The road to 1500..

[Perrin Aybara]

15,000+ pounds of deadlift volume in one session, nice. Took me awhile to get to where I could do set after set of deads like that, giving up natty status helped tremendously, but it's done wonders for my pulling strength. That's where I think running The Texas Method failed me on deadlift, way too low of volume on it.

 

[ruckin]

15,000+ pounds of deadlift volume in one session, nice. Took me awhile to get to where I could do set after set of deads like that, giving up natty status helped tremendously, but it's done wonders for my pulling strength. That's where I think running The Texas Method failed me on deadlift, way too low of volume on it.

If I ever use the TM again I think I'd include volume deadlifts on the high volume day. It would be tough to pull off as a drug free athlete, but as an enhanced lifter I think that would be very doable.


Edit: now that I think about it, that's pretty much what I'm doing with my deads right now.

 

[jaymaximus]

15,000+ pounds of deadlift volume in one session, nice. Took me awhile to get to where I could do set after set of deads like that, giving up natty status helped tremendously, but it's done wonders for my pulling strength. That's where I think running The Texas Method failed me on deadlift, way too low of volume on it.

I felt the same way about TM. My squat and bench were great, but didnt work enough on DL and it stalled.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

If I ever use the TM again I think I'd include volume deadlifts on the high volume day. It would be tough to pull off as a drug free athlete, but as an enhanced lifter I think that would be very doable.


Edit: now that I think about it, that's pretty much what I'm doing with my deads right now.

Funny thing is I ran this advanced TM template at the end that was very similar to that DUP I did last year and it ran me into the ground and I actually regressed a little, but I knew 100% it was solid if I could just recover a little more. Fast forward to being enhanced and I made all kinds of gains with a similar template. I think it was just that giving each day its own heavy day and volume day never allowed me to recover as a natty.

I hit 555 at my first meet and started TM right after and the six or seven months I ran it I never surpassed that pull.

Recently my template was pretty much two deadlift volume days, one lighter with no AMRAP and the other heavy with an AMRAP at the end. So kind of volume + intensity on that day.

I agree with you though, that's the only way to run TM. I started doing that eventually, but I just wasn't able to progress any more with it. Squats went up a lot and maybe it was just that it was a squat focused program and there wasn't enough recovery or attention to deadlift.

 

[theprodgicalson]

2-17

Bench 340 9RPE (PR)
1 set 3 reps

10%drop
305 8RPE till 9RPE
3 sets 3 reps

Box Squats 400 9RPE
1 set 3 reps

10% Drop
360 8RPE till 9RPE
2 sets 3 reps

SOHP 185 9RPE
1 set 7 reps
rep drop
2 sets 5 reps

Everything felt great yesterday which was surprising as i spent majority of the day in a car. i supposed the wendys triple Baconator might have helped me be a tad more anabolic.. or some shit.

 

[theprodgicalson]

well, when i got home thursday after mobility work and cardio i felt really sick. spent the night throwing up and all of friday, saturday and sunday in the bathroom. dropped 7 pounds down to 232. ate 650g of carbs monday and 400 prior to the gym yesterday in hopes to restore some energy levels and glycogen stores.

2-23

Deadlifts 565 9RPE (was a 10)
1 set 2.5reps
got the third one up past my knees and just let it go. wasnt in the mood for a grinder.

505 8 RPE till 9RPE
3 sets 3 reps

Pin Press 315 8RPE till 9RPE
3 sets 5 reps

Deficit Deadlift 495 9RPE
1 set 5 reps

445 8RPE till 9RPE
3 sets 5 reps

All in all a solid session considering everything.

 

[theprodgicalson]

2-24

Bench 300 6RPE till 9RPE
10 sets 2 reps

Box Squats 400 9RPE
1 set 3 reps

10%drop 360
2 sets 3 reps

SOHP 175 9RPE
1 set 7 reps

rep drop
2 sets 5 reps

i was BEAT during the box squats from the previous days deads. glad i have today off.

 

[theprodgicalson]

2-26

squats 385 8RPE till 9RPE
3 sets 5 reps

failed on the 3rd set 5th rep. did something to my hip abductor/IT band. will be taking a break from squats till it feels better. only discomfort is when im weight bearing and walking up stairs.

