The truth about Hardasnails1973

[coolcat20]

Please please please be careful of Hardasnails and Overbeck, there have been lots of documented cases of EXTREMELY unhappy people who went to see him (he's not a doctor, and he advertises 'overbeck' on almost every single "male issue" forum.) This guy is a complete hack and there are many posts over on MESO about his dealings, unethical and i would say bordering on malpractise. He has been caught in many lies and has NEVER once defended himself, merely just ignores the posts questioning him. Overbeck isnt even a legitamite HRT doctor, the only reason he's included is to 'keep it legal', as he's an MD. HAN scours the various mens health forums, see's what doctors such as Dr crisler and Mariano are posting, and just incorporates it in his own forum vocabulary to sound more trustworthy and knowledgeable.

Do you have methylation issues?

how about gut dysbiosis?

oh wait its the deep tissue mercury which is hiding under the biofilm which is causing you problems!

oh nevermind its your neurotransmitters which i will solve with cruddy supplements that dont actually work.




He 'may' have good intentions but he is not a doctor and he will gladly take your money for a consultation fee and should you get into more trouble via his advice (which a few people have cared to post on MESO), he'll leave you in the dirt. Be warned and make sure you do background checks. He has also been known to coax the forum members who 'consulted' with him to leave positive feedback on the forums so he can gain some new customers.


You guys should see his many posts, there's some gems where he brags about going to lecture At anti aging conferences, and advising LEF's president to change their formulations etc etc just really crazy crap that nobody believes.


You can read this thread over on muscle chat room concerning him, starting at page 8

http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15808&page=8


Heres another thread over on muscle chat room asking why he feels so shitty going off DHEA

http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14389


Basically trying to get advice from Dr John / members of musclechatroom about T4 - T3 conversion

http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13908


Here is one of a few threads About HAN over at MESO mens health forum

Dr J Crisler



Heres a quote made by him in that thread which shows you what he cares about:

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973
DR J and DR M are not hormone specialist either they are DO and MD's.

More you talk trash about us more people come to us so keep it up

Heres a longer thread over on MESO, where a user by the name of 'bigpete757' explains how HAN and Dr O have BADLY SCREWED UP his case and how he could have died from their advice....

Bringing natural medicine to bodybuilding


Quote by Mrevis - Dr. Mariano or Dr. Crisler? - Page 4

I've seen some doctors who were considered to be some of the best in the business and they don't compare to Dr. Mariano. He is in a different league for sure. I can't believe that Dr. Overbeck even gets mentioned or compared to Dr. Mariano or Dr. John.

He is nowhere close to being as good even though he's advertised to be.....keyword "advertised." There is a night and day difference when speaking to Overbeck on the phone for a follow up and speaking with Mariano. Dr. Mariano is way more informative when you ask him a question. His answers are mind blowing. Overbeck would give very vague answers and many times I got the feeling he was bullshitting me cause he could not figure out what was wrong. I've spoken to others who have seen him and felt the same way. You ask Overbeck a question, HAN and him mute the conference call, then he comes back and answers your question. Unfortunately for them on a few occasions where he tried to mute the call it did not mute and I would here HAN telling him how to answer the question. I'm know that there are others who had experienced this before. Something just does not feel right with those guys. I'm sure they have helped others, but when the going gets tough or complicated they really don't have the experience that Mariano or Crisler to fix it.

Theres alot of other stories by other members post, things like when theyre in a conference call with you (you/dr o / hans), you'll ask a question, they'll MUTE THEIR LINE, han will tell DR O what to say, then DR o will repeat it to you (usuually some sort of nonsense such as "You need more SAM-E") Shady as all hell.

Listen guys, i know most of you are desperate and its really tempting to shell out your dough for his 'help' as he promises answers for ALL of your issues, but let's be honest here -- this guy is nothing but a former steroid abuser who screwed himself up and then spent countless hours on these forums as a victim himself, picked up the lingo, likes to think of himself as a 'researcher' and a 'clinician' when really he just copies whatever the hell other MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS are posting, and then uses it on his 'patients', Hes not a doctor nor is he close to one. Im not really surprised that hes a 'trusted' member of the forums; give everyone a little bit of advice for free, then get them brainwashed and pay you for a 'consultation', eventually someone will sue him, but its a low risk since everyone is sick and just want to get better instead of wasting energy on that i suppose... He prays on desperate people on many forums like a hawk, which is why you see him trolling all the major mens health forums, i bet you 30% of his posts are advertising in nature -- out of a total 30,000+


