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[CdnGuy]

1x - 3000x is not really a narrow quantitative sensitivity in my book.


Oh, you did not manage to catch the irony in that post?

Truly a lost case.



Except there is evidence, it's just you and the public not having it.

Mr. M96ss and Mr. Buck put me through too big of a scrutiny for me to be able to fake anything.

Mr. RP was opposed to using my services at all.

I had to provide a lot of evidence to them, but I will not be providing it to everyone, as I will not be risking my security to be compromised.




1x - 3000x is not really a narrow quantitative sensitivity in my book.



Oh, now you are just trying to make me laught!


Yeah yeah, you've proved it with your knowledge, evidence and factual remarks over and over again... Oh wait.




Also, did I miss anything else?

Excuse me but why is this fuck stick still here again? lol Get lost you little parasite it's clear as day why you're here!!!!!

 

[janoshik]

Also, I believe the term, JIM as an experienced analytical chemist was looking for when he mentioned 'quantitative sensitivity,' is dynamic range.

 

[Kakarot]

Also, I believe the term, JIM as an experienced analytical chemist was looking for when he mentioned 'quantitative sensitivity,' is dynamic range.

Yeah Yeah Yeah wtf ever cunt. You got fire ass research can't post it or show evidence of it but it's fire. Who honestly gives a fuck what you do.

 

[janoshik]

Excuse me but why is this fuck stick still here again? lol Get lost you little parasite it's clear as day why you're here!!!!!

Yeah Yeah Yeah wtf ever cunt. You got fire ass research can't post it or show evidence of it but it's fire. Who honestly gives a fuck what you do.

Don't get too upset guys, it's bad for your blood pressure.

 

[Kakarot]

Don't get too upset guys, it's bad for your blood pressure.

Yeah man your right got to watch that bp. Quick question how does a scientist like your self deal with the obvious dick chafing going on from all those dick ridders you have?

 

[CdnGuy]

Don't get too upset guys, it's bad for your blood pressure.

Upset ? This is me being mellow lol

 

[rpbb]

1x - 3000x is not really a narrow quantitative sensitivity in my book.


Oh, you did not manage to catch the irony in that post?

Truly a lost case.



Except there is evidence, it's just you and the public not having it.

Mr. M96ss and Mr. Buck put me through too big of a scrutiny for me to be able to fake anything.

Mr. RP was opposed to using my services at all.

I had to provide a lot of evidence to them, but I will not be providing it to everyone, as I will not be risking my security to be compromised.




1x - 3000x is not really a narrow quantitative sensitivity in my book.



Oh, now you are just trying to make me laught!


Yeah yeah, you've proved it with your knowledge, evidence and factual remarks over and over again... Oh wait.




Also, did I miss anything else?

not for nothing, but I haven't seen you post anything factual or informative either. you still haven't answered the question of what you use for standards

 

[janoshik]

Yeah man your right got to watch that bp. Quick question how does a scientist like your self deal with the obvious dick chafing going on from all those dick ridders you have?

You sure you did not mistake me with JIM and the guy I'm quoting right next?

not for nothing, but I haven't seen you post anything factual or informative either. you still haven't answered the question of what you use for standards

For standards I use preparations of known concentration of course, my dear bent-over friend.

 

[rpbb]

Don't get too upset guys, it's bad for your blood pressure.

you should be more concerned that all your testing at PM is wrong, because the greytops are underdosed. Oops, I forgot you wanted the tests to be that way, or you wouldn't get PAID

 

[rpbb]

You sure you did not mistake me with JIM and the guy I'm quoting right next?



For standards I use preparations of known concentration of course, my dear bent-over friend.

the gtg bro gear you get at the gym doesn't count as a standard.

 

[janoshik]

the gtg bro gear you get at the gym doesn't count as a standard.

I refuse to believe that the days we live in are the days when I can't even trust the Big Pete from the gym downtown!

 

[muscle96ss]

1) data that can't be disclosed to
the public now who's a part of some "dictatorship"


2) I've heard that before

3) as I've stated in an earlier post that "you obviously ignored" ELISA have very narrow quantitative sensitivity ranges and I suspect that's ONE REASON there are rarely if ever
(I could find NONE) used for analytical GH research.