Stiff Leg Deadlift 495 9RPE till 10RPE
2sets 1 rep

Hack Squats
didnt bother doing then as i knew they were going to cause more discomfort

2-27

Bench 335 8RPE
1 set 3 reps

Squats
didnt do

Deadlifts 535 8RPE
1 set 3 reps

2-29

Deadlifts 495 6RPE till 9RPE
9 sets 2 reps

Bench with bands 215 + band tension 8RPE til 9RPE
3 sets 5 reps

Koklyaev Deadlift 455 9RPE
1 set 5 reps

10%Drop 410 8RPE til 9RPE
3 sets 5 reps

 

[Perrin Aybara]

535x3@8 = 600x1@9.5-10

Soon...

 

[theprodgicalson]

535x3@8 = 600x1@9.5-10

Soon...

which calculator do you use? the wendler calc i use puts that at 624 1RM

 

[Perrin Aybara]

which calculator do you use? the wendler calc i use puts that at 624 1RM

It's just called 1RM calculator.

 

[ruckin]

It's just called 1RM calculator.

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My 1rm calculator gives me 602 for this also, but I've found through experience that it isn't accurate for deadlifts.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

You might be closer though, I just looked at my log and I did 540 3x2 and 540x3 two weeks out from the meet. 535x5 is probably well over 600.

 

[jaymaximus]

It's just called 1RM calculator.

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I use the same calculator

 

[Perrin Aybara]

My 1rm calculator gives me 602 for this also, but I've found through experience that it isn't accurate for deadlifts.

I can usually pull more on a max, you too? I think my PR before my first meet was only 495x3-4 and I managed 555.

 

[theprodgicalson]

thanks guys, ill switch over to that app and use it instead.

i actually found the wendler app to be accurate with deadlifts. with everything else it would over shoot it. so i think this other app will be more beneficial

 

[ruckin]

I can usually pull more on a max, you too? I think my PR before my first meet was only 495x3-4 and I managed 555.

I've found that calculator to be pretty accurate for stuff like squat and bench, but I guess for the deadlift people generally need a slightly lower intensity to get X number of reps than they would for the squat. So yeah I can generally pull a little more than the calculator predicts.

 

[ruckin]

I just checked with the wendler formula online and it predicted my deadlift max from entering 500x5 to be 583, which sounds very accurate. Seems to me that wendler is good for deads, other calculator is good for everything else.

 

[theprodgicalson]

You might be closer though, I just looked at my log and I did 540 3x2 and 540x3 two weeks out from the meet. 535x5 is probably well over 600.

i was thinking about this today, and i dont think we are taking into account the deload/fatigue wear off of peaking. i was also talking to someone yesterday and came to the realization that with my programming, my hamstrings are, and have been, worked 4 times a week for weeks on end. which will start tapering down here really soon, but i think there is a whole other variable when it comes to these calculators with fatigue.

and while i havent competed yet, from everything ive been told, the deadlift in particular is a very high intensity/amped up lift at a meet. so the energy boost and adrenaline rush is another factor to take into account.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

i was thinking about this today, and i dont think we are taking into account the deload/fatigue wear off of peaking. i was also talking to someone yesterday and came to the realization that with my programming, my hamstrings are, and have been, worked 4 times a week for weeks on end. which will start tapering down here really soon, but i think there is a whole other variable when it comes to these calculators with fatigue.

and while i havent competed yet, from everything ive been told, the deadlift in particular is a very high intensity/amped up lift at a meet. so the energy boost and adrenaline rush is another factor to take into account.

Yeah, that's true. The fatigue variable doesn't seem like it can by calculated very easily if at all. It's just going to come down to experience.

I stayed very calm before my lifts at the meet. Didn't get hyped at all or use ammonia for the first two attempts of each lift. I think this was very beneficial during a very long day of lifting. I was shocked how easy my third went up. Looking at the videos the bar speed is the same as the second and I probably had 10-15 more pounds that day if I'd have went for it. Huge difference on the platform for me, super focused and form felt textbook.

The fatigue though I guess it depends on the amount and for how long it's been accumulated. Adds some pounds for sure, how many is hard to say until you step up there yourself and pull it. By how my second attempt felt my third should have been all I had, but when it came around it was easy and I had more for sure. I also suck at RPE, so you may have an advantage there.