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That's slow. A strong vacuum will suck in 2 mL in a second.

Edit: maybe that's normal speed for an insulin pin. I usually use 21 gauge and it's much faster.
Hello

The air passing through an insulin needle is not the same as the air passing through a regular injection needle.

An insulin needle is 0.25–0.23 mm, while a regular injection needle is 0.7–0.8 mm.

They expect the air being drawn from the vial to pass through a small insulin needle in the same way it does through a larger regular needle....

The flow of air through a needle depends on its internal diameter, which directly affects the rate at which air can pass through. Since insulin needles are significantly narrower than regular needles, the air flow is restricted, making the process slower or less efficient. This is why regular needles are generally used for drawing air or liquid from vials

Thank you
 
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Hello

The air passing through an insulin needle is not the same as the air passing through a regular injection needle.

An insulin needle is 0.25–0.23 mm, while a regular injection needle is 0.7–0.8 mm.

They expect the air being drawn from the vial to pass through a small insulin needle in the same way it does through a larger regular needle....sad

The flow of air through a needle depends on its internal diameter, which directly affects the rate at which air can pass through. Since insulin needles are significantly narrower than regular needles, the air flow is restricted, making the process slower or less efficient. This is why regular needles are generally used for drawing air or liquid from vials

Thank you
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For clarification, i just reconstituted a new vial. I just pinned and let all the bac let loose only for you guys here to see the rate of flow. I don't do it that way, i always go slower and avoid hitting the powder directly with the water (i aim for the side glass).

I used 0,9ml bac water, i'm holding the plunger with my thumb and you can see the plunger going down when i remove my thumb. This is my fifth vial and all are having the same vacuum (just my estimation).

I don't know if this is considered slow, fast or in between, i just can say for sure i've used other peptides which sucked the plunger in like 1 second. It was my first time using a peptide (BPC) and i didn't know they're vacuumed that much.

thats about how fast my bac water goes into the vial fwiw,,, i use a 1 ml slin pin
 
This is 100% accurate. If these vials are not filled with an inert blanket gas or stored under vacuum then the atmospheric oxygen present when bottling will degrade these peptides fast. I don't think anyone has Jano tested analytics on improperly finished vials, but theoretically from other industries we see degradation of 5-10% within the first 2-4 weeks and 30-50% in a few months time ( not apples to apples but this is typically lyophilized water soluble THC and cannabinoids) I would definitely not be interested in a non-vacuumed vial of HGH If I was planning on storing it for longer than a couple months
My man
...thank you for not accepting this bullshit smoke and mirrors. The vials are not sealed to basic UGL standards. WTF.
 
Hello

The air passing through an insulin needle is not the same as the air passing through a regular injection needle.

An insulin needle is 0.25–0.23 mm, while a regular injection needle is 0.7–0.8 mm.

They expect the air being drawn from the vial to pass through a small insulin needle in the same way it does through a larger regular needle....

The flow of air through a needle depends on its internal diameter, which directly affects the rate at which air can pass through. Since insulin needles are significantly narrower than regular needles, the air flow is restricted, making the process slower or less efficient. This is why regular needles are generally used for drawing air or liquid from vials

Thank you


 
Please
Hopefully lobster fixes the vac process by the time he starts up the 36-40iu kits. Been looking forward to testing some
Yep. He started out with a Stellar rep. Testing has been money. Hopefully, he will fix.
 
That's slow. A strong vacuum will suck in 2 mL in a second.

Edit: maybe that's normal speed for an insulin pin. I usually use 21 gauge and it's much faster.

thats about how fast my bac water goes into the vial fwiw,,, i use a 1 ml slin pin

I noticed that from the first time i used a vial from the kit, i've not used hundreds of peptide vials but almost all the previous peptides i've used (china) they had a stronger vacuum. That's what i'm saying, i don't have a clue if this is considered slow or fast, or how many Pa they have and i don't really care TBH.

It's something another member brought up (about the Vacuum) and i just agreed based on my limited experience. I made the video in case my understanding and experience is not enough to form an opinion about the matter.
 
Did you see?
I did. Well done on the testing and going above and beyond as I tried to talk you out of some of the tests (see above for those interested). Do you have the website link and raw data for any of the tests above?

I have a testing database thread if you'd like to update the post I made for you.

Take care.
 
I did. Well done on the testing and going above and beyond as I tried to talk you out of some of the tests (see above for those interested). Do you have the website link and raw data for any of the tests above?

I have a testing database thread if you'd like to update the post I made for you.

Take care.
Hello

I can’t share the link here because links require admin approval, which usually takes 5–6 hours. However, I’ve already shared them in the Telegram channel, so you can check them there.

I will also conduct a raw material test soon and share the results

Thank you
 

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