Chip Bronson
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Bob Smith said:Do you feng shui your house, too?
no really what is the correlation between fiction and physics?
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no really what is the correlation between fiction and physics?
patsfan
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I do not even know what it is. Must be a Cailifornia thing lol.Bob Smith said:Do you feng shui your house, too?
So physics is going to determine whether good or bad things happen to you, based on what you do now (or have done in the past)? Based on what you and Pats said, if karma/energy is physics, then we can measure how blessed or fucked were gonna be in the future, correct?
What I was saying is that he mocks people who believe that Adam & Eve existed and were put here on Earth by God, which to him is a crazy idea. Yet at the same time he also may subscribe to the idea that energy/chi/karma will somehow bless/condemn him in the future (what goes around comes around).
What I was saying is that he mocks people who believe that Adam & Eve existed and were put here on Earth by God, which to him is a crazy idea. Yet at the same time he also may subscribe to the idea that energy/chi/karma will somehow bless/condemn him in the future (what goes around comes around).
First, you assume that the story of A&E is fiction. I dont feel like debating that this morning.Chip Bronson said:
Second, I dont think there is a real correlation between "fiction" and physics. He was saying that one story is a joke and the other is plausible, yet also something that can not in any way, shape or form be measured. I thought physics was measurable.
Supposedly its Japanese or Eastern Asian. The general idea as I understand it is that the way you organize your house (colors, furniture locations, etc) will interrupt the energy flow in your house. Or if its done correctly, then the energy flows freely, youre open to creativity, shit like that.patsfan said:
patsfan
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I didnt say I believed first of all I said I liked the Idea and we dont know enough about these things to say one way or another. You are right though Bob..I do mock people who believe in Adam and Eve. One time a guy had a argument with me saying" I cant believe you would rather believe that you come from monkeys" I could not help feel pity for this poor deluded person whom at the time I thought was a sheep aimlessly walking around in a flock.Bob Smith said:
These are just my beliefs and I would also say that I am 100 times more likely to believe in inteligent life on another planet than the parting of the red sea thing.
Chip Bronson
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Bob Smith said:
i did not say that i subscribe to karma nor that karma has anything to do with the energy of the universe. that's pats. i do believe in a universal energy which binds everything living but i don't think it's as cut and dry as, 'you do well and good will come to you; you do bad and misfortune will come to you'. just looking at all the injustices happening around us every day bears this out. as a matter of fact, i think the concept of karma is just as goof as the story of adam and eve. now i don't condemn anyone for believe either but both are obviously ways of trying to 'neatly' explain something that is complex and not fully understood. people can't handle not knowing things. people need tidy little explanations to give meaning to and organize, if you will, their lives.
One has historical and geographic evidence and the other is purely speculation.patsfan said:
patsfan
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If you belive in Adam and Eve(creationalism) then you also belive that the earth is 6000 to 10,000 years old, that all life was created in six literal days, that death and decay came as a result of Adam & Eve's Fall, and that geology must be interpreted in terms of Noah's Flood.Bob Smith said:
And that Bob is cool for you but in my book IMPOSSIBLE.
Much like physics tries to do. IIRC, wasnt Einstein trying to come up with a universal theory to explain everything? Im sure others are working on it as we speak.Chip Bronson said:
Not everything is explainable in nice little packages wrapped in ribbon.
patsfan
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I agree totally thats why I keep an open mind to PLAUSABLE ideas and the whole karma thing is probably not but I just like it more than the rest as I said I really do not have any relgious beliefs.Bob Smith said:
I havent decided fully what I think about the age of the earth. I do believe in creationism and do not believe in evolution. Evolution is the atheists/agnostics attempt to explain where we came from. I think the idea of humans originating as single-celled amoebas or bacteria or whatever 3 million years ago is more laughable than your previous idea about life on other planets.patsfan said:
Chip Bronson
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Bob Smith said:
agreed. it's exactly what i'm saying.
patsfan
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I didnt say I believe just that I am more likely. Bob we can agree to dissagree and thats cool. There is alot more evindece to back up evolution I mean do you think the dinasourse were hanging around 10,000 years ago. Carbon dating IS a science.Bob Smith said:
patsfan said:
the earth isnt 6,000 to 10,000 yrs old , only the recorded history of man
No doubt we can agree to disagree. IMO, debating is good and as long as it stays to the topic and doesnt get personal, then we both come out ahead.
Ive gotta gead to the gym, so Ill address your post when I get back.
Ive gotta gead to the gym, so Ill address your post when I get back.
patsfan
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That is not what creationalist believe Chris.chris gordon said:
patsfan said:
there is no evidence of evolution, yes animals display environmental adaptations...but evolving to a new animal..no, and what do the dinosaurs have to do with evolution? they died out..didnt evolve to shit
thick
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Saturday night I hit a fucking deer with my car. After it i was pissed but in a few minutes I was thanking god. It couldve and shouldve been way worse. I was driving about 80 mph. Several ran into the road. I swerved to avoid one of them. Hit another. Lost control. Did the sideways slide for about 50 yards. Ended up about 40 feet into a ditch. No deer hit my front end so my car is completely drivable. I didnt roll it some how. I had no seatbelt on. Hurt my left shoulder very mildly. No cops showed up so my driving record will not get any worse. damage is about 2k but my car shouldve gotten totalled. Dont have full coverage so this wouldve been bad shit. Still recovering from my car wreck 3 years ago.
So I really feel fortunate with how minor this accident ended up compared to what it couldve/shouldve been. 50 feet later the ditch was several times steeper and wouldve totalled my car and possibly me. Call it luck or whatever but I feel very thankful that it wasnt worse. Dont let this fool you though. I will be taking out my frustrations next fall by blasting the fuck out of at least 20 deer. That is 100 bucks retribution per deer. Plus I get to eat em. About hit another later that night. Its like driving through a state park here
So I really feel fortunate with how minor this accident ended up compared to what it couldve/shouldve been. 50 feet later the ditch was several times steeper and wouldve totalled my car and possibly me. Call it luck or whatever but I feel very thankful that it wasnt worse. Dont let this fool you though. I will be taking out my frustrations next fall by blasting the fuck out of at least 20 deer. That is 100 bucks retribution per deer. Plus I get to eat em. About hit another later that night. Its like driving through a state park here
patsfan
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Are you serious? There is overwhelming evidence.chris gordon said:
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Life Form
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Millions of Years Since
First Known Appearance
(Approximate)
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Microbial (procaryotic cells) 3,500
Complex (eucaryotic cells) 2,000
First multicellular animals 670
Shell-bearing animals 540
Vertebrates (simple fishes) 490
Amphibians 350
Reptiles 310
Mammals 200
Nonhuman primates 60
Earliest apes 25
Australopithecine ancestors of humans 4
Modern humans 0 .15 (150,000 years)
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I mean I can get the research and post it if you want but its a LONG read bro.
