The West is Screwed

[RobertL]

Like it or not. We cannot function without illegal immigrants. They have been the back bone of all nations since the beginning of time. Some as slaves and others as illegals. We need their cheap labor to keep prices low. If iPhone were made in the USA they would cost more than the average American could afford.
The main people the have a problem with immigration is the lower class and lower middle class. They think "they are steal their jobs". They are not. Work as hard as they do for their pay and then maybe you would get the job.
As for the crime with illegals etc... most mass shootings have been by white Americans but that doesn't seem to bother people...
I am mixed. Half white and half Mexican. So I get to see both sides. The problem is more with corporations.
Example: Our white American president took away internet neutrality. Now corporations can make more money.

P.S- Judge a person by their character and actions. Not their color or nationality. That is racism. No matter what you tell yourself.

That's why illegal immigrants, which is already illegal, can get away with murder because of liberals crying that illegals are being treating unfairly?

Or illegals that commit crimes just get deported.. Only to come right back..

Or how about sanctuary cities that allow illegal immigrants go to community colleges on the taxpayers backs?

Or how about DACA recipients getting scholarships with lower GPA's than whites because they're minorities. Still fucking illegal..

Illegal immigrants take more that shit shoveling jobs. They take money from tax payers that are supposed to be supporting American citizens.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Like it or not. We cannot function without illegal immigrants. They have been the back bone of all nations since the beginning of time. Some as slaves and others as illegals. We need their cheap labor to keep prices low. If iPhone were made in the USA they would cost more than the average American could afford.
The main people the have a problem with immigration is the lower class and lower middle class. They think "they are steal their jobs". They are not. Work as hard as they do for their pay and then maybe you would get the job.
As for the crime with illegals etc... most mass shootings have been by white Americans but that doesn't seem to bother people...
I am mixed. Half white and half Mexican. So I get to see both sides. The problem is more with corporations.
Example: Our white American president took away internet neutrality. Now corporations can make more money.

P.S- Judge a person by their character and actions. Not their color or nationality. That is racism. No matter what you tell yourself.

No, you're not mixed - you're pure uncut 100% stupid.

Pointless to comment on any of your misunderstandings in that post. I'm taking a not so wild guess here - you went to public school in SoCal or in a Mexican border state?

 

[Burrr]

I cant think of any 1st world country that I could move to illegally and just hang out until I was accepted.
Those countries would all give me the boot.

 

[RobertL]

Men of the future. Strong, resilient, super scary, and fighting for everyone's rights except their own.

Because masculinity is evil.

And jews were never attacked until the evil orange man drumpf was elected.

Nothing makes any sense. It's all sensationalized propaganda from both the left and the right.

And CNN/MSNBC/Fox/Buzzfeed/HuffPost/etc is the only news people get. Sometimes they don't even read past the headlines.

 

[RobertL]

I cant think of any 1st world country that I could move to illegally and just hang out until I was accepted.
Those countries would all give me the boot.

Right.. All of those people that were supposed to move to Canada because Drumpf was elected.. Where are you now?

Oh, did you find out that Canada has stricter immigration requirements than the USA? Shame. Guess you're stuck in the shithole known as America.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I cant think of any 1st world country that I could move to illegally and just hang out until I was accepted.
Those countries would all give me the boot.

Yeah, try Mexico...

 

[loveyourbody]

man, thats a crock.
i don't have issues with immigration, i have issues with illegal immigration.
.

What is a crock? Have you ever looked at the immigration process in the US. It's a stupid process that hasn't been updated in years. I also wish people would do things the legal way but our government next to fix this process that take years and I mean years to go through.

YES! This is such a liberal canard - spinning opposition to wetbacks into some kind of racism or xenophobia toward immigrants. People who play that game are despicable, plain and simple. I don't know a SINGLE person who is opposed to legitimate immigration.

And here I though we were having a mature and respectable discussion. I have more of a problem with people that use such vocabulary than I do with illegal immigrants. Racist people are a bigger problem towards the human race than immigrants.

