Test E 600mg/wk 1st Cycle

Oh shit. Good one bro! No way you are a d-bag since your comebacks are always related to me being a fag. My mistake. Please teach me more. What type of periodization are you using? Muscle and fitness workouts? Haha. Have a good day brosef
You'd be a lot cooler if you'd get OP's dick out of your mouth.
 
AIght bros - ya boy's been good and still making gains.

Week 8
- Got sick as a dog and had to take a couple days off. HCG 450iu 2x wk, Adex 1mg EOD. Hit chest/tris/abs (monday), chest (wednesday), and shoulders (friday). Weight ~240.

Week 9 - HCG 450iu 2x/wk Adex 1mg EOD lowered to .5 EOD. Benched 225x16 easily, 275x7 easily. Went up to 315x3 and strained my pec hard about halfway up on the last rep, still finished it but fuck. Not sure what is it, but there's a tendon near the front of my armpit that got strained as fuck. Didn't swell or anything but I had to stop hitting chest. Ended up doing legs (sunday), back and shoulders (tuesday), bis/tris (wednesday), legs (thursday). Weight 243lbs.

I'm currently in the middle of week 10...

Things I've noticed/learned (I've bolded the conclusions):
  • 1mg Adex EOD was too much. I've lowered to .5mg EOD. I've still had a slight nipple sensitivity the duration of the cycle. Nothing major, no lumps growing, and the pain isn't bad. I've gotta push really hard but I can feel a little tinge of sensitivity. This got me paranoid earlier and I think I overdid it with the Adex. I've noticed my weight went up within days of lowering the Adex. Also I was getting tired as fuck the past few weeks - after lowering the Adex, I'm no longer fatigued/tired like I was. My weight also stagnated at the higher dose. I feel pretty great now. Overall .5mg Adex EOD
  • Increasing the cals to 4000, was a good move. Much more gains now. Diet is a huge key.
  • HCG 450iu 2x/wk seems to keep my balls big and working and isn't giving me any Estrogen sides. I think originally 300iu EOD was a little too much, potentially.
Also, I'll be extending this cycle to 15 weeks, still at 600mg/wk. I'm up to ~243, which is a 20lb gain from day 1. I'm aiming for 250 by the end. Arms are 18", which is up a bit over .75" from day 1.

I'm getting bloods taken Friday. I'm upload pictures, and my lifting/dose calendar for the month. And of course the blood results when I get them.
 
@MoneyShot good to hear you're getting some results. When you post up your bloods will you tag me in it?? Very curious to see where they are. Im in week 5 right now and ill probably get bloods next week just to see where Im at.
 
Mid Cycle Bloods - Test is 2633.9, Estriodol is 31.3.

Thoughts?

This is at 600mg/wk. Bloods taken week 10 of a 15 week cycle. Adex @ .5mg EOD. HCG 450iu on injection days. Bloods taken Friday around noon, last injection was Wednesday afternoon.

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@cdusgk91
 
@MoneyShot thank you for this. I think your test levels would be around 3000 on the higher end. I know the 10x rule can vary depending on the person. What days do you pin? Wednesday and Sunday?
 
@MoneyShot and how have you been feeling overall these last couple weeks?
@cdusgk91
Good man, lowering the Adex from 1mg EOD to .5mg EOD was a godsend. And my estrogen turned out to be spot on. I think I could lower the adex a bit more honestly. But hey, it's a learning process and this is my first one. Blood pressure is a bit high but nothing crazy. I'll probably start adding cardio once/twice a week.

Arms are up just under 1". Weight up ~20-25 lbs. Bf% up 2-4%. Strength is up stupid numbers. Bummed I strained my chest though. Good overall man, definitely some things to perfect in the future but I can't complain too much. I'll be adding in Superdrol here in the next couple weeks and running it up until PCT starts.

I think I'm going to do this again in the spring after my levels stabilize. Same thing, just cutting.


@MoneyShot thank you for this. I think your test levels would be around 3000 on the higher end. I know the 10x rule can vary depending on the person. What days do you pin? Wednesday and Sunday?

