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Eman said:
I agree it can certainly appear as such. However, like I said, I changed my thoughts on his motives after following closely.

Muscle is fascinated by GH, particularly generic GH. He's not much unlike a lot of the guys in this thread. We all want the golden egg... Cheap, legit HGH. If I was as passionate as he is, perhaps I would be accused of having ulterior motives myself? Hell, you've had accusations thrown at you too for the effort you go to lol. I'm not trying to change your mind either, suspicion is a good trait to have on Meso.

The PM vs Meso member issue only takes us a step back every time we have made a few steps forward I think... At least this discussion is here and not there or it would be pages of deleted posts. :)
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And all that sounds great BUT as Ive mentioned previously, bc their motives are quite different so are the set of "rules" of each forum! PM has multiple aimed at control and censorship, while Meso has next to NONE!

The difference is often a contrast between night and day!

Oh and how do you KNOW what the context was of those posts by MH that were censored by PM?
 
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Dr JIM said:
I unblocked him bc I was tired of his incessant criticism of this evidence MANDS.

He "wants to have his cake and eat it to", bc none of this would be tolerated on PM but once again he's first in the batting cage the minute another generic GH assay is began.

AND WHY IS THAT?
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But Jim, I thought the Chinese didn't have the technology to make real HGH. Thats what you used to tell me. Now you say they can make, they just underdose it; what a joke. Why don't you admit that you are the one who has a bias against generic GH. I could care less whether its generic or pharma as long at is contains what its supposed to and is not harmful.
 
Dr JIM said:
And all that sounds great BUT as Ive mentioned previously, bc their motives are quite different so are the set of rules of each forum!

The difference is often a contrast between night and day!

Oh and how do you KNOW what the context was of those posts by MH that were censored by PM?
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Didn't you get the memo? I am not the owner of PM, I am not an admin of PM either; both of which you accused me before(talk about ignorance). I am simply a member and have no special privileges. You keep acting like its "us against them". We are all on the same fucking team. Its people like you that ruin it for the team. I have the same goals as you do, at least I hope so. That is to promote what is legit and safe and keep people away from inferior and dangerous products. If you don't want to work together, that is fine; but that isn't going to change my goals and my actions.
 
Dr JIM said:
I unblocked him bc I was tired of his incessant criticism of this evidence MANDS.

He "wants to have his cake and eat it to", bc none of this would be tolerated on PM but once again he's first in the batting cage the minute another generic GH assay is began.

AND WHY IS THAT?
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His passion like mine for GH?

mands
 
Dr JIM said:
And all that sounds great BUT as Ive mentioned previously, bc their motives are quite different so are the set of "rules" of each forum! PM has multiple aimed at control and censorship, while Meso has next to NONE!

The difference is often a contrast between night and day!

Oh and how do you KNOW what the context was of those posts by MH that were censored by PM?
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Jim, those posts that were deleted on PM were not by me and had nothing to do with me. Some guy posted a link to the testing results on here and was yapping about Karl and TP's GH being underdosed. If mine was deleted it was simply because I had a quote from his deleted post in my post; so they had to delete it as well. I actually posted that I support the testing over here; which I do. And I think if we can work together we can improve each others testing protocols.
 
muscle96ss said:
Actually better words for describing pretty much each and every one of your posts here.
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Felt picked out by that? reaction tells the truth.

You find all your posts very informative?? You mean your efforts to ad the sponsor? yeah I can google something related to what's being discussed and give everyone a false feeling that you know what you are talking about. what's your education? OH WAIT! Your avatar tells the truth...Haven't seen any juice-head past 10 years with adequate education talking science,lol. or we can call it Bro-science

So you do testing, spending your time and money on labs to help others find the best GH on a sponsor board? Oh no. Because as Mands said you look for legit GH. NOT. Everyone being in BB world for 15+ years as you said, would know 'naf people to get pharma grade cheap or good generic wo testing.
I wish I knew the art of stirring so I can have as many posts as you or your fellas.
Thanks for your honesty tho.
 
So again we have entered in another vortex of accusations, personal attacks, faint rapprochement, rinse, repeat.

But one question has not been posed or addressed...

