strong I don't feel the need to be in that caliber of lifting or stress on my body more than I'm doing as is. But once I get there we will see.
I'm thinking maybe next cycle a primo or superdrol cycle and maybe anavar.
I do understand where you are coming from about putting unhealthy stresses through the body though - When I use to be able to press 440lb's for 2 at 185lb's BW it would literally feel like my eyes were going to pop out of my head due to Blood pressure LMAO Reminds me of an Eddie Hall story where one of his eye balls literally popped out of his skull during a training session and he pushed it back into the socket himself!!! lol
 
I do understand where you are coming from about putting unhealthy stresses through the body though - When I use to be able to press 440lb's for 2 at 185lb's BW it would literally feel like my eyes were going to pop out of my head due to Blood pressure LMAO Reminds me of an Eddie Hall story where one of his eye balls literally popped out of his skull during a training session and he pushed it back into the socket himself!!! lol
Yup I mentioned this in another thread about how we often have "perverted " ideals compared to the average population. To them 135lbs on bench feels like 350 to 450 to us. Cns strength and development is the most important. I push the idea of mind over matter to people because it's true. Your muscle adapt because your cns forces it. You can't do it the other way around it just isn't how we work. Sure you can "spot" improve a muscle a bit but to be able to handle the overall load all your muscles can handle your cns needs to be stronger.
 
A stupid cheap one from Amazon. I'll find the link. But it was like $49 or $59. I was having a hard time finding a bpm with a cuff over 16.5in and they all were around $50 or more. And since I also wanted to monitor heart rare continually I just figured I'd spend about the same on a device that does more lol.
I think the watches are just inaccurate on people who wear it high or have more fat around the wrist area that obscure veins. But I'm naturally vaso AF so not an issue.


It's not even bad looking. Interesting. That looks a lot like Amazfit T-rex.

And you've tested this, side by side, with a proper bp monitor?
 
It's not even bad looking. Interesting. That looks a lot like Amazfit T-rex.

And you've tested this, side by side, with a proper bp monitor?
Yeah I'll find the monitor too but it was one my dad got for him and my mom the doctors recommend after a medical emergency. It's getting too tight now though hence the need for a bigger cuff.
 
Taking results with grain of salt cause my arm is technically too big for the machine
 

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Well, that's a big difference. But you need to test it of a proper wrist blood pressure monitor. These watches are wildly inaccurate, the blood pressure feature is a gimmick at this point.

Just do your self a favor and buy a proper wrist mounted bp monitor. They can be had for like 20$ ... Then get some telmisartan, losartan, ...if your bp is elevated ...
 

Nah I trust it because the sys vs dias results. The fact the dias is close to my watch but the other is high is very likely the cuff. You will get much higher pressure reading on the pump out than the pump in. Also my home monitor is supposed to be up to 16.5in vs 15 and reads much closer to my watch. Maybe I'll grab a cheap hand pump tester if I can find a cuff that is proper fitted. My arm left arm is slightly smaller and measures right above 16in my right is already at 16.5 so even then I def need a bigger cuff to be accurate. And again if I'm at worse rn stage 1 hypo it's not any worse than my baseline lol.

Lastly for some reason I always get some anxiety using those machines when they trap my arm. Even the doctor likes to take my pressure 3x because of that and get an average. The watch is kinda just tap and forget it so no stress. I should have timed them the same time or done a second run to see. But I ran the watch right before then the arm band.
 
We basically have the same stats on paper and you look (from what I can see) much better.


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Looking forward to following along! I’m currently leaning down on TRT and gonna blast when I get lean enough.
 
Nah the watch is dead on pretty much with the cuffs I test side by side daily. I know every doctor wants you to buy a $35 to $50 cuff but today's tech a $50 watch does everything those cuffs do and more. My dad had a machine sent to him from the VA and sent me his old one which is still good but doesn't sync to the doctor office lol
To think a watch BP measurement is accurate, let alone a 50 dollar one at that, is ridiculous. As wrist cuffs that are 30 dollars which are advised against health professionals that you think a watch is going to read your BP properly.

Your arm is 16.5 inches and you cant use a regular BP cuff? come on dude...

You seem to be in hardcore denial based off of your responses. and thinking a "watch cuff" if it even inflates is better. Wrist cuffs have been around for such a long time and are still inaccurate.

concerned about family history of hypertension but the AAS you are using and you are using a crappy way to measure BP....

I guess you cant have hypertension if hypertensive numbers cannot be captured.

I am sure @hometeam would have a an opinion
 
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Well, that's a big difference. But you need to test it of a proper wrist blood pressure monitor. These watches are wildly inaccurate, the blood pressure feature is a gimmick at this point.

Just do your self a favor and buy a proper wrist mounted bp monitor. They can be had for like 20$ ... Then get some telmisartan, losartan, ...if your bp is elevated ...

We basically have the same stats on paper and you look (from what I can see) much better.


