Voltrader
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Pics???? You are not new here.
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Thane Labs
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@thane Did you post pics of your equipment last time you were here? If so, change the angles. Lol ... But for fuck sakes change the dates this time.
Mem1guy
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The return of Alpha Gear!!!
Thank you!! I got distracted by the commentary.
Lab setup and equipment is pretty straightforward.
First the borosilicate vials are made to be sterile. I do the extensive pre-washing since there seems to be a slight residue on the vials that is a by-product of the manufacturing process.
Vials are washed in hot water with anti-bacterial soap.
Vials are rinsed off in hot water.
Vials are rinsed thoroughly in distilled water.
Vials are rinsed out thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol and allowed to dry.
Vials are then placed upside down and baked at aprox. 160 degrees Celsius for 120 minutes. They remain covered & upside down until I’m ready for bottling and capping.
Butyl stoppers are simply pressure cooked at 121 degrees Celsius for 15 minutes and placed aside until needed.
The rest is quite simple. Necessary ingredients are measured out and placed in a beaker on a hot-plate. The stir-bar does the rest really. No heat is used on trenbolone products.
Solution is pre-filtered through a .45-micron filter and then through a .20-micron filter into its final sterile media bottle destination.
The rest is essentially just bottling and capping in a borderline sterile environment with proper airflow. Of course gloves, mask, long sleeve clothing, and a hair net are worn during this process.
Autoclave is the first major investment that will be made.....
My current Test P batch was contaminated if you read back I explained this in detail. When it is in stock, I will be happy to allow this as well.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the credits I'm offering which is probably my fault. One person can get BOTH the credit for submitting a LABMAX video and a credit for having bloodwork done later. You don't have to choose just one or the other..... Just try not to pile 5 videos up of all Test E LABMAX since I know that is what everyone will be buying lol.
Right now there is NO MINIMUM ORDER until 12/10/14. This means someone can effectively order a single vial of gear, take a video of performing LABMAX, and get a $100 credit. Essentially paying $50 + the cost of LABMAX amps for $150 of gear. Remember, I don't make you place a new order to get to use your credit. You can place an entirely free order, and if that order should come out to $110 for say two vials of tren ace.... don't worry about it that's fine. I'm not trying to nickel and dime anyone.
Is the borderline sterile environment your bathroom or kitchen?
Hahahah!!! Slow your roll big boy.... you have not yet been cleared to conduct business here by us. I think there are some things you have yet to take care of??? I don't gove a fucking shit about your credits right now. It is interview time! You do not have the job yet... You must be pressed by some last minute Christmas shopping??? Need some quick cash??? Not here buddy. Show us the environment in which you seal up the vials of substance in which you damn well know people are literally INJECTING INTO THEIR BODIES!!!!!!!!!! I don't fucking care if Mrs. Thane goes with or without this X-mas... what I care about is getting an infection of a $50 dollar vial of oil that will cost me my future competitions and a good chunk of my quad muscle!
That actually made me laugh I'll admit.
Neither. HEPA filters do a fantastic job in a room closed off from central AC.... try it
Just addressing what I've been getting in emails publicly concerning the credit. People were confused man I've had it multiple times.
I get that you are just watching out for your brothers. You seem to have mistaken this for a lack of respect - not at all. It's all up to you guys. Not that it matters to you all but I've personally pinned a few hundred cc's.... I know it's safe so in my mind I'm much more relaxed than you. You guys obviously can't know that so I get it. I'm a just guest in your house. You understand where I'm coming from a bit better now?
Not desperate for cash, I do just fine. I know I'll do well here in the long run so it's cool. I would like to see some tests go up though I won't lie. If you think that should wait then I'll happily respect that wish.
lightspan
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Where are the spectra? Are you just ignoring questions you don't like, Zippy? This is not "distracting commentary" bub, this is vetting. You may sucker a few anxious noobs in with the slick sales pitch. Some of us are trying to ensure you don't make off with their cash, and perhaps sell a few abcesses along the way.
So let me try again. Please post a spectrum of some of the used fryer oil you are trying to peddle. Again, you are a lying scammer until you run the gauntlet. Where are these spectra? You are the one making them a "selling point" so throw 'em up zippy.
So let me try again. Please post a spectrum of some of the used fryer oil you are trying to peddle. Again, you are a lying scammer until you run the gauntlet. Where are these spectra? You are the one making them a "selling point" so throw 'em up zippy.
bigpoppachump
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Pictures of the setup will go a longgggggg way man! The longer I hang around this site the more I understand just how sleazy most UGLs are. We'd like to see pics for our piece of mind of where the stuff I'm about to inject into my body is coming from.
You shouldn't be taking Meso orders until you have been given the green light... You have NO refs, NO history, and members are just supposed to take your word on these?????? Answer LightSpan's questions!!