If the testing methodology by Jim et al. is flawed and theorized to produce under dosed results... What is the explanation for samples No. 15, 17, & 19? All three samples produced results that fall within acceptable ranges for their labeled/advertised contents (10iu) 10.60iu, 9.70iu, & 9.80iu, respectively.

Refer to http://goo.gl/1nNHmg (Generic HGH Assays) for links to each sample report by Jim.

Are they just outliers? anomalies? a stroke of luck where the technician performed the test properly ? overdosed 25%+/-?

Or is this debate just a rigorous exercise in futility and the reports are indeed accurate? Is it a far stretch of the imagination to assume that cost engineering is being done in the production end to squeeze that little extra bit of profit?

These "generics" aren't being produced for a market with "legitimate" clients i.e children with deficiencies, patients with wasting disorders... the manufacturers know full well who their market is for.... vain, narcissistic, muscle bound meatheads who are destined to develop insulin resistance due to abuse of their products.

I doubt anyone is losing sleep by cutting a few corners... they might actually think they are doing us a favor lol.

Hmmmm.. I struggle to decide what may be the reality.... I guess we'll see if and when the Pharma product results are released.
 
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muscle96ss said:
Jim, those posts that were deleted on PM were not by me and had nothing to do with me. Some guy posted a link to the testing results on here and was yapping about Karl and TP's GH being underdosed. If mine was deleted it was simply because I had a quote from his deleted post in my post; so they had to delete it as well. I actually posted that I support the testing over here; which I do. And I think if we can work together we can improve each others testing protocols.
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It doesn't help when you have forums that delete posts to protect sponsors and that's no reflection on you M96. ASF and IMF are notorious for just doing that at one time (not sure if they still do, I don't waste anytime there now).
 
jano said:
How does it feel being retarded again?
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You should know, Jane. You and your boyfriend couldn't even agree on where you're located - the UK or the Czech Republic.

I won't even address the fact that you posted a pic of the wrong mass spec machine when you attempted to defend your forged AAS assay. I suppose 40+ years of humiliation by the Russian bear tends to leave one confused. Carry on, Tоварищ. LMFAO
 
muscle96ss said:
Tp does not have the luxury of being able to order short filled vials nor can the factory short fill them without legal risk. It would be similar to if Serono decided to take a risk and sell their kits to the black market.
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If you're so convinced that TP is getting his GH from a licensed pharmaceutical manufacturer in China; one that, according to you, is routinely audited by the government to ensure quality, there shouldn't be any need for testing the product, should there?

I mean, you don't have the prescriptions you pick up from Walgreen's analyzed, do you? Yet here you are, leading the charge for testing TP's GH. Your argument is absurd.
 
Dr JIM said:
How ironic you and Janeo can pose about being scientists or "almost doctors" and question the data from a bonafied LAB that's CERTIFIED in RESEARCH, CLINICAL and COMMERCIAL analytical testing. What a joke!
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rpbb said:
Janos, why didn't you ever respond to all of CBS's evidence that you're a total fraud
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Totally ignored that, didn't he? I suppose we should cut Jane some slack though. The poor boy can't even decide if he's in the UK or Czech Republic so getting tripped up by posting the wrong mass spec machine seems understandable. Lmao
 
jano said:
And I can go with Mr. Jeffrey Whiteaker, Ph.D., who is currently Director of Proteomics in the laboratory of Mandy Paulovich at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, WA, who states the same about ELISA in a *published article*


Also if you are referring to this thread: What is the most accurate method of determining protein concentration?

Please note quite important points:

1. unavailability of standard
2. it is not an article, just a post on the board
3. the guy you are referring to states "If you're dealing with a crude sample and want to determine the concentration of just one protein amongst many, you have to have an assay specific for that protein and pure protein to compare it to." WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WITH AAA!!!
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Wow how profound!

The most reliable QUAlITATIVE assay is one that evaluates the SUM OF A MOLECULAR STRUCTURES PARTS, while
the most reliable QUANTITATIVE assay evaluates a molecular structures components separately IF POSSIBLE!

Of course I don't expect you to understand or appreciate those words but that JANEO is CHEMISTRY 101,
something YOU never learned OTJ, lol!
 
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