Test & primo

[jpmining85]

First cycle using primo thinking of starting 400 test 200 primo and work my way up to 800 test 500 primo? For 20 weeks then Back down to 250 test cruise

 

[egruberman]

What's your e2? Do you have any experience with primo? For some, it'll crash your estrogen. For others it's great and precludes the need for an AI. 2:1 is a good start. I ran 1:1 when I was carrying a great deal more fat. These days 2:1 works well.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

I keep primo 50% of test, that's counter intuitive for some, perfect for me. Like @egruberman said it crashes some guys e2

So 400mg test, 200mg primo.

Better to tapper up then be on a train you no longer want to be on. Just my 2 cents

 

[jpmining85]

I keep primo 50% of test, that's counter intuitive for some, perfect for me. Like @egruberman said it crashes some guys e2

So 400mg test, 200mg primo.

Better to tapper up then be on a train you no longer want to be on. Just my 2 cents

Solid advice!

 

[jpmining85]

What's your e2? Do you have any experience with primo? For some, it'll crash your estrogen. For others it's great and precludes the need for an AI. 2:1 is a good start. I ran 1:1 when I was carrying a great deal more fat. These days 2:1 works well.

Never used primo before my e2 is at 30 on 300 test

 

[LightWeight89]

Never used primo before my e2 is at 30 on 300 test

Then you might not need primo tell you hit 500 test cause ur e2 is nice on 300. I would do 400 test check e2 after 3-4 weeks if high add it in 2.1 or 1.1 depending on how much it went up. To low of estrogen isn't a fun time. And just retest every 3-4 after a dosage change to see what works for you

 

[Big_paul]

First cycle using primo thinking of starting 400 test 200 primo and work my way up to 800 test 500 primo? For 20 weeks then Back down to 250 test cruise

Start and finish with 400 primo and 100 test. I love primo but I'm a penny pincher, so I don't use it much.

Primo will give you quality gains without the sides you get with test. So don't fuck things up by running a lot of test. You defeat the purpose of using primo.

This is your first cycle. You will feel like superman I promise. No need to use any thing more.

 

[LightWeight89]

Start and finish with 400 primo and 100 test. I love primo but I'm a penny pincher, so I don't use it much.

Primo will give you quality gains without the sides you get with test. So don't fuck things up by running a lot of test. You defeat the purpose of using primo.

This is your first cycle. You will feel like superman I promise. No need to use any thing more.

How do you keep your e2 at a good lvl with that much primo and low of test?

 

[Big_paul]

How do you keep your e2 at a good lvl with that much primo and low of test?

It depends on the results you expect. If you are looking to bulk up fast and raise the anabolic component without the androgenic sides, adding primo would be ideal.

If you want quality gains without a lot of water retention, I suggest the cycle I mentioned. It's a good place to start. Depending on the individual, he may need to increase test some if e2 is low.

If you want to finish your cycle and not drop a significant amount of your gains from water retention, I would keep test lower on this cycle.If you need to you can increase test. I never had to myself.

 

[Big_paul]

depends on the results you expect. If you are looking to bulk up fast and raise the anabolic component without the androgenic sides, adding primo would be ideal.

I mean adding primo to your planned cycle which in this case would be mostly test not Primobolan.

 

[LightWeight89]

It depends on the results you expect. If you are looking to bulk up fast and raise the anabolic component without the androgenic sides, adding primo would be ideal.

If you want quality gains without a lot of water retention, I suggest the cycle I mentioned. It's a good place to start. Depending on the individual, he may need to increase test some if e2 is low.

If you want to finish your cycle and not drop a significant amount of your gains from water retention, I would keep test lower on this cycle.If you need to you can increase test. I never had to myself.

So run as much primo as you can and use the test to keep you e2 in range? I might give that a go just stocked up on primo. I feel best when my e2 is 40-55 range so an ai make it hard to keep it in that range and to much test anything over 600 makes my bp hard to control even with meds and of course diet and cardio daily sadly. So i might give it a try.

 

[egruberman]

So run as much primo as you can and use the test to keep you e2 in range?

For most relatively lean folks that’s going to be…. 2:1. True for me from 300 test to 2500 test.

Discounted labs has the cheapest ultra sensitive e2 test I’ve found. It’s a Quest panel and $35.

 

[Big_paul]

So run as much primo as you can and use the test to keep you e2 in range? I might give that a go just stocked up on primo. I feel best when my e2 is 40-55 range so an ai make it hard to keep it in that range and to much test anything over 600 makes my bp hard to control even with meds and of course diet and cardio daily sadly. So i might give it a try.

No. Run a sensible cycle for a first cycle.

Primobolan works well to build lean body mass that will not evaporate when when you drop the water weight.

Test is necessary in any cycle to maintain a healthy level of e2 .

 

[egruberman]

No. Run a sensible cycle for a first cycle.

OP wrote, "first cycle using primo". My presumption was that he had prior experience with other cycles.

 

[jpmining85]

OP wrote, "first cycle using primo". My presumption was that he had prior experience with other cycles.

I have ran other cycles test, deca, mast

 

[HeatherSwanson]

I have ran other cycles test, deca, mast

Ease into the primo... Less can be more if you're lucky.