 

[loveyourbody]

That's why illegal immigrants, which is already illegal, can get away with murder because of liberals crying that illegals are being treating unfairly?

Or illegals that commit crimes just get deported.. Only to come right back..

Or how about sanctuary cities that allow illegal immigrants go to community colleges on the taxpayers backs?

Or how about DACA recipients getting scholarships with lower GPA's than whites because they're minorities. Still fucking illegal..

Illegal immigrants take more that shit shoveling jobs. They take money from tax payers that are supposed to be supporting American citizens.

I want to know where you get your information from?
1-If you murder you go to prison illegal or not. Look it up it is an agreement between the USA and Mexico.
2- go back to number 1
3- that I can't argue with but I do believe everyone has a right to an education. If all they want is a better future. What is wrong with that? If you had a child wouldn't you want a better future for them?
4- white people abuse the system as well my friend. All humans do. Don't blame one race for your problems.

 

[loveyourbody]

No, you're not mixed - you're pure uncut 100% stupid.

Pointless to comment on any of your misunderstandings in that post. I'm taking a not so wild guess here - you went to public school in SoCal or in a Mexican border state?

I have not been disrespectful to you in anyway @tenpoundsleft
Just because someone doesn't share your views doesn't mean they are wrong. I won't lower myself to your level (being disrespectful to others).
Actually I was raised in VA and went to both private and public school. After graduating high school I went a well know university known as UVA. I work in the medical field and love what I do. Even though I'm still paying off my student loans.

May I ask about your education? You seem mad at the world because your situation. Learn to have a civilized discussion by the way. I'm guessing you dropped out of school?

P.S. If you can't respond in a civilized manner, then don't reply. I don't want to lower my IQ.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

What is a crock? Have you ever looked at the immigration process in the US. It's a stupid process that hasn't been updated in years. I also wish people would do things the legal way but our government next to fix this process that take years and I mean years to go through.

And here I though we were having a mature and respectable discussion. I have more of a problem with people that use such vocabulary than I do with illegal immigrants. Racist people are a bigger problem towards the human race than immigrants.

You clown - racism is somehow tied to residential status? Just how obtuse are you?

Wetback is an apt term to describe the illegals (no, we're not playing your PC game of undocumented fuck all) especially since a majority are from Mexico and a good bunch did have to cross the Rio Grande.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

Since I'm a formerly legal immigrant, proud US citizen now, and my families are both non-white and also legal immigrants, you can cram your liberal BS up your rear.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I have not been disrespectful to you in anyway @tenpoundsleft
Just because someone doesn't share your views doesn't mean they are wrong. I won't lower myself to your level (being disrespectful to others).
Actually I was raised in VA and went to both private and public school. After graduating high school I went a well know university known as UVA. I work in the medical field and love what I do. Even though I'm still paying off my student loans.

May I ask about your education? You seem mad at the world because your situation. Learn to have a civilized discussion by the way. I'm guessing you dropped out of school?

P.S. If you can't respond in a civilized manner, then don't reply. I don't want to lower my IQ.

Oh, it's going to be an educational pissing contest, well, you lose. Graduate degree from one of the two best known Ivies here.

 

[Burrr]

@loveyourbody

calling me racist for taking issue with illegal immigration is a crock.

sure, the immigration process is hard.
what country has an easy process?

if opposing illegal immigration is racist, then to be non racist i would have to support an open border policy?

should that open border be for immigrants of all nations?
any nations that dont make your list?

 

[loveyourbody]

@loveyourbody

calling me racist for taking issue with illegal immigration is a crock.

sure, the immigration process is hard.
what country has an easy process?

if opposing illegal immigration is racist, then to be non racist i would have to support an open border policy?

should that open border be for immigrants of all nations?
any nations that dont make your list?

You can have an issue with illegal immigration. I apologize if you think I called you racist. I said that judging a person on their race, color, and nationality is racist. Nothing else nothing more. That is my fault my friend.
I don't have an answer to the second one and to the last question. No sir I would welcome all people. Just not criminals. That is it. Not because of their race, nationality, or color. I wouldn't allow certain people in because of their actions.