Sunday morning and Wednesday evening. Same with HCG. Adex .5mg EOD. I have heard that same rule, I gotta read up on them again and assess where I'm at
 
Sorry, I don't want to hate on you bro. I'm just curious. You're okay with gaining fat on cycle? I find it impossible to gain fat on Test and orals and this is my first cycle too... Matter of fact Dbol made me really lean out. I barely aromatize and when I do feel it, it's only temporary. I will say your lifting numbers are way better than mine, I only recently started hitting heavy numbers and I'm at the end of my 13th week of my first 16th week cycle. So kudos to that, but I'm a lot bigger, leaner than when I started. I'm just curious too about why your planning on running Superdrol towards the back of a cycle? And also why haven't you posted pics yet? I'm not hating on you, just certain stuff doesn't add up?
 
Sorry, I don't want to hate on you bro. I'm just curious. You're okay with gaining fat on cycle? I find it impossible to gain fat on Test and orals and this is my first cycle too... Matter of fact Dbol made me really lean out. I barely aromatize and when I do feel it, it's only temporary. I will say your lifting numbers are way better than mine, I only recently started hitting heavy numbers and I'm at the end of my 13th week of my first 16th week cycle. So kudos to that, but I'm a lot bigger, leaner than when I started. I'm just curious too about why your planning on running Superdrol towards the back of a cycle? And also why haven't you posted pics yet? I'm not hating on you, just certain stuff doesn't add up?

No problem man...

I'm ok with gaining some fat on cycle - my thinking is you essentially have to gain some level of fat to ensure you're gaining all the muscle you can. If you gain absolutely no fat, you can probably eat more and gain more (just my thinking).

I'm running Superdrol towards the end, just because I have never ran test before (this is my first cycle). I wanted to get the pinning/dosing down before adding in too many compounds and getting overwhelmed.

I've posted pics, looks like just once, my bad, as soon as they get to my gmail I'll crop and upload (along with pre cycle and mid cycle bloods). That being said, I was aiming towards more of a summary at the end where I could make good comparisons. I've just been busy during the week and gone on the weekends. I have pictures on my phone along with the time they were taken...

What's not adding up?
 
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Alright...so I went to your profile to check out your cycle

I'm running Var and Test... Complete opposite. I'm losing body fat, leaning out and still getting a massive pump and strength. I can't consume enough calories. I think you let our estrogen run a little too high.... I'm currently running near a gram of test and I got no sides except for weight loss... And I got a really good source so I know it's not bunk... I just don't aromatize much or I Do I don't physically show it. What sucks is I fuck around with my adex too much . Next 3-4 week I'll bring my adex down to .25mg eod and see where that gets me.

And you said you ran Dbol.

That should explain a lot of the differences we are seeing in our cycles...
 
Alright - here are pics - date is 9/04/16. Weight was ~240 arms ~17.75"
 

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Another pic - 9/26/16. Weight is approx ~243. Arms are probably a bit closer to 18.

I'll try to get some more this weekend. All pics are cold flexed in the morning...
 

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I'm going to start this sunday (beginning of week 13) and run it right up til PCT

So - week 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and maybe half a week (pct will be 2-3 weeks after last injection). Looking at 20mg/day. half life is super short, like 8-9 hrs if I remember right

@cdusgk91

You're going to continue the test E alongside the superdrol or run the SD alone as the test E clears out of your system? Sorry for 20 Q's I just like to know how different approaches work on different people.
 
You're going to continue the test E alongside the superdrol or run the SD alone as the test E clears out of your system? Sorry for 20 Q's I just like to know how different approaches work on different people.

@cdusgk91 Ah dude, it's all good. Yea I'm going to run them at the same time for a couple weeks, let the test e clear out (11 days half life iirc), then continue the SD up until PCT (8-9 hour half life)

I think the logic is all there haha. I'll be out of town this weekend, but I'll finalize it up Sunday and I'm thinking that's what I'm going to go with. People say they stall out around the 10-11 week mark on test e (I haven't experienced that, but the SD should help, if that is the case). Goal is to end around 250lbs...maintain until blood levels stabilize post cycle - then run another one and cut in the late winter/early spring
 
Ahaha that's right!!! @MoneyShot .... Ive been considering it but I really need to keep myself in check. I have some anger issues as it is lmao... Ill go with a short ester and see how it affects my attitude
 
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