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You're an HGH guru, do you split the dose or do a single injection per day and if you do one, when do you do it (AM/PM)?
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You're an HGH guru, do you split the dose or do a single injection per day and if you do one, when do you do it (AM/PM)?
IGF1 is effected immediately after exo GH administration
Elevation can occur within hours
If you are a healthy individual, IGF1 can be increased quickly depending on how you administer it and the dose you use
Mands,
Was that the correct natural IGF1 results for you (apprx 80-90)
Are you doing a simple night dose?
Was just curious
Oops...nevermind....I see you posted your protocol
That's a low IGF1
Was that the correct natural IGF1 results for you (apprx 80-90)
Are you doing a simple night dose?
Was just curious
Oops...nevermind....I see you posted your protocol
That's a low IGF1
If anyone wants me to I will start a thread pertaning to gh. I will discuss why run gh, how to run gh from my personal experience.
The thread will be anecdotal experiences backed by studies and any other information deemed necessary in my opinion.
mands
I'm old dude
mands
The thread will be anecdotal experiences backed by studies and any other information deemed necessary in my opinion.
mands
Mands,
Was that the correct natural IGF1 results for you (apprx 80-90)
Are you doing a simple night dose?
Was just curious
Oops...nevermind....I see you posted your protocol
That's a low IGF1
I'm old dude
mands
You preaching to the choir brudda (40+)If anyone wants me to I will start a thread pertaning to gh. I will discuss why run gh, how to run gh from my personal experience.
The thread will be anecdotal experiences backed by studies and any other information deemed necessary in my opinion.
mands
I'm old dude
mands
I see your dosing at night with the lower IGF1
My natural IGF1 falls between 120-140 so I just do a.m. dosing SubQ and try to keep the timing the same
Kash89
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That'll be cool +1If anyone wants me to I will start a thread pertaning to gh. I will discuss why run gh, how to run gh from my personal experience.
The thread will be anecdotal experiences backed by studies and any other information deemed necessary in my opinion.
mands
I'm old dude
mands
I don't really understand the concern with interrupting one's natural pulse at night... We're not concerned about interrupting our natural testosterone levels, why do folks worry about GH levels?
I have always done a nightly dose and I have almost always done a morning dose. I should do more research however, my logic is that if I inject just an iu or two, I've likely already increased my IGF levels well beyond what they would be naturally. Is this not the goal after all?
I have always done a nightly dose and I have almost always done a morning dose. I should do more research however, my logic is that if I inject just an iu or two, I've likely already increased my IGF levels well beyond what they would be naturally. Is this not the goal after all?
How can you prove that once a day early injection didn't disrupt your natural pulse?
You just can't. What we get from studies is that hgh suppress natural production.
I agree about once a day is the simplest
You just can't. What we get from studies is that hgh suppress natural production.
I agree about once a day is the simplest
Plus is demonstrated that what suppress natural hgh is elevated IgF. So its clear that while administering hgh we shouldn't care much about fucking natural pulses. That's ridiculous
I had an IgF of 500 last time i pulled blood... oh noes I need to get my game together I could have got 550 with natural pulse!
Lol
I had an IgF of 500 last time i pulled blood... oh noes I need to get my game together I could have got 550 with natural pulse!
Lol
If you're wanting a copy n past medical study with a graph showing yeah or nah.....Then you're right.
If we are talking about raising IGF1 levels and what has worked best for me...I can tell you that one 5IU SubQ a.m. dose raised my IGF1 level similar to others using 2IUs 5x during the day (when your are releasing GH naturally)
Morning dose is what is recommended by my HRT clinic
The natural GH surpression that I mentioned was replying to the other member talking about 3ius 5x per day Vs taking one dose morning, noon, or night
If you want double blind clinical study about natural GH surpression.....I'm not that guy
If you want a link to HGH Medical Clinic discussing GH for (a)GHD or GH in bodybuilding, dosing and timing strategies (natural GH pulse) along with insulin use, managing HGH sides, etc
I'd be happy to send you the link Via PM
If you want a link to HGH Medical Clinic discussing GH for (a)GHD or GH in bodybuilding, dosing and timing strategies (natural GH pulse) along with insulin use, managing HGH sides, etc
I'd be happy to send you the link Via PM
If you want double blind clinical study about natural GH surpression.....I'm not that guy
If you want a link to HGH Medical Clinic discussing GH for (a)GHD or GH in bodybuilding, dosing and timing strategies (natural GH pulse) along with insulin use, managing HGH sides, etc
I'd be happy to send you the link Via PM
Send it
Yes Sir Mr. Professor X,
Good to read you again.
As we know IGF-1 levels are highly individualized. It seem s you are comparing your scores @ 5 iu's to another person on 2iu's 5 X p/d.
I think age is a a huge factor in Baseline IGF-1 levels as well as howour IGF-1 levels react to Exo HGH. I can site many examples or this. Today @ 52 years coming from a base of upper 90's on 5 iu's p/d i score 300 flat this would put a friend of mine on the same product same dose in the upper 500's. so a comparison to another individual is ,well a comparison to another individual.
now a A.M. dose vs. P.M. , intrestin
Peace
You will be on my new thread as I try and put together a nice gh thread explaining all that I can about gh.
Thanks for coming by.
mands
Sup Mr Buck
You're right....it's all individually based
The person using 10Ius daily (2IUs X 5) redid his blood work using 5IUs a.m.
His IGF1 results were similar (5Ius / 10IUs split)
We both used the same brand GH
But yes,
It depends a lot on your individual situation (age, other elements and meds, etc)
Yes Sir thanks for clarifyin,
And to Mr. Mands best of luck in that thread and the others.
Anything I could contribute I certainly will.
Facts, results, comparing notes, and any other free, open xchange of ideas benefit all.
Peace
I received my refill prescription HGH JTPN (JINTROPIN) today.
The instructions (pamphlet insert) are similar to the link I sent you:
WHEN TO TAKE
The natural Growth Hormone levels in our body are the highest two hours after sleep and lowest in the morning. Since it would be a good idea to make the best of both natural and exogenous Growth Hormone, it is best to take :
1. All in the morning
2. Half in the morning once you wake up and the other half between post workout and sleep
(These times are the least disruptive of natural GH pulse...multiple daily doses -2IUs x 5 -would be disruptive)
Never take Growth Hormone close to bedtime as this will eventually downgrade the natural productions. We want to take advantage of the Growth Hormone all that we can.
(Right before bed is recommended for (a)GHD - Low IGF1) - ex. Mands IGF1 90
This is how I've always understood it
Elevating IGF1 with the single morning dose....then you have the option to split the dose or even takes days off once IGF1 reaches optimal elevation....like the info in the link I sent you
Maybe Mands can chime in and educate me on dosing or maybe agree with this info
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