@thane ... You spoke to your manufacturing process but anyone with knowledge of brewing can tell us what we want to hear! I don't rest easy with the fact you do not have an autoclave therefore you have "clean" Not "sterile" technique within your manufacturing process (vials). As my brothers above stated we would still need to see pics of this environment. Tick Tock Tick Tock.
lightspan
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No pics? No spectra (you opened that door with the Iliad you wrote about them)?
You're a lying scammer bottling used fryer oil strained through a dirty t-shirt. Deliver or fuck off, gomer.
You're a lying scammer bottling used fryer oil strained through a dirty t-shirt. Deliver or fuck off, gomer.
Marcus
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He's busy scouring the Internet in search of an HPLC that will fit his lies that have been told here. Anyone who has been given this vital information about their product would have it at their fingertips. It would not take all day to produce it. It's either a quick search on your hard drive, usb drive, or email... This is ridiculous, especially for someone who comes here on this contingency.
Jimmyhoffa59
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So for bragging about studying and all that shit before coming here seems little funny he didn't post pics and data in his first post...aside from slick talk he forgot to study the part where he gets raped for not having what the community asks of sources..
Never claimed to be having HPLC assays performed there Marcus.
"3) I really have no desire to use mass specs as a selling point! I can't prove their legitimacy and in fact know they are inherently flawed. It's just an estimate. That being said, they are still extremely useful and protect the end user from contaminated or bunk gear.
These MS tests are just a tool. They aren't perfect and would be considered erroneous in any serious academic setting, but it does protect the end user a great deal. "
Already said I have no desire to use them as a selling point. Never intended from day 1 to post the graphs and charts. Why bother? I already admitted they are just estimates and never tried to say otherwise. Did any of you not just read the long explanation I wrote 2 pages or so back? It's just a tool.
Riddle me this. Point to one example here on MESO where it ever went well for a source who posted mass specs. Maybe it's happened at some point I don't know, but I sure haven't seen it. Every time it's just caused threads to derail taken over by keyboard warrior's banter and internet gurus claiming with divinity this is wrong this is right or that you're a shill these results are FAKE blah blah. Tell me in what POSSIBLE way could posting a few chromatagraphs, because that is all I get there is no doctor's report or anything of the sort, could possibly have a positive impact in this thread?
I haven't been looking for anything I've been busy doing other things since people here want to have this sort of pointless banter. I'd like to move the discussion forward but I don't know how. Posting any data will just make the thread explode. These are the types of outcomes I see. None of them look positive.
1) Results will be called fake because the numbers are too high
2) Results will be called inaccurate and useless
3) People will say I fabricated the results or stole them
4) People will claim it was done by a public analyst who is incompetent
Marcus
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Post the fucking tests!!! Stop wasting time
Strong..... I think you've been pretty reasonable here. No offense to you with this comment, I think you in particular have been genuine.
Let's introduce some logic into the equation. How many sources here have posted pictures of a $5-7,000 autoclave when they first started? A few, but most do not. No one berates them like I'm seeing here. Why is there such an attack on me, an individual who has provided TONS of information and virtually none on others who provide little? Either people are mad because they think I'm some former source which I am NOT.... or someone feels threatened.
What else is there to say regarding the manufacturing process? It's incredibly simple. The (extremely) difficult part in all this is obtaining a consistent supply of high quality raws.
Let's talk about the process I mentioned and my "unsterile" method here. The only addition I would welcome to the extremely simple method I proposed above, which is basically what I do, is to use an autoclave instead of dry heat sterilization. Why? Not because it's more effective. It's really not. Dry heating vials at the temperature listed for the time listed kills 100% of bacterial spores just like an autoclave does. It just takes much much longer and is more of a hassle. Either method produces perfectly sterile vials for use.
Being able to clave your vials after bottling & capping is certainly nice as well... but the only bacteria that may make it into the product have to make it there in the one or two maybe three minutes the vial has been turned over, in anticipation of being filled with brew, and capped with a completely sterile butyl stopper right out of an autoclave bag the contents of which were sterilized in the pressure cooker earlier.
Air..... what do we push inside a vial every time we go to draw oil for an injection? Air. Why don't bacteria grow as a result? Because BA is bacteriostatic. It can't grow. Exposure to extremely clean air for 1-3 minutes isn't going to cause a infection in anyone but an AIDS patient with cancer and tuberculosis. If it did, you would think from the thousand (guessing) cc's myself and others have pinned using this same exact method, all brewed by me, someone would have gotten an infection. Zero infections.
So now we somehow think seeing a picture of an empty room with HEPA filters running in it to keep dust out of the air is going to help anyone with anything here? I'm not posting a picture of an empty room with white walls to accomplish nothing. A few of the folks here are grasping at straws seemingly just for the sake of grasping. I don't get it.
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