Now he may have helped people here and there (Even a broken clock is right twice a day), but they would likely have the same or better result with a legitimate doctor, and dont listen to this 'dr overbeck is the BEST on the east coast' hype, Thats NONSENSE started by and perpetuated by Hardasnails, Nobody knows who the HELL overbeck is in the medical world, he's not even a hormone doctor nor is he an authority on any of the issues many people here suffer, he just started magically gaining popularity once HAN started spamming his name as being the next messiah over on these mens health forums. Remember, this is a guy who actually reccomended to get BLOOD SPOT TESTING DONE (via ZRT). Where you prick yourself and drip blood on a testing strip and mail it to a laboratory. Normal testing at real labs is always going to have ~10-20% error, can you imagine this Do it yourself testing being accurate? Dr crisler corroborates this and outed ZRT as a scam.

Originally Posted by mmg44
I actually recall reading a post by him on another board praising ipamorelin and how great it was for trt etc. Then a month later he is saying how it fried his adrenals and no one should take it without having perfect adrenal health. Anyone can recommend every supplement under the sun and its actually quite Un professional imo in how he jumps into threads and throws his nonsensical posts in only to advertise himself.

And you're right, i do have a huge problem; one with PHONY fucks on health forums BILKING desperate people out of their money with promises of a cure to their problems which no other doctor knows how to solve since they dont "identify the issue in dept". Can HAN even legally refer to people as his 'patients'???

You shut yourself down from steroid abuse and screwed your system up and you said yourself how you're $60,000 in debt from all of the medical bills over the years. Gee guys, i wonder how he's recouping that back.... hmmmm


You also have delusions of grandeur as evidenced by various tidbits littered throughout your posts on various forums -- I.E How you're going to be a naturopath, how you have a doctorate, how you're training top doctors around the world, how you've discovered new 'methylation healing' techniques, how you're the top authority on gut dysbiosis, how you're giving lectures at major conferences, how you're going about doing scientific research and how close you are to the cure for autism but wont post any information because it will get stolen like it has in the past (LOL) The list goes on bro. you post so much crazy shit that you're apparently 'discovering' that nobody can take you seriously anymore bro....

Originally Posted by anonymous
HAHA. I have actually seen him in person, He convinced me to see him and Dr. Overbeck last year.

I flew up there and didn't really get much resolution, except for about 6k worth of labs showing that I have hypogonadism.

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973
Source - - Doctor won't help!!

The truth being is that I used muscle testing to identify the areas of imbalances. Dr's think this is bull shit, but I have changed many MD;s opions about it when I told them to check specific things checked out from my quick assessment. They reported back to me HOW DID YOU KNOW.?...Again verified by clincal testing. I suspected specific food allergies before clinical testing. and pin pointed to the T what type of allergies they where. Being african american descent was the biggest red flag which I explained to him reasoning why. Treatment was non meds just identifying nutrient imbalances and finding out why and what he was deficient. His testosterone shot from 363 to 766 with these recommendations. Every one body is different and specific treatment is individualized based. He is typical example of balnacing out the body uinderstanding nutrition and enzymatic reactions resuilted in not needing any meds which typical endos would have started him on androgel. I am getting so proficient at this that I can o second nature. I have a God given gift to have a patient with in 15 minutes by examining them through tongue, eyes, finger lips, energetic field pin, facial structure come up a picture what may be the source of the problems and then write it down on a paper have them get tested then come back to compare the results. Accuracy rate is >95% backed by clincal testing. Balancing Hormone, adrenal, thyroid brain chemistry, gut issues I can literally do in my sleep. Ttechniques I learned are nol taught only to a certain select few because they are not taught to outsiders.

Yep, a god given gift, guys



Further proof that HAN is a total fraud

August 2009 Here he posts that "Now I am less then 6 months away from getting my Doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine." in the link below, obviously this hasn't happened and most likely never will lol

http://www.chronicfatiguetreatments.com/forums/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-research-f6/topic928.html

(Same exact post copy pasted here : spam more forums = get more customers, Thread: What really is CFS and FM at CFS, ME, CFIDS Alternatives Support (ThreadID: 1469346))

Notice his "list" of items #1 to 36 of what hes picked up, notice that theres no way he typed that because he has the grammar of a 12 year old kid.

