Test-Mast Ratio

[kosp]

Hello, let´s try again.

I am gonna pin Test Cyp and Mast E for 12 weeks straight.

My idea is simple, 2ml x 2 weekly. 1ml of test cyp and 1ml of Mast E, which is 500-400 respectively. Likely some oxa in the end for getting some nasty veins, but those are just candies.

Experiences with these two compounds together? How do they work the best? Maybe low test higher mast? I will be eating on deficit for cutting.

 

[Oldschool]

Hello, let´s try again.

I am gonna pin Test Cyp and Mast E for 12 weeks straight.

My idea is simple, 2ml x 2 weekly. 1ml of test cyp and 1ml of Mast E, which is 500-400 respectively. Likely some oxa in the end for getting some nasty veins, but those are just candies.

Experiences with these two compounds together? How do they work the best? Maybe low test higher mast? I will be eating on deficit for cutting.

I'm almost 3 weeks in on the exact cycle except I'm also running 2 ius gh. Wish I could help in regards to what you are asking but Im in for anyone's input though. Feeling really nice so far.

 

[kosp]

I'm almost 3 weeks in on the exact cycle except I'm also running 2 ius gh. Wish I could help in regards to what you are asking but Im in for anyone's input though. Feeling really nice so far.

Yeah? 2 weeks on long esters and already feeling? That's good right?

 

[Oldschool]

Yeah? 2 weeks on long esters and already feeling? That's good right?

Actually today is 3 weeks but yes I seem to feel my gear in a couple weeks. Could be in my head but who cares? I will take it. I quit my trt dose for a good while just for shits and grins before this so that could be a factor also. I was going to run deca with it but decided not too.

 

[Den84]

Hello, let´s try again.

I am gonna pin Test Cyp and Mast E for 12 weeks straight.

My idea is simple, 2ml x 2 weekly. 1ml of test cyp and 1ml of Mast E, which is 500-400 respectively. Likely some oxa in the end for getting some nasty veins, but those are just candies.

Experiences with these two compounds together? How do they work the best? Maybe low test higher mast? I will be eating on deficit for cutting.

I had a lot of experience with stack test/mast. Always I added to this two molecules also oxa, but this does not affect the test / mast ratio.

When you planning test/mast cycle , first of all you must keep into consideration that masteron is a E2 killer, the use of AI during the masteron should not be necessary. if you don’t aromitize a lot, is better to start with a dosage test mast 2/1 (example 500 test, 250/300 mast) and after 4/5 week is better to do a bloodwork to check E2. And then you can adjust the ratio.
When a user have a strong aromatization cold be necessary a ratio 1/1 or more test than mast. So it is very subjective, no one can recommend a precise dosage to you, it is you who must find it, trying and doing bloodwork.

Regarding me, my great ratio it is: 500 test c/ 300 mast E.

Good luck for your next cycle.

 

[Oldschool]

I had a lot of experience with stack test/mast. Always I added to this two molecules also oxa, but this does not affect the test / mast ratio.

When you planning test/mast cycle , first of all you must keep into consideration that masteron is a E2 killer, the use of AI during the masteron should not be necessary. if you don’t aromitize a lot, is better to start with a dosage test mast 2/1 (example 500 test, 250/300 mast) and after 4/5 week is better to do a bloodwork to check E2. And then you can adjust the ratio.
When a user have a strong aromatization cold be necessary a ratio 1/1 or more test than mast. So it is very subjective, no one can recommend a precise dosage to you, it is you who must find it, trying and doing bloodwork.

Regarding me, my great ratio it is: 500 test c/ 300 mast E.

Good luck for your next cycle.

Thanks Den! Good stuff. I have run a test mast and npp cycle before but deca/npp always gets to me at some point and ruins my run. Really looking forward to just the test and mast. I usually have to run some adex on just 500 test but haven't had too with the mast this round. No bloodwork to prove this but I know when my estrogen gets too high. Thanks again.

 

[kosp]

I had a lot of experience with stack test/mast. Always I added to this two molecules also oxa, but this does not affect the test / mast ratio.

When you planning test/mast cycle , first of all you must keep into consideration that masteron is a E2 killer, the use of AI during the masteron should not be necessary. if you don’t aromitize a lot, is better to start with a dosage test mast 2/1 (example 500 test, 250/300 mast) and after 4/5 week is better to do a bloodwork to check E2. And then you can adjust the ratio.
When a user have a strong aromatization cold be necessary a ratio 1/1 or more test than mast. So it is very subjective, no one can recommend a precise dosage to you, it is you who must find it, trying and doing bloodwork.

Regarding me, my great ratio it is: 500 test c/ 300 mast E.

Good luck for your next cycle.

Thanks man great post.

I always felt the aromatization from my test cycles (just test and candy orals). I blew up my weight massively at 500mg even the first weeks. No gyno though. Never AI. Also tried 50mg ED Proviron with it for a while, libido then wasn't at its best but that's highly mental, last weeks using HCG (so it would be Test+HCG) libido was crazy high.