 

[Burrr]

Oh, it's going to be an educational pissing contest, well, you lose. Graduate degree from one of the two best known Ivies here.

GED in the Army.
what do i win, lol?

 

[tenpoundsleft]

@loveyourbody

calling me racist for taking issue with illegal immigration is a crock.

sure, the immigration process is hard.
what country has an easy process?

if opposing illegal immigration is racist, then to be non racist i would have to support an open border policy?

should that open border be for immigrants of all nations?
any nations that dont make your list?

It's perplexing how he can be so brainwashed. Probably never left the US. Always listening to PBS and watching CNN etc.

Nationality is a race now, he says? Utter fail.

I've been to 65+ countries, I speak about 6 languages, I've lived and worked on 3 continents, held several work permits. The extended family has passports from at least 6 countries, my kids are mixed - so I'm not exactly xenophobic, nor ignorant of the world, or even racist. That settled, I do find it totally unacceptable to not kick out all illegals. What way is that to start your journey toward citizenship, by breaking the law, and consuming resources you're not entitled to? Get outta here.

 

[loveyourbody]

You clown - racism is somehow tied to residential status? Just how obtuse are you?

Wetback is an apt term to describe the illegals (no, we're not playing your PC game of undocumented fuck all) especially since a majority are from Mexico and a good bunch did have to cross the Rio Grande.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

Since I'm a formerly legal immigrant, proud US citizen now, and my families are both non-white and also legal immigrants, you can cram your liberal BS up your rear.

Wetback is the N word for Mexicans sir. Also they don't cross the rio grande some get fake papers and come by bus, car, etc... they pay about 6k to come to the USA illegally.
Well sir with all due respect please leave my beautiful country America. We don't want people full of hate in our country.
Also I'm not a liberal. You are way to judgemental. I like points from all parties and disagree with some points of all parties.

Oh, it's going to be an educational pissing contest, well, you lose. Graduate degree from one of the two best known Ivies here.

No pissing contest you brought it up first. May I know which one? Also so close but I've had a graduate degree for a while. Most people do my friend. It impresses no one with all due respect. Almost had me beat I guess. I do believe you are lie about what university you attended. I say this becaus ethen you would know how to have a discussion properly.

 

[loveyourbody]

GED in the Army.
what do i win, lol?

My respect my friend! Thank you for serving our country and protecting our constitution.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

GED in the Army.
what do i win, lol?

You certainly know more than he does.

Did you know Canadians are a race now?

 

[Eman]

sure, the immigration process is hard.
what country has an easy process?

I would venture to guess that just about any country outside of the United States has a more realistic path to citizenship or residency. The US has one of the most obscure and antiquated immigration processes out there as far as I know... It should be no surprise we have created such a problem with illegal immigration, not that I agree with it but it does make sense.

I doubt it'll get any better any time soon either.

 

[loveyourbody]

It's perplexing how he can be so brainwashed. Probably never left the US. Always listening to PBS and watching CNN etc.

Nationality is a race now, he says? Utter fail.

I've been to 65+ countries, I speak about 6 languages, I've lived and worked on 3 continents, held several work permits. The extended family has passports from at least 6 countries, my kids are mixed - so I'm not exactly xenophobic, nor ignorant of the world, or even racist. That settled, I do find it totally unacceptable to not kick out all illegals. What way is that to start your journey toward citizenship, by breaking the law, and consuming resources you're not entitled to? Get outta here.

I travel a lot sir. I do mission trips and help those in need. Not brain washed. I've just been to countries so poor that they have to pick between going somewhere illegally or starving to death and watching their children suffer. What would you pick sir?
No children here. Devoting my life to helping others.
Also not ignorant of the world sir I've also traveled a lot since I was 15 and stated doing mission trips to extremely poor countries.
I find it unacceptable they let you in but I have to live with it sir. Also you are not entitled to anything sir. No one is entitled to anything and that includes you sir.