Cries in ugly



Looking forward to following along! I’m currently leaning down on TRT and gonna blast when I get lean enough.
Yo man. Do not feel bad. I have mad dismorphia for one. Until I added my profile pic I felt like every other person here was gods(not taking anything from anyone) but I do appreciate what I have worked for and see it more now. I only got on gear recently like less than a year. And from my perspective gear is not the top of the mountain for everyone. Build your base first and decide. I have pics of me from a year or so ago and I feel I look better naturally tbh. But my goals involve more than just the mirror always so I do what I do. I can tell you with 100% honesty I have still only had my best recomp naturally. And I almost garuntee no one would believe I did it naturally. I went from 175lbs skinny fat but I had trained for years before and got to around 185 max bloated but strong af.
But I trained and dirty bulked to 205 and then cut back down to 190 within the span of 3 months total. I had alot of shit go down in my life and had to refocus and I took it out on myself by training harder than I ever had before in ways that didn't just mean hurting after.
If you really want my ideas feel free to dm/pm whatever me and I will help you get what you want.
 
To think a watch BP measurement is accurate, let alone a 50 dollar one at that, is ridiculous. As wrist cuffs that are 30 dollars which are advised against health professionals that you think a watch is going to read your BP properly.

Your arm is 16.5 inches and you cant use a regular BP cuff? come on dude...

You seem to be in hardcore denial based off of your responses. and thinking a "watch cuff" if it even inflates is better. Wrist cuffs have been around for such a long time and are still inaccurate.

concerned about family history of hypertension but the AAS you are using and you are using a crappy way to measure BP....

I guess you cant have hypertension if hypertensive numbers cannot be captured.

I am sure @hometeam would have a laugh at this..
I didn't buy the $30 wrist monitors because I read the same. But I figured why not try the watch. My dad sent the bp monitor he had and I tested them together. Again his was rated to 16.5in max and fit my arm fine just may not work long cause I'm at 16.5 in my right now I measure left. He got his replaced by the VA and his nearly matches his watch which is older than mine. The one he had nearly matches my watch.
Only thing off is walmarts 15in limit lol.
I'll get it tested but again I think people are more concerned about who I buy my watch from than anything else lol.
Do i expect it to be 100% no 90% maybe I expect it to give me patterns which it does. And if I'm within a decent range I don't see the need to worry. Also I'm only 2 weeks in on my second cycle. If i blow up internally its gonna be from alot other stuff lol.
 
I didn't buy the $30 wrist monitors because I read the same. But I figured why not try the watch. My dad sent the bp monitor he had and I tested them together. Again his was rated to 16.5in max and fit my arm fine just may not work long cause I'm at 16.5 in my right now I measure left. He got his replaced by the VA and his nearly matches his watch which is older than mine. The one he had nearly matches my watch.
Only thing off is walmarts 15in limit lol.
I'll get it tested but again I think people are more concerned about who I buy my watch from than anything else lol.
Do i expect it to be 100% no 90% maybe I expect it to give me patterns which it does. And if I'm within a decent range I don't see the need to worry. Also I'm only 2 weeks in on my second cycle. If i blow up internally its gonna be from alot other stuff lol.
That's fine man. But if you are truly concerned about a history of hypertension go purchase an omron from Amazon. It seems like that is one of your concerns of running a cycle.

I just don't want you to be fooled if you are trying to be mindful of your blood pressure.

Even if your BP is truly 145 or 150. I'm sure it won't be detrimental for one cycle but if it's a regular thing I would be concerned
 
To think a watch BP measurement is accurate, let alone a 50 dollar one at that, is ridiculous. As wrist cuffs that are 30 dollars which are advised against health professionals that you think a watch is going to read your BP properly.

Your arm is 16.5 inches and you cant use a regular BP cuff? come on dude...

You seem to be in hardcore denial based off of your responses. and thinking a "watch cuff" if it even inflates is better. Wrist cuffs have been around for such a long time and are still inaccurate.

concerned about family history of hypertension but the AAS you are using and you are using a crappy way to measure BP....

I guess you cant have hypertension if hypertensive numbers cannot be captured.

I am sure @hometeam would have a an opinion
I dunno. At the hospital: in the ER, floors, ICU, etc nobody takes blood pressure manually anymore. It's kinda gotten to the point where we don't trust the nurses, and especially the aids (who do the majority of it), to do it anymore.

But we've got good machines we feel we can trust, and we trust it even when the person is too overweight to put the cuff on the upper arm so we put it on the forearm instead. Now if something seems off then of course you'll recheck manually and carefully. But I've seen many ICU patients in a chemical coma on life support with vasopressors titrated to bp taken every few minutes with a machine and cuff placed on the forearm just above the wrist although that's technically not the correct place to put it. And the reading is accurate.

Then I go to Walmart and they have an expensive machine at their bp kiosk too and their readings are all over the place. I get my bp taken manually by phlebotomists at the Red Cross blood drives and that's rarely accurate too.

So it's gotten to the point where outside of a high quality machine in a hospital I'm working at I can't trust the bp reading anymore. And with one of those good machines I'd trust a forearm reading, but not a cheap one. Not a $30 toy.
 
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