100mg/ml
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Test prop for trt
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niqTM
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And no pip?
I haven't had any pip in a long time. Using 27g insulin pin w/ 5/8in needle in v glutes and upper thighs.
Mostly it’s just the prop ester, not the needle-size
I started TRT+ with daily test prop injections. IM/shallow IM (depending on the injection site) with a 29/30g 1/2" insulin syringe. I had pip the first 1-2 weeks. After that, none to speak of. Whether a 1/2" insulin syringe is IM or SQ will depend on the injection location and an individual's body composition. Also with the narrow gauge needles, you will need to warm up the oil first. That may also then help reduce pip.
I am glad I started with daily prop. It makes it easier to dial in the right dose. I also get an enjoyable boost in the morning from the release of the faster ester. For me, however, the downside may be that I do tend to get irritable in the evening as, I suspect, test levels start to fall. I am playing around with some homemade ester blends now to see if I can still keep that morning boost while smoothing out the fall off in the evening.
I am glad I started with daily prop. It makes it easier to dial in the right dose. I also get an enjoyable boost in the morning from the release of the faster ester. For me, however, the downside may be that I do tend to get irritable in the evening as, I suspect, test levels start to fall. I am playing around with some homemade ester blends now to see if I can still keep that morning boost while smoothing out the fall off in the evening.
ganciodestro
Member
do you inject it in morning of evening?
First thing every morning.
niqTM
Member
Testosterone Phenylpropionate is a much superior ester if you want shorter esters. Might be a very large ester but last 2 days instead of 24 hours.
I brewed my prop with phenylprop and its super solid.
I brewed my prop with phenylprop and its super solid.
I've been playing around with various blends of prop and phenylprop, w/ and w/o acetate. I should give phenylprop alone an honest chance. I've only used it alone when I knew I couldn't pin for a few days.
ganciodestro
Member
I find that injecting it in the evening is the best time to give me a great feeling during the day. I’ve also tried doing it in the morning, but it feels like it gives me more of a boost in the afternoon and evening.
niqTM
Member
You get less for your money in phenylprop but the half life is what we were told Prop was a for a while.
The bad information we were fed for years was prop's half life was 36-48 hours. Now we are starting to figure out its less than 24 hours. More like 18 hours. Might be because most people (including myself) like thin oils (MCT, Miglyol812, EO) and that reduces the time to peak concentrations.
Phenylprop in MCT/Mig/EO fills that spot between 18 hours - 48 hours. My trough isn't anywhere near close to as low on phenylpropl as it was on regular prop and the blend also helps the pip.
Also, prop has the lightest ester. Phenyl prop has close, if not, to the heaviest. So you are getting around the same concentration you would of a Enanthate if you average the weights of the 2 esters out.
Not sure how many people listen to Dave Lee (if you just in it for TRT I’d check out his YT, cycles not so much). I follow his reccomendation for a 29g 1/2” needle in the delt (swapping felts each time) and it’s been amazing.
I tried daily injections Subq with 200mg/ml MCT test from a TRT clinic in the states and I always ended up getting lumps after a few weeks.
Currently doing shots 4x/ wk and feel better than daily which I did for over a year.
PS - Dave had a recent video talking about how propionate has no place for TRT. Interesting to hear how some of you prefer it.
I love TPP, wish more good sources here had it.
Rawnjohnson
New Member
No issues with sleep taking it in the evening? I tried it, and it made it hard to go to sleep, but I was transitioning from Cyp so it may have just been the extra dosage. I’m about to drop to TRT levels for my yearly appointment and I’ll try it after that.
