THE new "Generic" HGH Assay PAGE! AAA testing

[muscle96ss]

Let me see you post evidence MH an IGF level can be used to quantify GH at a level of sensitivity that is achieved with in-vitro assays, including ELISA. If I recall correctly you have said GH levels can be used for similar purposes, and TAHT'S RIDICULOUS!

NOOO!!! Jim what I am saying is that I take 4iu per day of pharma GH like Serostim and I do a serum GH and an IGF-1. I then do the same for the greys tops. I compare the numbers for the Serostim and they are no different than the greys. Then you tell me the greys are severely underdosed and only contain 2iu per vial and not 10iu. Now Jim, please don't tell me that you aren't capable of comprehending the fact that this is not possible. Lets cut the bullshit and games; you are making yourself look like an idiot!!

 

[Dr JIM]

You can do it anyway you like but proving a cause and effect relationship would, at the very least, require testing the VIAL CONTENTS, and that you will never understand, bc YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

Are you still telling bros they need "GH bloods" to determine the quality of the generics they are purchasing on PM, LOL! Of course not Jim I now have "janeo", as "he will explain all the technical stuff", God forbid.

 

[janoshik]

So in your opinion, JIM, it is not possible to expect a rise in IGF levels from HGH and it is absolutely not dose dependent?

 

[Dr JIM]

So in your opinion, JIM, it is not possible to expect a rise in IGF levels from HGH and it is absolutely not dose dependent?

I was once told "there are no stupid questions", they were WRONG!

 

[janoshik]

So you refuse to answer?

Is it because you are ashamed of your opinion or is it because you can't find your way getting out of this?

 

[rpbb]

So you refuse to answer?

Is it because you are ashamed of your opinion or is it because you can't find your way getting out of this?

More deflection and twisting of facts I see. you guys have no studies or facts to back up anything you are saying

 

[Dr JIM]

Understand bc we are talking about a self indulging pri-maddona who doesn't like the importance of his opinion being overlooked or disputed, any Meso member who is considering GH testing should EXPECT an "I don't believe" from MH UNLESS the following criteria are complied with;

- MH must first be ASKED if he is "OK" with you testing some GH?

- Should he agree and allow you to proceed with such an endeavor, next MH will require full disclosure of the lab YOU intend to use.

- MH will then have to approve of the lab, yet will have long ago suggested YOU use HIS "independent" facilities

- Should he finally relent and allow YOU to use the lab of YOUR choice, MH must review and approve of the results before publication on Meso (and I guarantee you that WONT HAPPEN if they deviate from "his unpublished results", which for all intents and purposes approximates >95% of whatever is listed on the label)

- Finally MH must provide you with a written consent to publish on Meso, sorry Millard

Once word gets out on PM someone on Meso has published GH sample data that deviates from what is listed on PM, MH and his know nothing sidekick Janeo will pay you and your thread a vista do whatever it takes to discredit YOU and/or YOUR data. It's called PM censorship by proxy!

Also know this the type of testing MANDS and I are doing is NOT that expensive ranging between $100 to $150 dollars per sample, its an excellent investment in what we all care about, OUR HEALTH!

These PM clowns DONT WANT YOU to test their GH and that IMO is obvious based on the number of roadblocks they have used to discourage it.

 

[rpbb]

So you refuse to answer?

Is it because you are ashamed of your opinion or is it because you can't find your way getting out of this?

It's because it's a stupid question.

 

[rpbb]

NOOO!!! Jim what I am saying is that I take 4iu per day of pharma GH like Serostim and I do a serum GH and an IGF-1. I then do the same for the greys tops. I compare the numbers for the Serostim and they are no different than the greys. Then you tell me the greys are severely underdosed and only contain 2iu per vial and not 10iu. Now Jim, please don't tell me that you aren't capable of comprehending the fact that this is not possible. Lets cut the bullshit and games; you are making yourself look like an idiot!!

Muscle, you still haven't answered why the grey tops are underdosed

 

[rpbb]

So Jim, you are stating that if I do a 1 vial serum test and get say a 24.7 and then do an IGF-1 test on 4iu a day and get an IGF-1 of around 400 and it turns out that the vials only contained 2iu(and not 10) and therefore I was injecting .8iu per day; those numbers don't tell you that something is wrong? Who is the ignorant one here? Come on man, thats ridiculous!! Like I said before, you know nothing about GH and real world.

This whole line of discussion has nothing to do with this thread. it's just more ways to divert attention from the lab testing that is going on here, and the fact that the grey tops you are always pushing were underdosed and my guess inconsistent from batch to batch

 

[rpbb]

So you refuse to answer?

Is it because you are ashamed of your opinion or is it because you can't find your way getting out of this?

you still haven't answered any question ever presented to you.

 

[muscle96ss]

This thread is useless. You 2 are completely incapable of having a normal discussion. Its obvious you have no intention of doing anything productive here other than making complete asses of yourselves. Anybody reading this can see this easily.

 

[Just Fish]

I am ok with the greys being slightly under dosed. Real gh that is safe for that price is fine by me.

 

[muscle96ss]

I am ok with the greys being slightly under dosed. Real gh that is safe for that price is fine by me.

Trust me, they are not underdosed!!

I use them personally and would not use underdosed GH.

 

[Dr JIM]

It's because it's a stupid question.

Should we post the GH/IGF dose response curve I cited awhile back again? NOPE!

Heck I'm willing to wager almost ANY Meso member who has used GH KNOWS the answer to that question and to think Janeo once referred to himself as a "doctor of sorts".

I find it best to allow frauds like Janeo to continue with such endless drivel bc it wont be long before he; "opens mouth and inserts foot", much like he did when inquiring about the acquisition of standards.

 

[Dr JIM]

This thread is useless. You 2 are completely incapable of having a normal discussion. Its obvious you have no intention of doing anything productive here other than making complete asses of yourselves. Anybody reading this can see this easily.

The only "productive discussion" is one you're leading and have control over, so if your don't like the content or the participants LEAVE. You wont be missed I promise!

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I am into the science and nutrition heavily and guys like stewie, gotgame, kaladryn, LK3, MD, etc.. are people I idolize and follow.

If you idolize these guys, maybe you should listen to them. Kaladryn thinks Jano is full of shit and told him so. On ProMuscle, no less!

 

[muscle96ss]

The only "productive discussion" is one you're leading and have control over, so if your don't like the content or the participants LEAVE. You wont be missed I promise!

Why does anybody have to be leading or have control? Thats the problem, you don't seem to understand how people talk to each other. Do you talk to your patients like this?

 

[muscle96ss]

If you idolize these guys, maybe you should listen to them. Kaladryn thinks Jano is full of shit and told him so. On ProMuscle, no less!

Just because you idolized someone does not mean that you agree with everything they say or their stance on every issue.

 

[Dr JIM]

If you idolize these guys, maybe you should listen to them. Kaladryn thinks Jano is full of shit and told him so. On ProMuscle, no less!

Now whoever that is knows a fraud when he "sees one", but do that shit again Kal and
well, it's off to Siberia for you haha!

IDOLIZE = to regard with blind and excessive adoration

So much so, that pertinent facts can be overlooked, discounted or deemed irrelevant!
One things for sure, if you "idolize" Janeo PM and its members are in deep shit from an evidence based perspective!