Anyway, I think that to say Masteron is a E2 killer is kinda radical, many users report great feeling and high libido from it (symptoms of nice E2). As far as I know, it is even predominantly famous for such reasons.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Thanks man great post.

I always felt the aromatization from my test cycles (just test and candy orals). I blew up my weight massively at 500mg even the first weeks. No gyno though. Never AI. Also tried 50mg ED Proviron with it for a while, libido then wasn't at its best but that's highly mental, last weeks using HCG (so it would be Test+HCG) libido was crazy high.

Anyway, I think that to say Masteron is a E2 killer is kinda radical, many users report great feeling and high libido from it (symptoms of nice E2). As far as I know, it is even predominantly famous for such reasons.

i don't know about being an "E2 killer" as mentioned earlier, but it does appear to have some lowering effect on estrogen.

Be mindful of that and keep the AI on standby until there's a legitimate reason to take it.

Beyond that, it should be a good cycle if all of your ducks are in a row.

 

[GdaddyGains]

Masteron the more the better. It is very weak. At least 600 mg of Mast E per week.

 

[kosp]

Masteron the more the better. It is very weak. At least 600 mg of Mast E per week.

No man, everyone is biased to its own experience, the more is not better. It's not my goal.

I want it to accelerate fat loss, keep (maybe gain) muscle mass, get harder and train harder.

 

[kosp]

i don't know about being an "E2 killer" as mentioned earlier, but it does appear to have some lowering effect on estrogen.

Be mindful of that and keep the AI on standby until there's a legitimate reason to take it.

Beyond that, it should be a good cycle if all of your ducks are in a row.

Yeah I was thinking likely. You know about E2

 

[JP1979]

Masteron the more the better. It is very weak. At least 600 mg of Mast E per week.

I agree with this.

I ran 250/500 test/mast ratio and it was great. I netted 8lbs lean in 12 weeks and kept all of it. Felt like a beast. Love the way it made me feel, and hornier than fuck.

 

[Brotato]

i normally run it in a 1:1 to test, with a little less npp so it looks something like.
500 test
500 mast
400 npp

 

[kakashi477]

Hello, let´s try again.

I am gonna pin Test Cyp and Mast E for 12 weeks straight.

My idea is simple, 2ml x 2 weekly. 1ml of test cyp and 1ml of Mast E, which is 500-400 respectively. Likely some oxa in the end for getting some nasty veins, but those are just candies.

Experiences with these two compounds together? How do they work the best? Maybe low test higher mast? I will be eating on deficit for cutting.

For me 400mast e was Always enough,id ,if your diet and training and perfect and bf is low enough you will look vascular and hard...

 

[kosp]

For me 400mast e was Always enough,id ,if your diet and training and perfect and bf is low enough you will look vascular and hard...

I don't think my bf is low enough but that's the purpose of this cycle, would it be still good? I've read it is an excellent fat loss supporting steroid.

 

[kosp]

I agree with this.

I ran 250/500 test/mast ratio and it was great. I netted 8lbs lean in 12 weeks and kept all of it. Felt like a beast. Love the way it made me feel, and hornier than fuck.

See, no E2 killed here.

 

[kakashi477]

Yeah mast is great for fat loss...i would also add var for that purpose...30-50mg will do the job.

When u are more advanced test e,tren e and mast e with var is best recomp cycle for me,all moderate dosages nothing crazy and u look insane at the end

 

[Sven_Northman]

I don't think my bf is low enough but that's the purpose of this cycle, would it be still good? I've read it is an excellent fat loss supporting steroid.

Not sure where you read that it supports fat loss. What it does do is reduce water retention as it doesn't aromatize. It works best on someone that already has low bodyfat and known for giving off a polished granite look to muscles via less water retention. Like a pro entering his cutting phase before a show.

However, for increase in appetite, overall feeling of well being, and increased libido its great. Works very well with Tren. I've ran high/low doses of Mast in all my cycles depending on my goals and love the stuff. Especially for the increase in appetite it gives me.

If its fat loss you're after I'd do HIIT and go into a calorie deficit the first 4-6 weeks of your cycle. Then with lower bodyfat the Mast will really shine. Good luck with your cycle!

 

[kosp]

Not sure where you read that it supports fat loss. What it does do is reduce water retention as it doesn't aromatize. It works best on someone that already has low bodyfat and known for giving off a polished granite look to muscles via less water retention. Like a pro entering his cutting phase before a show.

However, for increase in appetite, overall feeling of well being, and increased libido its great. Works very well with Tren. I've ran high/low doses of Mast in all my cycles depending on my goals and love the stuff. Especially for the increase in appetite it gives me.

If its fat loss you're after I'd do HIIT and go into a calorie deficit the first 4-6 weeks of your cycle. Then with lower bodyfat the Mast will really shine. Good luck with your cycle!

Thanks man.

High appetite wouldn't be nice for me on deficit though.

Why wait those 4-6 weeks when it is long ester and will take about that time in build up? I pin all the way and once I dropped the fat it is ready for action, something will be doing in the meantime right?

 

[legendary]

I like mast higher than test. Keep a eye on PSA while using mast.