It's for this reason someone needs to cite the specific ELISA used so I can cross reference it to ensure the manufacturers application guidelines were complied with, which I very much DOUBT!

LC/MS or HPLC require the use of a legitimate standard.IF Janeo used one, first why did he ask for instructions on how to obtain them, and second they are not listed on any of HIS HPLCS as is customary lab practice.

4) Really, darn I forgot to tell you Ive had five other labs that conducted tests on these samples and they ALL arrived at results similar to mine. EVIDENCE ABSENT THE DATA IS NOT EVIDENCE, but rather talk of "trust me" at best.

5) See that's the difference bt you and me I DONT make such assertions wo the evidence to support it, regardless of where it "came from". Yet I wouldn't be at all surprised if the "data" you keep referring to was conducted by the manufacturing plant itself.

Have you ever heard of the "cat guarding the henhouse" colloquialism!

6) I'd suggest you look at all the middlemen to ascertain where all the presupposed "missing GH" is, bc doing so might enable you to use "logic and common sense rather than continue with your paranoid narrative".

The fact is our assays are as accurate as you'll ever see and "that's coming from someone that knows much more about analytical GH testing" than you ever will.

7) Show me a post where I said the Chinese couldn't make legit GH, as I'm fully aware one of the first manufacturers was Chinese.

What I have said holds true to this day. no "UGL" can manufacture GH!

8) Continue on your path of being wrong about these assays bc it's obvious it's something you'll never accept as being legit
SINCE YOUR NOT IN CHARGE or YOURE JUST AN IGNORANT FOOL WHO CANT UNDERSTAND THE TESTING ITSELF. And "your experience on BB forums" won't change that fact.

Jim, perhaps you have forgotten what happened the last time you did testing around a year or so ago. You swore up and down that the testing was legit just the same as you are doing now. You actually tested the greys and they came out to have 2iu. The actual vial you tested that supposedly contained 2iu came from one of my personal kits. I had a serum test done on another vial from the same set of kits and an IGF-1 down the road from the same order. So it was obvious that the vials did not contain 2iu. You also tested pharm Genotropin and it came out to be severely underdosed as well. I asked you a million times to post the standard and after deflecting my requests, you finally agreed and promised to post it. To this date you still have not posted it. In addition, from the charts you posted the serial/code number for the standard was the EXACT same as Karl's GH from a test a year or so prior. You stated that this was just a coincidence that the computer happened to assign the same serial/code number(about the same chance as winning the lottery). This thread still exists if anybody is curious and really wants to go back and read it. So I find it quite ironic that you are non-stop asking about our standard now.

 

[Dr JIM]

Jim, perhaps you have forgotten what happened the last time you did testing around a year or so ago. You swore up and down that the testing was legit just the same as you are doing now. You actually tested the greys and they came out to have 2iu. The actual vial you tested that supposedly contained 2iu came from one of my personal kits. I had a serum test done on another vial from the same set of kits and an IGF-1 down the road from the same order. So it was obvious that the vials did not contain 2iu. You also tested pharm Genotropin and it came out to be severely underdosed as well. I asked you a million times to post the standard and after deflecting my requests, you finally agreed and promised to post it. To this date you still have not posted it. In addition, from the charts you posted the serial/code number for the standard was the EXACT same as Karl's GH from a test a year or so prior. You stated that this was just a coincidence that the computer happened to assign the same serial/code number(about the same chance as winning the lottery). This thread still exists if anybody is curious and really wants to go back and read it. So I find it quite ironic that you are non-stop asking about our standard now.

And that's just another example of your ignorance, using IGF to quantify an unknown generic GH product!

And it took me forever to learn it was USELESS to post evidence bc your mind was made up the minute that thread began MH doesn't believe.

But you still have the gall to raise this as an issue in spite of the FACT you have posted nothing to support that crap you and Jano call evidence.

Youre a self righteous hypocrite!

Go back to your censored broad and preach your broad fund of knowledge to those who will listen.

 

[janoshik]

And that's just another example of your ignorance, using IGF to quantify an unknown generic GH product!