He says "It took me 2 years to master these interaction below. I am always continuing to learn more."

The man he ripped that list off in order to sound more credible was none other than DR MARIANO

Doctors/anyone please... Testosterone and neurotranmitters

3rd Post down, same exact list posted 2006, COMPLETE COPY PASTE


HANS letter to Oprah "wimphrey"
My letter to Oprah




This is literally just the tip of the iceberg. Theres really so much more than can be dug up its borderline ludicrous, i hope this thread educates people on this guy. Many people will have blinders on because they're led to believe that HAN is their bringer of health, therefore their mind cant post anything negative about him because hes the one thats supposedly healing them, sort of an unconscious self rationalization. Han is still periodically posting about his health problems and experimentation with various meds, yet he's the expert that's supposed to solve your most complex cases? RIGHT


To those who would still like to consult with HAN he charges around 250$ for your first skype consultation and 150$ thereafter. [)]

 

[cvictorg]

http://matrixhealthwell.com/staff
Shawn possesses a Bachelor of Science in Kinesiology from West Chester University and has earned numerous certifications from the World Institute of Integrative Health Science to include:
Auricular Therapy
Ayurvedic Pulse Analysis
Clinical Procedure
Clinical Hypnotherapy
Hair Analysis
Herbology
Homeopathy
Iridology
Masters Therapeutic Protocols
Neuro-linguistic Programming
Nutrition Analysis
Stress and Pain Management
Neuro-Endocrono-Immunology

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/shawn-bean/b/423/143
Owner
Matrix Health and Wellness
February 2005 – Present (7 years 6 months) Greater Philadelphia Area

Currently working with Dr's on complex medical cases that go beyond the normal scope of traditional medicine. By examining a individual's lifestyle, nutrition, hidden stresses, hormonal imbalances, as well spiritual and neurological content, one can get a better understanding of the actual cause of a medical issue. Traditional medicine looks at the symptoms, but rarely actually confronts the causes to a person's underlying condition.
Physician Consultant
Dr Michael Overbeck
2007 – 2011 (4 years)

So it looks looks he is no longer associated with Dr Overbeck

 

[cvictorg]

http://www.wcupa.edu/_academics/healthsciences/kinesiology/default.asp
Undergraduate degree programs available through the Department of Kinesiology are: K-12 Health and Physical Education Teacher Certification; Fitness Specialist; Pre Physical Therapy; Pre-Occupational Therapy and Pre-Chiropractic Therapy. Areas of specialization offered are minors in: Athletic Coaching; Physical Education for Individuals with Disabilities and Exercise Science for teachers and non-majors.

World Institute of Integrative Health Science doesn't even have a functioning website
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[coolcat20]

I should mention i copied and paste this from the original thread that was moved from the forum, i was thinking of seeing HAN and i googled 'hardasnails1973' first thing that came up was this post so i thought the guys in the health forum should see this. No fucking way i am putting any money his way.

 

[sako]

sweet, glad my post is helping people years down the line.

I like how he deleted his letter to oprah "wimphrey".

That one was the best. Good to see you start censoring yourself, shawn

 

[coolcat20]

sweet, glad my post is helping people years down the line.

I like how he deleted his letter to oprah "wimphrey".

That one was the best. Good to see you start censoring yourself, shawn

[)][)][)]

 

[hardasnails1973]

These post are several.years old. Lol. If you are going to.bring up dirt get something recent least for gods sakes...pretty.pathetic people have to troll for.stuff years old..

 

[hardasnails1973]

Yep working with Overbeck, and other cases with Dr. Shippen, several.nd,do, and other mds,top hrt specialists across the united states. Actually Overbeck and I are booked for next.month. Plus i am working another Dr affiliated with Philadelphia professional Sports team and also pediatricians i.am.working with cases of autistic children..

 

[coolcat20]

Yep working with Overbeck, and other cases with Dr. Shippen, several.nd,do, and other mds,top hrt specialists across the united states. Actually Overbeck and I are booked for next.month. Plus i am working another Dr affiliated with Philadelphia professional Sports team and also pediatricians i.am.working with cases of autistic children..

You just can't help but advertise yourself can you? [)]

 

[sako]

same shit, different heap

 

[sako]

Here's shawn proudly presenting his letter to mrs wimphrey.

Did the nice mailman give you a lollypop and a pat on the head when you handed it over to him?

