Test prop for trt?

[Mick]

Just thinking out loud here because I really have no idea why some would have problems with the Cypionate ester and others do not but...

There is a structural difference in the Cypionate ester compared to Enanthate and Propionate. Cypionate contains an aromatic ring where Enanthate and Propionate are straight chain.

I suppose it is possible that some people cannot efficiently cleave the Cypionate ester due to the aromatic ring and this might have some downstream impact. Just a thought.

Is there any more info on this. Regarding the extra carbon atom. The more I think about it the more I circle back to this. When I look at the two structures there is def an extra "carbon atom" when it comes to test cyp. I think it's called a carbon atom lmao. Hopefully i don't get butchered for getting that wrong. Def alot of really smart ppl on this forum. I'm def average on iq scale lmao.

 

[Laxman3221]

I switched to prop EOD and felt Mitch better than when on cyp. Sex got better too.

 

[Mick]

I switched to prop EOD and felt Mitch better than when on cyp. Sex got better too.

How much eod? 100 eod did me really well at one point too. But my ocd gets the better of me and I feel like I have to use prop Ed lmao. Plus 100 is eod is a cycle so of course I felt good lol

 

[Laxman3221]

How much eod? 100 eod did me really well at one point too. But my ocd gets the better of me and I feel like I have to use prop Ed lmao. Plus 100 is eod is a cycle so of course I felt good lol

50 EOD

 

[sinistral]

Is there any more info on this. Regarding the extra carbon atom. The more I think about it the more I circle back to this. When I look at the two structures there is def an extra "carbon atom" when it comes to test cyp. I think it's called a carbon atom lmao. Hopefully i don't get butchered for getting that wrong. Def alot of really smart ppl on this forum. I'm def average on iq scale lmao.

I don't know much other than there's a difference. I saw a few months back that Kurt Havens is going to do a study on different esters but I think it was more geared toward efficacy.

 

[sinistral]

And at this point I will go back to natural before using test cyp ever again. Shit had me fucked up in the head.

Can you elaborate more on your experiences/difficulties with Cyp?

 

[Mick]

Can you elaborate more on your experiences/difficulties with Cyp?

Sure. So to start i never used cyp. Always Test e. That was the only ester I could get almost 14 years ago. So I have been using shit forever. Blast and cruise. Maybe two or three periods completely off. Each lasting 6 months. About 7 or 8 years ago I went to a dr for trt. This is my intro to cyp. At first I felt great. Started at 1cc a week. Without his consent I slowly started blasting it all the way up to 700 mg per week. .5cc a day. Then out of nowhere I started like not being able to regulate myself. Moods, temperature, depression rolled in. Bad dreams, night sweets, skin issues, So I just quit it all. After another about 6 month period of time I went back on ugl shit. Test e and primo e, gh in there, npp, all kinds of shit with no real issues. I would add the cyp back in as a base sometimes, because i had pharm stashed. Everytime I would add it back in everything would go to hell. But I always blamed it on another compound. Or estro being to high or to low. Until finally I went back down to trt again and started using prop. Then I switched it milligram for milligram for cyp and it happened again. I thought it was the ugl again. So I switched to pharm and same thing. Back to prop and feeling normal now again. The feeling is like severe anxiety of everything. Lack of decision making. No sex drive. Everything overwhelms me. Can't manage stress. Feel burnt out. Wake up nervous. I lose weight and muscle. Almost like my body doesn't even use the test. Feels like what I would imagine ptsd to feel like. I want to quit work. I have a similar problem with orals. Like I can't take anavar or d bol without extreme looming death/anxiety. When on prop or test e I feel way better. My body pumps back up, I look better. Feel better. Almost like superman. Same mg. I dose the same. ED. And I go by mg with slin pin regardless of compound. I don't use AIs, I have in past for a certain number, or test to estro ratio. After writing about all this on the forum and thinking. I always have felt better on prop, or test e. It is plain as day to me now, I can take the test prop high as well. Like up to 700 with no real issues. The whole thing makes no real sense to me lol. I used to be able to take a gram of tren and just get night sweats and jacked lmao. Now I think about tren and get sides lmao. I know some of it is me aging for sure. And my natural anxiety. Nothing worse then when things go bad on a long ester and you are stuck until it gets out of your system lol.

 

[sinistral]

Sure. So to start i never used cyp. Always Test e. That was the only ester I could get almost 14 years ago. So I have been using shit forever. Blast and cruise. Maybe two or three periods completely off. Each lasting 6 months. About 7 or 8 years ago I went to a dr for trt. This is my intro to cyp. At first I felt great. Started at 1cc a week. Without his consent I slowly started blasting it all the way up to 700 mg per week. .5cc a day. Then out of nowhere I started like not being able to regulate myself. Moods, temperature, depression rolled in. Bad dreams, night sweets, skin issues, So I just quit it all. After another about 6 month period of time I went back on ugl shit. Test e and primo e, gh in there, npp, all kinds of shit with no real issues. I would add the cyp back in as a base sometimes, because i had pharm stashed. Everytime I would add it back in everything would go to hell. But I always blamed it on another compound. Or estro being to high or to low. Until finally I went back down to trt again and started using prop. Then I switched it milligram for milligram for cyp and it happened again. I thought it was the ugl again. So I switched to pharm and same thing. Back to prop and feeling normal now again. The feeling is like severe anxiety of everything. Lack of decision making. No sex drive. Everything overwhelms me. Can't manage stress. Feel burnt out. Wake up nervous. I lose weight and muscle. Almost like my body doesn't even use the test. Feels like what I would imagine ptsd to feel like. I want to quit work. I have a similar problem with orals. Like I can't take anavar or d bol without extreme looming death/anxiety. When on prop or test e I feel way better. My body pumps back up, I look better. Feel better. Almost like superman. Same mg. I dose the same. ED. And I go by mg with slin pin regardless of compound. I don't use AIs, I have in past for a certain number, or test to estro ratio. After writing about all this on the forum and thinking. I always have felt better on prop, or test e. It is plain as day to me now, I can take the test prop high as well. Like up to 700 with no real issues. The whole thing makes no real sense to me lol. I used to be able to take a gram of tren and just get night sweats and jacked lmao. Now I think about tren and get sides lmao. I know some of it is me aging for sure. And my natural anxiety. Nothing worse then when things go bad on a long ester and you are stuck until it gets out of your system lol.

Damn bro that sounds horrible. Almost sounds like your test was in the tank. Ever get bloods drawn while in that condition?

 

[Mick]

Damn bro that sounds horrible. Almost sounds like your test was in the tank. Ever get bloods drawn while in that condition?

I did not. I like literally am just coming to this conclusion now. I haven't had bloods done in about 2 years as far as hormones. I had general health ones done recently. Once I get evened out again. I'm going to do bloods.