THE new "Generic" HGH Assay PAGE! AAA testing

[janoshik]

Yes I did just now google and I'm going with Pete Holt with Cambridge He's stating it's the gold standard as well. As well is many others.

mans

And I can go with Mr. Jeffrey Whiteaker, Ph.D., who is currently Director of Proteomics in the laboratory of Mandy Paulovich at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, WA, who states the same about ELISA in a *published article*


Also if you are referring to this thread: What is the most accurate method of determining protein concentration?

Please note quite important points:

1. unavailability of standard
2. it is not an article, just a post on the board
3. the guy you are referring to states "If you're dealing with a crude sample and want to determine the concentration of just one protein amongst many, you have to have an assay specific for that protein and pure protein to compare it to." WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WITH AAA!!!

 

[rpbb]

Lol.

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this pretty much explains everything, they can come here and say stuff that would get them banned over there. and the sources must be paying jano and muscle by the word, because they make no sense

 

[rpbb]

And I can go with Mr. Jeffrey Whiteaker, Ph.D., who is currently Director of Proteomics in the laboratory of Mandy Paulovich at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, WA, who states the same about ELISA in a *published article*


Also if you are referring to this thread: What is the most accurate method of determining protein concentration?
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Please note quite important points:

1. unavailability of standard
2. it is not an article, just a post on the board
3. the guy you are referring to states "If you're dealing with a crude sample and want to determine the concentration of just one protein amongst many, you have to have an assay specific for that protein and pure protein to compare it to." WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WITH AAA!!!

the difference is you don't have the background and training to quote anybody, unnless you call reading the instruction manual to an hplc machine in your mom's basement

 

[DickySmalls]

I'm glad this thread didn't turn to shit like the last one.

 

[mands]

And I can go with Mr. Jeffrey Whiteaker, Ph.D., who is currently Director of Proteomics in the laboratory of Mandy Paulovich at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, WA, who states the same about ELISA in a *published article*


Also if you are referring to this thread: What is the most accurate method of determining protein concentration?

Please note quite important points:

1. unavailability of standard
2. it is not an article, just a post on the board
3. the guy you are referring to states "If you're dealing with a crude sample and want to determine the concentration of just one protein amongst many, you have to have an assay specific for that protein and pure protein to compare it to." WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WITH AAA!!!

It was a joke. It was just the first thing that came up when I searched google like you stated.

And like you stated again it's just a post on a board.

mands

 

[rpbb]

and how do we know what standard they used over at pm, let me guess, it was a vial of greytops, after all, they are the best

 

[rpbb]

Janos, why didn't you ever respond to all of CBS's evidence that you're a total fraud

 

[PrideofNYC123]

Lol.

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Assuming this is you, to be fair I did address your question. They deleted that post as well. I don't like their attitude of pretending the rest of the internet doesn't exist, but I can't stand the name calling and misinformation on this forum. I'm not referring to this thread, but as it whole, it reminds me of fbook groups. I still follow along here as there is good information and I want good gh.

 

[Dr JIM]

Also which HUMATROPE standard, can you point it out? I don't recall any Humatrope being used over on PM... Glad to hear you have such insider info even I don't have.

Yup I'm WRONG Janeo didn't use HUMATROPE! However what he didn't do was even worse; Janeo failed to declare what standard, if any, was used for "his HPLCS"!

Once again, acts of data omission such as these decry logic from an analytical perspective as they are so far removed from contemporary lab science norms.

But what else should anyone expect from an amateur!

 

[Eman]

this pretty much explains everything, they can come here and say stuff that would get them banned over there. and the sources must be paying jano and muscle by the word, because they make no sense

I agree, it says everything and is the reason I will never take PM seriously as a forum... I'm not sure why so many do.

With that said, I don't believe @muscle96ss is being paid by anyone to push hGH because I've paid very close attention. I used to think he was but I now have to admit I don't believe it. Keep in mind, his posts are deleted and censored on PM as well, even in regards to this very testing on Meso.

Jano on the other hand.... He's a pain in the ass and that's about it so far. Perhaps he'll change that, doubtful though.

Regardless, I continue to hope that we can make the best of the testing being done. It's one of the best things to happen since I started on this forum and I'm very happy to see Millard giving some input too. I'm tired of the banter but it's par for the course I suppose.. just have to pay close attention.

Assuming this is you, to be fair

On PM you mean? No, not me. Not sure which member you're referring to but if it's the one I think you're talking about, he's following this thread too.

 

[Dr JIM]

Assuming this is you, to be fair I did address your question. They deleted that post as well. I don't like their attitude of pretending the rest of the internet doesn't exist, but I can't stand the name calling and misinformation on this forum. I'm not referring to this thread, but as it whole, it reminds me of fbook groups. I still follow along here as there is good information and I want good gh.

Oh please having girlie men ears is just another PM talking point that "justifies" the need for censorship, and the latter PM has NO PROBLEM WITH.

You get the good with the bad and most Meso members can control what few "visitors" arrive with a point or a pill to push wo the need for formal mods.