My name is Shawn Bean and I am currently in school studying to be a naturopathic physician. I graduated with my undergraduate degree from West Chester University, with a BS in Kinesiology and Nutrition, while also having an extensive background in Naturopathic Medicine, Herbs, and studies of Culture’s Nutritional Patterns. Being involved with athletics since an early age, I have always been fascinated by the human body by thinking of how to make it quicker, faster, and stronger through natural means. As a bodybuilder, personal trainer, nutritional consultant for (15) years, and an athlete all my life, I have had the privilege to work next to some of the biggest names in the sport. I am not telling you all of this to gloat about myself, but to share with you that through my experiences; I have came to see unfortunately, patients many times are just treated by “symptoms” rather than the “cause”. I have seen this time after time, with the patients that come to me. As a professional, this really irks me that patients are being treated like this, and after them spending there life fortune in many cases, they still have no treatment that has been productive with their issue and they feel helpless with no clue what to do next, which results in “doctor hopping”, to try to find a physician that will listen to him/her of what is going on with their body. I believe the patient knows best of what truly is going on within their body when they try to describe what is going on. For several years now, I have been following your issue of weight gain and loss, and with all your personal frustration that you have experienced with this, I have also seen this in many other individual’s lives that I have seen and are currently seeing. I am here to tell you that I truly believe that you, and many other individuals experiencing this misfortune, can get past this as soon as you educate yourself realizing that in many cases no matter what you do, nothing will change with your body if you either have a hormonal issue or hold anger and resentment deep within your subconscious, which will not allow you to progress until in some cases, issues are resolved. I know this may sound cookey, but I seriously have seen this be the reason in many cases.
I am writing you this letter with 2 reasons at mind. The first to share a story with you on a personal note of how my fiancée has had the same issue with her weight gain and loss, as you and many other individuals in this world. My second is to give you brief information of my knowledge and how I believe many individuals can have hope to get better, if treated properly and educated.
My fiancée has been going through weight issues for years while physicians have been telling her its all in her head and her labs are "normal". Their resolution was to go seek
Psychological Counseling. The ironic thing is that she is currently in Graduate School to be a Psychologist. As a Professional Nutrition & Fitness Consultant, my colleague, which is a Medical Doctor and I, deal with a lot of metabolic issues within the clinic. A lot of our patients are one that have been to doctor after doctor, with no resolution. My fiancée was one of those individuals. She has been working out and eating properly for years and has not been able to loose weight. She is very determined, but frustrated than ever. Working as a consultant for the clinic, I was furious with the physicians handling her issues. She would call me on her way home from her physician appointments crying, sharing with me that the physician did nothing and it was a waste of time. I decided enough was enough, and began to do my own testing on her with a medical physician over seeing it.
I believe due to modern day lifestyles and stress today our bodies are under, we tend to over tax our body. Over stressing the body can result in the body using up vital nutrients and minerals at an alarming rate. I found this to be true with my fiancée’s situation. After I ran a intracellular testing on her minerals, which reflects back to a time frame of 3-6 months, I came to see that my hypothesis was not incorrect, but right on target. A simple multivitamin she was taking was not being absorbed within her body and her body was using up certain nutrients faster then others. This had nothing to do with the vitamin brand, but how her body absorbed this particular type. Every individual’s body may respond differently to each pill or multivitamin he/she takes. The second test I had ran on her was a 24 hour urine hormone profile. The secret to this test in women is to run it at specific times. For women that are having periods, it needs to be ran during the luteal phase of the cycle (preferable 17-22 days). I know it may be inconvenient for people on the go, but it will be the most valuable test that could save a woman's life. I’ll further explain. For women that are on bioidentical hormones, it may give a better understanding of why they may not be responding, or explain further side effects that she may currently have or have had experienced. From these results, I have started her on a program to help her loose weight from finding out the hormonal, nutritional imbalances within her body.
Once the results were in, she felt relieved having answers. She knew her body and knew that something was not right. She was also angered by the fact of how many physicians did not spend the time looking into her situation, but rather just refer her to see a psychologist to deal with stress issues they assumed she had in her life, even after she told them that she didn’t, anymore than any human being. I came to find out after having her tested that what may be normal in the blood test, may not actually reflect what is happening at the tissue. The over all results concluded that due to her body being out of balance from the elevated estrogen to progesterone ratio, her estrogen was causing her extreme hair loss and elevated cortisol levels (not shown in the blood test, but in the urine test). Without the proper estrogen to progesterone ratio the thyroid hormone is not getting to the tissue, resulting in hypothyroid symptoms that she has been accruing.
