The Lobster International,EU and UK domestic HGH,PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy

[TheLobster]

If you test at 1 month or 3 months and see greater degradation I'd just shut it down at that point and compensate folks that received non vacuumed vials.

I will share the details soon, including the dates. I need to finalize the testing dates with Janoshink and then share them here.

Testing will be done at 1, 3, 6, and 12 months with Janoshink.

Thank you

 

[Standfast]

What is the testing results on the new current orange top your selling?

 

[Letits now]

I will share the details soon, including the dates. I need to finalize the testing dates with Janoshink and then share them here.

Testing will be done at 1, 3, 6, and 12 months with Janoshink.

Thank you

This is actually pretty impressive. Haven’t seen a vendor do this before but I’m not on every thread.

 

[TheLobster]

What is the testing results on the new current orange top your selling?

Hello

New results for the orange caps will arrive in 10 days maybe sooner. However, there is no expectation of bad results. You know that if you continue doing the same thing, you can’t expect different results, but I am doing the test anyway

Thank you

 

[Var1]

I personally think there’s a can of worms that’s been opened and a mountain made out of a mole hill! If it really bothers some folks then only buy a couple of months worth at a time and don’t mass order ! Also the ones shooting there mouth off are the ones that buy one or two boxes at a time anyway. We all know to store are peptides in the fridge because it’s said we should but I’ve seen jano test before we’re the hgh was kept at room temperature for months and still had great lab results

 

[bighunanballs]

We all know to store are peptides in the fridge because it’s said we should but I’ve seen jano test before we’re the hgh was kept at room temperature for months and still had great lab results

This is an independent variable vs O2 levels being present in the vial from bottling at atmos

 

[Var1]

Well at least this vendor has come forward, explained in full detail of his operations and has a plan moving forward with testing at intervals! And not gone into hiding like some others! Work with him not against him .

 

[iris]

While I'm having the machine fixed in January, I'll take this opportunity to provide/produce clarity on this matter by arranging for testing non-vacuum sealed hgh vs a vacuum sealed control group (made from the same batch of raws at the same time) both for humidity and for degradation at a recommended 0, 3, 6, 12 months post production in realistic storage conditions (as few users will have access to cooling them at the –20 °C or –80 °C recommended in the sigmaaldritch link), and publish the results in this thread as well as in a separate thread.

It's not that there's a lack of non-vacuum sealed peptide test results cumulatively proving my point around in this community but rather that they're all scattered and not tagged/time-stamped properly, so let me know if you want to add any specifications to this testing to strengthen the potential results/remove any bias as there's always an inherent issue with a source setting up such testing rather than the community

I am trying to catch up on everyone's messages.

Sir, I have to say the way you are addressing this problem and your communication with us is excellent.
This attitude is not something we encounter from all sources, unfortunately.
But you are proving to be responsive and proactive in answering members' concerns and tackling the issue at hand.
It is only fair we should acknowledge this.

Please be consistent with the interventions you have committed to undertaking and follow through in a timely manner, as you said you are going to.

I am rooting for you to resolve this and provide the quality product that your clients pay for and expect to be receiving from you.
Thank you.

 

[biggerben69]

Could it be linked to increasing shelf life of the product?

Don't know? Just picked up 4 kits of Seros that came out of the Specialty Walgreens Pharmacy inside the Desert AIDS Project tonight. They don't get any fresher with exp dates of January 2027.

Once in a while I'll come across a kit or a guy will have a bag full of kits with expired dates. As long as they've been in a cool dark place for the couple of years that they sat they should be ok.

Problem with that is this is the So Cal Desert. Its gets up into the 120's in the Summer. I've run into some not so stable people who have their electricity turned off every month for a few days. Its warms up quickly inside in the Summer with no AC.

I've also been present when a guy has thought he had his kits stolen only to find them months later under some laundry or seat of his car that looks like he lives out of. You never can tell how people are living.

I believe its been proven, to a degree, that GH is a bit tougher or more stable than we used to believe. Seros has warnings to "Swirl" NOT "Shake" when mixing water with the powder and to let the water run down the side of the vial to mix and to not shoot the water into the powder.

I never could figure what could potentially happen to the GH molecule if kids gloves weren't used?

Last thing...back to exp dates....I'd been led to believe that exp dates when it comes to certain products are important to mind. GH was one of those products and it was because of how "Unstable" it is. I have a hard time changing the way I've been trained to think where somethings are concerned.