Nice response to the actual issue raised. Totally not a deflection.

 

[janoshik]

And that's just another example of your ignorance, using IGF to quantify an unknown generic GH product!

And it took me forever to learn it was USELESS to post evidence but you still have the gall to raise this as an issue
in spite of the FACT you have posted nothing to support that crap you and Jano call evidence.

Your a self righteous hypocrite!

You truly are a master of edits.

So please.

You are saying that it's useless to post evidence... And in the next sentence you call us out on not supplying the evidence - all while calling us hypocrites? lol, something certainly doesn't add up in your brain it seems, JIM

 

[muscle96ss]

Muscle96,
I mean this respectively, but you come off as a righteous person in your post, which is fine, but don't you see a contradiction in your stance since you frequent a site that censors information in support of commerce?

We live in a society where there is censorship, politics, greed, and corruption that surrounds us on a daily basis. We do the best we can each day and make the best of what we have. There are pros and cons to every board and the pros to PM far exceeds the cons because of the quality of posts and posters on the forums. I am into the science and nutrition heavily and guys like stewie, gotgame, kaladryn, LK3, MD, etc.. are people I idolize and follow. I have not found another board out there that compares in terms of the quality of the content for what I am looking for. And like I stated previously, I rarely use the sponsors there and do my best to expose those that I know are bad. In fact that was the whole point of the HGH Testing thread that RP started, to learn more about GH and who was supplying what. It blossomed into people wanting more than serums and IGF-1's and therefore we went the route of lab testing. So, I don't really see a contradiction. I don't support scammers and do everything I can to expose them.

 

[muscle96ss]

And that's just another example of your ignorance, using IGF to quantify an unknown generic GH product!

And it took me forever to learn it was USELESS to post evidence but you still have the gall to raise this as an issue
in spite of the FACT you have posted nothing to support that crap you and Jano call evidence.

Your a self righteous hypocrite!

Go back to your censored broad and preach your broad fund of knowledge to those who will listen.

So Jim, you are stating that if I do a 1 vial serum test and get say a 24.7 and then do an IGF-1 test on 4iu a day and get an IGF-1 of around 400 and it turns out that the vials only contained 2iu(and not 10) and therefore I was injecting .8iu per day; those numbers don't tell you that something is wrong? Who is the ignorant one here? Come on man, thats ridiculous!! Like I said before, you know nothing about GH and real world.

 

[fastasf]

the gtg bro gear you get at the gym doesn't count as a standard.

Serious question, do you believe you are contributing anything to this thread? If so, I promise you that you are not. Please kindly stfu and let the adults talk.

 

[janoshik]

And that's just another example of your ignorance, using IGF to quantify an unknown generic GH product!

And it took me forever to learn it was USELESS to post evidence bc your mind was made up the minute that thread began MH doesn't believe.

But you still have the gall to raise this as an issue in spite of the FACT you have posted nothing to support that crap you and Jano call evidence.

Youre a self righteous hypocrite!

Go back to your censored broad and preach your broad fund of knowledge to those who will listen.

You actually managed another edit, I am astonished!

Wouldn't sending people with differing opinions away kinda ruin that magic of the uncensored and unmoderated board? lol

 

[Dr JIM]

So Jim, you are stating that if I do a 1 vial serum test and get say a 24.7 and then do an IGF-1 test on 4iu a day and get an IGF-1 of around 400 and it turns out that the vials only contained 2iu(and not 10) and therefore I was injecting .8iu per day; those numbers don't tell you that something is wrong? Who is the ignorant one here? Come on man, thats ridiculous!! Like I said before, you know nothing about GH and real world.

Let me see you post evidence MH an IGF level can be used to quantify GH at a level of sensitivity that is achieved with in-vitro assays, including ELISA. If I recall correctly you have said GH levels or "GH bloods" can be used for similar purposes, and "THAT''S RIDICULOUS"!

Your "example" is classic bro-science; using a theoretic dose, on a single person for an unknown duration, and then drawing conclusions based on an EXPERIENCE OF ONE!

You havent the faintest idea how to interpret legitimate evidence based research and as a result reject that which you don't understand, substituting your experience in its stead, classic bro-science.