I hope you find this information helpful in your quest for proper weight loss. Another thing that I want to emphasize is why women gain weight as they get older. The explanation is simple, in that it is called “survival”. Women's estrogen production decreases as they get older and in order to compensate for this, the female body starts to store fat. That is right...you store fat because
this results in the body increasing production of the enzyme called “aromatase”. “Aromatase” is the enzyme that converts estrogen from “DHEA” and “testosterone”.
We need to make the medical community understand that just examining the thyroid by using standard TSH serum means nothing. In order to get a true reading and functionality of the thyroid, the physician has to examine the “Free Hormone Levels” vs. the “Total”. To explain it in an easy way think of it this way:
You have a whole pie which is cut into 8 pieces, then you have to serve that pie to 8 people, unfortunately you can only serve 4 pieces of that pie. What happens? You have 4 other people that will not receive a piece of the pie. This is what is actually happening to your hormones in your thyroid. You may have total number “t4” but only a low percentage of it is available to be utilized by your body. Your thyroid produces “ t4” and ”t3”. One may have a high total number, but your free levels may be low. Another factor physicians need to rule out is what could be blocking the hormone from being activated at the tissue level. Women that have higher estrogen and cortisol levels may produce a hormone called “TBG”, which can actually block the already low “Free Level” of thyroid from carrying out their function at the tissue level. To add more insult, the body can start producing antibodies against thyroid hormones again blocking their function at the receptor.
Just recently you have been hearing about adrenal fatigue which 80% of Americans suffer from some degree. The adrenal and thyroid hormones work together. If one of them is not working properly the other one will compensate to some degree. Unfortunately, over time one can not keep up with the other one and eventually it starts malfunctioning. When the body is under stress due to our fast paced lifestyle, even while being on proper thyroid medicine and blood results looking perfect, the body while under tremendous stress for a prolong period of time, may begin producing an enzyme called “Reverse t3”, which blocks the “t3” (hormone responsible for metabolism) from attaching to its receptors site. This response would result in the body slowing down its metabolic rate. The body has a built in mechanism so that if you do not slow down it will do it for you by reducing your thyroid. Synthroid for many people does not work because it is only a precursor for “t3” (main hormone). Due to stress, nutrient imbalances, diabetes, the body does not convert the” t4” to “t3”, but rather its inactive form of “Reverse t3”. The easiest way to think about this is that “t3” would be the gas and “Reverse t3” is the break. If the person has more then 12 times the amount of “Reverse t3” then “ft3”, the person may have hypothyroid symptoms. Another issue women have to take in consideration is the amount of Ferritin (stored iron) she has. If the Ferritin is not at optimal level for her body, no matter how much thyroid she takes, it will not reach the tissue, which results in hypothyroidism and weight gain.
As you can see there are several factors that determine what optimal thyroid function really is, and it may explain the reason why people despite being told they are "normal", really are not with their lab results. It is also important to view what "normal" vs. "healthy", really is. Every since the physician that I am currently working with, and I, opened a hormone clinic, we have had numerous people come to us sharing with us that their physicians told them them that nothing was wrong with them, and that it was in their head basically. When I hear this I get really annoyed that some physicians are just too lazy and do not take the time to look for the cause of the issue.
I have been watching your show for as long as it has aired. I have been watching your battle with weight through out the years. Now I have the potential to return the favor for all that you have done for women and men across the world with all your generosity and love. I have been helping hundreds and thousands of men and women by donating my time on health boards helping educate people in getting their health back. If Dr. Oz and I could examine factors that may have been over looked by the traditional medical community, you may be able to get the answers that you have been seeking. It would be an honor to help in any way that I can so you could get your health back. No matter how good you eat or workout it will not help you loose weight unless you are in a proper hormonal balance. Women that where put on antidepressants, we have found as patients, were put on them for the incorrect reason, when it was a hormonal imbalance, which was resulting in their depression symptoms. These imbalances were created in the first place by being on birth control. That is another entire issue. You can not fight Mother Nature, but there are ways to bring your body back into natural balance through natural means. By bringing your body back into balance by identifying these road blocks, one can get back their well being.