PM is citing absolutely unverifiable GH analytical data as a means to enhance SALES, pure and simple

 

[rpbb]

There's absolutely NO reason to believe that might be the case. None whatsoever. Unless...

Something about Jano seemed familiar but I couldn't quite place him until he showed his hand in the above post.

Jana first appeared on Meso last year. He was involved in producing fake test results for David/GETM/Gentech and their number one shill, Xupc. Only at that time he wasn't claiming to be an MD, just a lab tech.

I'll let the facts speak for themselves, but suffice it to say, this clown is working for an ugl, and probably one of the failed GH makers Jim and Mands had analyzed:

Jim pointed out an error with the machine they supposedly used to test trenbolone:





After Jim pointed this error out, Xupc posted the manual for a completely different spectrometer - one that conviently doesn't have the issue with wavelength.:







UK GENTECH LABS

 

[muscle96ss]

Many blogs and sites state that it's the Gold Standard for protein and peptide quantification.

I'm sure nobody here can answer your second question including @Dr JIM if it indeed isn't used in USP standards. Maybe contact them?

mands

I think you are getting too caught up in generalities. The application we are using the testing for is to determine if said substance in a vial is actually HGH and if so in what quantity. I have yet to see any literature that substantiates AAA as the gold standard for this application and I am pretty sure this is why the it is not part of the USP standards and why the pharm companies don't use it.

 

[mands]

I think you are getting too caught up in generalities. The application we are using the testing for is to determine if said substance in a vial is actually HGH and if so in what quantity. I have yet to see any literature that substantiates AAA as the gold standard for this application and I am pretty sure this is why the it is not part of the USP standards and why the pharm companies don't use it.

I believe the gold standard statement was was referring to quantitative. I'm not 100% certain though.

I am 100% certain the lab that is testing for us is legit and credited.

You can either take my word for it or not. Just another gh thread jacked up once again.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

What a shame you don't understand the difference bt a RESEARCH standard and a Pharm standard! "PHARM standards", if there is such a thing, should NEVER be used to conduct RESEARCH, and I've no doubt that's at least one error you and Janeo have made in those HPLCS.

The fact is youre NOT a research lab but a couple clowns using bogus data to sell product so post the data I've requested and lets find out!

How ironic you and Janeo can pose about being scientists or "almost doctors" and question the data from a bonafied LAB that's CERTIFIED in RESEARCH, CLINICAL and COMMERCIAL analytical testing. What a joke!

The immunoassays performed were performed from a licensed and accredited lab and just happened to give us similar results as the HPLC. Once more you have no idea what we did over at PM and are just grabbing at straws because you have failed in your efforts to correctly test GH on 3 different occasions now.

 

[muscle96ss]

OMG and MH-96 is just an innocent PM bystander with aberrant SIMEC data he just couldn't be a part of. I pity anyone who listens to a word you say MH

Be back

JIM

Funny thing is my words are truth and 99% of the people know it!!

 

[Dr JIM]

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With that said, I don't believe @muscle96ss is being paid by anyone to push hGH because I've paid very close attention. I used to think he was but I now have to admit I don't believe it. .

You could be right BUT it's impossible for me to believe since MH-96 bias is UNDENIABLE!

Review his Meso posts bc they are almost exclusively limited to generic GH testing threads! And he arrives like flies on horses shit flinging the same tired agenda I don't believe that data REGARDLESS.

Oh he has a vested interest alright and its MONETARY

 

[Dr JIM]

The immunoassays performed were performed from a licensed and accredited lab and just happened to give us similar results as the HPLC. Once more you have no idea what we did over at PM and are just grabbing at straws because you have failed in your efforts to correctly test GH on 3 different occasions now.

I don't know yea that right MH, and whose fault is that YOURS and Janoes bc you refuse to follow traditional lab procedure with respect to analytical data and cite all the required evidence. Heck yea way to go MH-96 another HPLC absent a listing of the standard, PATHETIC

An immunoassay was the GOLD standard you and Jano used to calibrate an HPLC, like I said your NO research lab and have no idea WTF you're doing, COL!

Casting doubt that's your mantra on EVERY analytical Meso thread bc you are not in charge, or the results conflict with optimal PM sales, well thank goodness the former will never be the case on Meso!

 

[muscle96ss]

and how do we know what standard they used over at pm, let me guess, it was a vial of greytops, after all, they are the best

The standard is posted over at PM. In addition, a vial Serostim was tested as kind of a check to ensure that the results were correct.

What you are missing here is that not only was HPLC performed on the samples, but all samples were also tested via immunoassay by a highly respected and accredited lab. Coincidentally, the immunoassay results came out very similar to the HPLC. In addition, the Serostim sample came out very close to what it should.

So you can make all kinds of excuses and lies about jano and myself, but people are smarter than that and can see through your ignorance.

 

[muscle96ss]

You may be right BUT MH-96 bias is UNDENIABLE!

Review his posts bc his Meso visits are almost exclusively limited to generic GH testing threads! And he arrive like flies on horses hit with the same agenda I don't believe that data REGARDLESS.

Yes, I am biased towards honesty and the truth. I am a loyal person and will always stick up for what I believe in and little patience for stupidity and ignorance.