The end of steroids in China? New law in 2020

[vidocq]

Anyone else researching this? As of Jan 2020, China has added steroids, sarms and hgh on their lists of banned substances, and raws sources are saying companies will no longer willingly ship them to the USA...

 

[johntt44]

Where did you read this?

 

[johntt44]

Didn't come up anywhere when I searched it. They sell fentanyl for fucks sake! I call bs.

 

[bambam333]

I wouldn’t worry about it I don’t think they give a shit if it’s illegal or not, they’re still flooding us with fentanyl and that has a lot more eyes on it than steroids

 

[vidocq]

Two raw sources have emailed me, and there is a discussion going on at ProM. It looks like the Chinese government has added steroids, sarms and gh to their list of banned substances and raws suppliers are saying shipping companies in China are refusing to ship any of those products starting Jan 1, 2020

 

[vidocq]

Translate to English:

最高人民法院发布《关于审理走私、非法经营、非法使用兴奋剂刑事案件适用法律若干问题的解释》（附全文）

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Too much money in it for these guys to walk away. If there's a way to keep the train rolling, they'll find it.

 

[Uglyrichie]

Regulatory Changes 2019/11/25 sorry no grey box but I dare you to click it paste bin lists compounds

 

[johntt44]

Two raw sources have emailed me, and there is a discussion going on at ProM. It looks like the Chinese government has added steroids, sarms and gh to their list of banned substances and raws suppliers are saying shipping companies in China are refusing to ship any of those products starting Jan 1, 2020

Fentanyl is good to go then? It won't happen believe me.

 

[MFMC]

Too much money in it for these guys to walk away. If there's a way to keep the train rolling, they'll find it.

Exactly.. That would not even slow them down. Of course, if they incurred extra cost in any business it is always transferred to the buyer.

 

[vidocq]

Chinese laws ARE somewhat draconian. Fentanyl is also been added to the banned list, and rightfully so. But it seems steroids have become an unwitting casualty of the new banned substances list.

Raws sources are saying the shipping companies are saying they’re going to refuse to ship these things come the new year. I don’t think these companies know how serious the Chinese is govt is about cracking down.

if this is just a stunt to appease the American govt, then no big deal. But if this IS an attempt by the govt to crack down, there WILL be an issue :/

 

[johntt44]

Chinese laws ARE somewhat draconian. Fentanyl is also been added to the banned list, and rightfully so. But it seems steroids have become an unwitting casualty of the new banned substances list.

Raws sources are saying the shipping companies are saying they’re going to refuse to ship these things come the new year. I don’t think these companies know how serious the Chinese is govt is about cracking down.

if this is just a stunt to appease the American govt, then no big deal. But if this IS an attempt by the govt to crack down, there WILL be an issue :/

They need to crack down on stealing intellectual property first. Kind of putting the cart before the horse aren't they?Doesn't make sense. Even them saying it doesn't make me believe it. Too much money in it.

 

[bambam333]

I’ll be joining them an raid the factories if that goes down

 

[MindlessWork]

Too much money in it for these guys to walk away. If there's a way to keep the train rolling, they'll find it.

They could make raws in say India or another Asian country. Just like how many regular companies moved production from China to other low cost countries.

 

[vidocq]

They could make raws in say India or another Asian country. Just like how many regular companies moved production from China to other low cost countries.

I agree there are other possible scenarios. I’m just wondering how much time will be in between China cutting off the supply and these sources setting up shop elsewhere

 

[MindlessWork]

I agree there are other possible scenarios. I’m just wondering how much time will be in between China cutting off the supply and these sources setting up shop elsewhere

I am sure it will take time so there will most likely be disruption in the AAS market. Maybe a good time to start stocking up as prices will start going up bigtime.

 

[EazyE]

They could make raws in say India or another Asian country. Just like how many regular companies moved production from China to other low cost countries.

Agreed.
First off I don’t believe the Chinese will enforce or crack down much on steroid raw powder manufacturing. It may very well become illegal. But then again so is cocaine, but the Columbian and Mexican cartels are still rolling.
And if China does put a hard stop on this, there will be other players in the game that will fill the void (from India, Turkey, Iran) for the market.

 

[Sworder]

Regulatory Changes 2019/11/25 sorry no grey box but I dare you to click it paste bin lists compounds

Use the "+" and insert Code.

 

[MindlessWork]

Agreed.
First off I don’t believe the Chinese will enforce or crack down much on steroid raw powder manufacturing. It may very well become illegal. But then again so is cocaine, but the Columbian and Mexican cartels are still rolling.
And if China does put a hard stop on this, there will be other players in the game that will fill the void (from India, Turkey, Iran) for the market.

Yep I remember reading about gear made in Iran for example, so yes there will be other places to make the raw and finished product. It will take time to adapt so there will be disruption for a time.

 

[EazyE]

Yep I remember reading about gear made in Iran for example, so yes there will be other places to make the raw and finished product. It will take time to adapt so there will be disruption for a time.

I have almost 3 years worth of gear on hand that would be sufficient to supply many heavy cycles. I think I can wait it out if needed.