I've had it explained to me that exp dates are in place to keep things turning over at your local pharms across the country. Like milk in a grocery store. Gotta rotate product and keep pushing the oldest stuff to the front. Big Pharma wants to keep slow moving product fresh. They want to ensure their inventory keeps turning over.

Back a # of years there was a source that sold expired pharm grade prescription drugs. Narcotics, of course, were what the majority of visitors were looking for. There were no Dr's consults of any kind. They were going strong and then one day they were gone.

Our gov't was playing catch up for a long time where the internet was concerned. The DEA or FBI didn't have a Cyber Task Force to point to for the first decade or so that the World Wide Web was in existence.

I was one of the original members of drugbuyers.com....When Quality Vet hit the scene MexRxonline.....

Sorry...going waaay of topic. The end...for now.

 

[iris]

Don't know? Just picked up 4 kits of Seros that came out of the Specialty Walgreens Pharmacy inside the Desert AIDS Project tonight. They don't get any fresher with exp dates of January 2027.

Once in a while I'll come across a kit or a guy will have a bag full of kits with expired dates. As long as they've been in a cool dark place for the couple of years that they sat they should be ok.

Problem with that is this is the So Cal Desert. Its gets up into the 120's in the Summer. I've run into some not so stable people who have their electricity turned off every month for a few days. Its warms up quickly inside in the Summer with no AC.

I've also been present when a guy has thought he had his kits stolen only to find them months later under some laundry or seat of his car that looks like he lives out of. You never can tell how people are living.

I believe its been proven, to a degree, that GH is a bit tougher or more stable than we used to believe. Seros has warnings to "Swirl" NOT "Shake" when mixing water with the powder and to let the water run down the side of the vial to mix and to not shoot the water into the powder.

I never could figure what could potentially happen to the GH molecule if kids gloves weren't used?

Last thing...back to exp dates....I'd been led to believe that exp dates when it comes to certain products are important to mind. GH was one of those products and it was because of how "Unstable" it is. I have a hard time changing the way I've been trained to think where somethings are concerned.

I've had it explained to me that exp dates are in place to keep things turning over at your local pharms across the country. Like milk in a grocery store. Gotta rotate product and keep pushing the oldest stuff to the front. Big Pharma wants to keep slow moving product fresh. They want to ensure their inventory keeps turning over.

Back a # of years there was a source that sold expired pharm grade prescription drugs. Narcotics, of course, were what the majority of visitors were looking for. There were no Dr's consults of any kind. They were going strong and then one day they were gone.

Our gov't was playing catch up for a long time where the internet was concerned. The DEA or FBI didn't have a Cyber Task Force to point to for the first decade or so that the World Wide Web was in existence.

I was one of the original members of drugbuyers.com....When Quality Vet hit the scene MexRxonline.....

Sorry...going waaay of topic. The end...for now.

Thank you so much for taking time to reply, with one of your customary amazing posts.
It makes sense that storage conditions could make a difference.
I did read on Meso, somewhere, what you are saying about GH being a peptide more resilient than previously thought.

We know you are keen on pharma and this is what you a referring to.
I wonder whether the same degree of resilience would apply to ugl gh, though.
Maybe the different way in which it is produced could also end up affecting its shelf life and resistance to degradation in suboptimal storage conditions, when compared to pharma.
There is info on this somewhere, I think tests were done on ugl gh to do with degradation iirc, maybe even by Qsc.
Have to look it up, sorry I don't remember.

Thanks, again and also thank you for taking an interest in this.
I am sure the Lobster will resolve the problem with his equipment, as swiftly as he can.
It's always great seeing you and we always look forward to you being around.

 

[RekTest]

Thank you so much for taking time to reply, with one of your customary amazing posts.
It makes sense that storage conditions could make a difference.
I did read on Meso, somewhere, what you are saying about GH being a peptide more resilient than previously thought.

We know you are keen on pharma and this is what you a referring to.
I wonder whether the same degree of resilience would apply to ugl gh, though.
Maybe the different way in which it is produced could also end up affecting its shelf life and resistance to degradation in suboptimal storage conditions, when compared to pharma.
There is info on this somewhere, I think tests were done on ugl gh to do with degradation iirc, maybe even by Qsc.
Have to look it up, sorry I don't remember.

Thanks, again and also thank you for taking an interest in this.
I am sure the Lobster will resolve the problem with his equipment, as swiftly as he can.
It's always great seeing you and we always look forward to you being around.