Sincerely,

Shawn Bean

Source:

realthyroidhelp.com • View topic - Letter to oprah


Hurry up and delete it bro

 

[coolcat20]

Being involved with athletics since an early age, I have always been fascinated by the human body by thinking of how to make it quicker, faster, and stronger through natural means.

That bit made me laugh, we all know you are an ex-steroid abuser.

 

[dehook]

I recently had a phone consultation with Hardasnails1973 to interpret my Nutreval test from Genova Diagnostics (VERY advanced test, I wouldn't know where to start). To cut a long story short, after looking at several of my immune system markers he suggested that I may have Lyme disease, and I ordered the test with Igenex. As it turns out it is unlikely that I have Lyme, however, I do have bartonella, which tends to be a co-infection with lyme. I'm now being treated with antibiotics, and have made the first bit of progress in about 10 years.

So yeah, I don't hesitate to recommend Shawn to others. If it hadn't been for him, I'm not sure how much longer it would have taken me to get to the bottom of what was causing my severe depression.

If you want to criticize Shawn, at least do it constructively. I've done it in the past - eg, I told him flat-out that he shouldn't be charging for phone consultations for people overseas such as myself if he can't convert units. But I see no point in lambasting someone who I know is definitely not in this business to scam people.

 

[hardasnails1973]

Sako,
Do not you have anything better to do in life then pull up posts from 3 years ago Advertising, no its stating a fact who i am working along with professional speaking. Your map of reality is totally
distorted...i could care what some one on a forum says seriously. Top medical professionals in various fields have nothing but positive to say about how their patients are improving since working together on cases. On god Im an ex steroids user. How pathetic to bring up things happening over decade ago. Seriously...enough said

 

[hardasnails1973]

Before criticizing other people look at the person staring you back in the mirror. Btw people i work with are under medical supervision. I work with Drs to help them evaluate other areas to look outside the scope of traditional approach.

 

[newbie23]

On god Im an ex steroids user. How pathetic to bring up things happening over decade ago. Seriously...enough said

that guy is a douche bag, he is merely a drive by poster that clearly doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.................Im waiting for him to come back over to my place so I can take a dump on his face.

 

[hardasnails1973]

same shit, different heap

Looks whose calling the kettle black......LOL

 

[hardasnails1973]

that guy is a douche bag, he is merely a drive by poster that clearly doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.................Im waiting for him to come back over to my place so I can take a dump on his face.

Seriously, you guys need help.
Did mommy and daddy not give you enough attention as kids or were you the poor fat kid who got beat up every day? Now you have cyber muscle and a computer screen to hide behind to get your rocks off belittle other people. Arnold admitted to taking steroids...

Sorry but I got better things to do then watch 2 emotionally disturbed guys get off on things associated with unresolved mental issues.

Seriously if a psychologist would look at this he would conclude the same thing... YOU HAVE ISSUES AND NEED HELP...

Keep up the good work you 2 are doing a great job of making your self look like asses and destroying reputation of this board ...carry on..

 

[coolcat20]

Seriously, you guys need help.
Did mommy and daddy not give you enough attention as kids or were you the poor fat kid who got beat up every day? Now you have cyber muscle and a computer screen to hide behind to get your rocks off belittle other people. Arnold admitted to taking steroids...

Sorry but I got better things to do then watch 2 emotionally disturbed guys get off on things associated with unresolved mental issues.

Seriously if a psychologist would look at this he would conclude the same thing... YOU HAVE ISSUES AND NEED HELP...

Keep up the good work you 2 are doing a great job of making your self look like asses and destroying reputation of this board ...carry on..

Lets not forget you are the one who said you were natural to "wimphrey" [)]

 

[m_ob]

HAN, you have some good intentions and you DO help people, but I feel like where people start to question your credibility is when you start to get into the psuedosciences of methylation, dysbiosis, deep tissue heavy metals, etc. like coolcat mentioned. You know your stuff, and the natural care you give doesn't have to involve your past life and steroid abuse, that's allegedly behind you.

You are recognized and trusted by many throughout various forums and sites, educated but somewhere along the line misinformed. It may be that you know that some of what you preach is complete manure or just that you've actually convinced yourself that things like cellular level deficiencies can destroy ones health, but if you want people to stop questioning you I suggest you stick to the basics, all of which you know enough about.

I'm not hating HAN! You have been an important asset to this forum for awhile now.