Wasnt the GH degradation done by the Cat? IIRC , I want to say.

 

[xeonmasters]

I wish all manufacturers had the same level of honesty as @TheLobster

 

[iris]

Wasnt the GH degradation done by the Cat? IIRC , I want to say.

Probably.
I don't remember.
Maybe qsc or someone else tested something else, for degradation. Hcg?
Sorry sweetie, I have to look for it, don't remember

 

[readalot]

Already paid
All ok
NP

Thank you

Still waiting for results?

 

[brutalbuilt]

While I'm having the machine fixed in January, I'll take this opportunity to provide/produce clarity on this matter by arranging for testing non-vacuum sealed hgh vs a vacuum sealed control group (made from the same batch of raws at the same time) both for humidity and for degradation at a recommended 0, 3, 6, 12 months post production in realistic storage conditions (as few users will have access to cooling them at the –20 °C or –80 °C recommended in the sigmaaldritch link), and publish the results in this thread as well as in a separate thread.

It's not that there's a lack of non-vacuum sealed peptide test results cumulatively proving my point around in this community but rather that they're all scattered and not tagged/time-stamped properly, so let me know if you want to add any specifications to this testing to strengthen the potential results/remove any bias as there's always an inherent issue with a source setting up such testing rather than the community

ill send a vial of your hgh i got that has no vacuum to jano if you cover the charge

 

[RekTest]

Probably.
I don't remember.
Maybe qsc or someone else tested something else, for degradation. Hcg?
Sorry sweetie, I have to look for it, don't remember

Found it for you
This, correct? Cat did both HCG and HGH

Its a shame meso lost this dude, he was doing so much. We need more sources like him, pushing the boundaries of research.

#fuckqsc

Thread 'HGH degradation testing'

Jan 31, 2023

For reconstituted HCG degradation testing, see:

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

thinksteroids.com

My initial HGH test was conducted by Janoshik on the 20th of January; with the five tested vials showing an insignificant variance containing between 4.25mg (12,75iu) - 4.31mg (12,93iu) and a purity of 97.0 - 97.5%, which is well within the margin of error for the testing method. Please don't forget that you can scroll down on these reports to see the raw testing data...

• Liska
• @janoshik degradation hgh oldschool runescape
• Replies: 19
• Forum: Analytical Lab Testing

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[brutalbuilt]

Thank you for addressing this issue in good faith. The testing you propose would certainly be useful to quantify the increase in degradation caused by a lack of vacuum seal.

Until the results are in, however, it is important to maintain transparency towards your customers. For example, you could state the lack of vacuum seal in the description of the items/batches that are affected. And then let customers know once a batch without the issue is available. That way, customers can decide for themselves whether they are willing to take the risk of increased degradation, and/or take measures to mitigate it (by using the affected batches as soon as possible instead of keeping them in the stockpile for a year).

yeah they should of at least let us know... i bought 9 kits of this shit

 

[iris]

Found it for you
This, correct? Cat did both HCG and HGH

Its a shame meso lost this dude, he was doing so much. We need more sources like him, pushing the boundaries of research.

Thread 'HGH degradation testing'

Jan 31, 2023

For reconstituted HCG degradation testing, see:

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

thinksteroids.com

My initial HGH test was conducted by Janoshik on the 20th of January; with the five tested vials showing an insignificant variance containing between 4.25mg (12,75iu) - 4.31mg (12,93iu) and a purity of 97.0 - 97.5%, which is well within the margin of error for the testing method. Please don't forget that you can scroll down on these reports to see the raw testing data...

• Liska
• @janoshik degradation hgh oldschool runescape
• Replies: 19
• Forum: Analytical Lab Testing

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• 

Thank you.
There is one Tracy did for reconstituted hcg, too.
But yes, Clever Cat was the first one with that.
And to test some dodgy tesofensine, too...

That was interesting

 

[IceIcebaby22]

Hi

Uk stock has 2 kits just left . They are with vacuum but already sold out i belive will check. New stocks in January with vacuum yes

Thank you

I've sent you an email for 2 kits if still in stock.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I don't know if this is considered slow, fast or in between, i just can say for sure i've used other peptides which sucked the plunger in like 1 second. It was my first time using a peptide (BPC) and i didn't know they're vacuumed that much.

That's slow. A strong vacuum will suck in 2 mL in a second.

Edit: maybe that's normal speed for an insulin pin. I usually use 21 gauge and it's much faster.