Thegreytop expierences ? Opinions?

[Roco Bama]

Why? If you run gear long enough -you know what to expect from certain compounds... I trust vets experiences based on their knowledge and word. As long as they know and care to share, I'm listening....

Aas and hgh are not the same. Anything that mimics testosterone or dht can have some anabolic properties. You can achieve good results from even pro hormones or sarms. When it comes to hgh usage, the main goal is to get your igf1 level elevated which is the only hormone that induces muscle hyperplasia. I just don't understand why hgh users don't bother to do a blood test. They can afford to run hgh but can't afford to do a simple blood test. It don't make sense.

 

[BigPharma]

You are rite and certain peptides can mimic HGH side effects... I guess it's my hopes that there are some vets that have enough experience and knowledge that they are able to validate HGH quality without test but by merely using it. Once again I agree, if everybody budgeted blood test into there cycling the market quality would surely improve ...

 

[justaphan]

Here's blood I did a while ago. I thought this thread had died. But now I too have experience with greys and highly recommend them

Pd hgh serum test

 

[Roco Bama]

Here's blood I did a while ago. I thought this thread had died. But now I too have experience with greys and highly recommend them

Pd hgh serum test

You gotta do a little research on what hormone to test when using hgh. Hgh serum test is useless. Do a test to check the level of Igf-1 next time

 

[muscle96ss]

You gotta do a little research on what hormone to test when using hgh. Hgh serum test is useless. Do a test to check the level of Igf-1 next time

HGH serum test tells you how much HGH is in your blood(serum). Definitely not useless if you just injected HGH into your blood a few hours prior. It is not going to magically be high and appear in your blood if what you injected is not HGH. I am not sure why people have such a hard time with such a simple concept(not meant towards you personally).

 

[Roco Bama]

HGH serum test tells you how much HGH is in your blood(serum). Definitely not useless if you just injected HGH into your blood a few hours prior. It is not going to magically be high and appear in your blood if what you injected is not HGH. I am not sure why people have such a hard time with such a simple concept(not meant towards you personally).

Then you'll have to draw bloods every 1/2 hour for the next 8 hours to see where hgh level is at. A shot of 100mg ghrp-2 can yield 30ng serum gh level and will stay elevated for 3 hours. Igf-1 level stays constant throughout the day and it's igf1 that causes tissue to grow, not gh. Please don't fool aas users by recommending a gh serum test. I've seen bunk hgh yielding high gh levels. They just have to wait 28 days to check their igf-1 level.

 

[muscle96ss]

Then you'll have to draw bloods every 1/2 hour for the next 8 hours to see where hgh level is at. A shot of 100mg ghrp-2 can yield 30ng serum gh level and will stay elevated for 3 hours. Igf-1 level stays constant throughout the day and it's igf1 that causes tissue to grow, not gh. Please don't fool aas users by recommending a gh serum test. I've seen bunk hgh yielding high gh levels. They just have to wait 28 days to check their igf-1 level.

That is incorrect. There is no peptide that will yield a significant rise is serum gh levels 3 hours post IM injection. This has been discussed over the years ad nauseum. We have a thread on another board with thousands of posts and not one single person has ever scored high on a serum test from bunk gh and there have been plenty of bunk ghs exposed in that theead.

 

[Roco Bama]

That is incorrect. There is no peptide that will yield a significant rise is serum gh levels 3 hours post IM injection. This has been discussed over the years ad nauseum. We have a thread on another board with thousands of posts and not one single person has ever scored high on a serum test from bunk gh and there have been plenty of bunk ghs exposed in that theead.

Lol. Check this out. Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide -2 (GHRP-2), like ghrelin, increases food intake in healthy men

Anyway, people use hgh to increase their igf-1 level. Igf-1 is responsible for the formation of new cells. Why you wanna waste your money on unneeded blood test when you know your goal is to increase your igf-1 level. Or are you a source ?

 

[mands]

Lol. Check this out. Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide -2 (GHRP-2), like ghrelin, increases food intake in healthy men
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Anyway, people use hgh to increase their igf-1 level. Igf-1 is responsible for the formation of new cells. Why you wanna waste your money on unneeded blood test when you know your goal is to increase your igf-1 level. Or are you a source ?

Hey my man. You might want to look at this study again. They are being infused for 270 min. I do not see any igf-1 level score raising after one 100mg shot of GHRP-2 unless I'm missing something.

mands

 

[BigPharma]

Lol. Check this out. Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide -2 (GHRP-2), like ghrelin, increases food intake in healthy men
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Anyway, people use hgh to increase their igf-1 level. Igf-1 is responsible for the formation of new cells. Why you wanna waste your money on unneeded blood test when you know your goal is to increase your igf-1 level. Or are you a source ?

Hey Roco --, I gotta give you a big thanks. I used a 29g slin pin. And hit skin on both biceps and belly skin. 1/2mg. Inj. Mtren and 65mg tren a and about 75 Mg test suspension... You were rite the test suspension took a lil while to kick in but definitely good absorption... I felt phenomenal!!! I know alot of guys are looking for fresh sites. Well roco knows whats up. 1/2 ml subq in lean areas... Thanks Roco

 

[Roco Bama]

Hey Roco --, I gotta give you a big thanks. I used a 29g slin pin. And hit skin on both biceps and belly skin. 1/2mg. Inj. Mtren and 65mg tren a and about 75 Mg test suspension... You were rite the test suspension took a lil while to kick in but definitely good absorption... I felt phenomenal!!! I know alot of guys are looking for fresh sites. Well roco knows whats up. 1/2 ml subq in lean areas... Thanks Roco

No problem bro

 

[Roco Bama]

Hey my man. You might want to look at this study again. They are being infused for 270 min. I do not see any igf-1 level score raising after one 100mg shot of GHRP-2 unless I'm missing something.

mands

That study was proof that peptides can also raise gh levels. I don't want people to fall for miscle9ss bullshit. An igf-1 blood test is required in order to confirm the legitimacy of hgh period

 

[mands]

Then you'll have to draw bloods every 1/2 hour for the next 8 hours to see where hgh level is at. A shot of 100mg ghrp-2 can yield 30ng serum gh level and will stay elevated for 3 hours. Igf-1 level stays constant throughout the day and it's igf1 that causes tissue to grow, not gh. Please don't fool aas users by recommending a gh serum test. I've seen bunk hgh yielding high gh levels. They just have to wait 28 days to check their igf-1 level.

That is incorrect. There is no peptide that will yield a significant rise is serum gh levels 3 hours post IM injection. This has been discussed over the years ad nauseum. We have a thread on another board with thousands of posts and not one single person has ever scored high on a serum test from bunk gh and there have been plenty of bunk ghs exposed in that theead.

That study was proof that peptides can also raise gh levels. I don't want people to fall for miscle9ss bullshit. An igf-1 blood test is required in order to confirm the legitimacy of hgh period

Actually you stated above a shot of 100mg ghrp-2 can yield 30ng gh serum level and stay elevated for 3 hours. The study you posted does NOT support your claim that I can see.
I agree igf-1 is the ultimate test for insuring the bioavailability of GH administration.

@muscle96ss was stating there is no peptide that will do what you were stating.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

Lol. Check this out. Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide -2 (GHRP-2), like ghrelin, increases food intake in healthy men
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Anyway, people use hgh to increase their igf-1 level. Igf-1 is responsible for the formation of new cells. Why you wanna waste your money on unneeded blood test when you know your goal is to increase your igf-1 level. Or are you a source ?

Mands posts was explanatory enough, but if you want more data just check out datbtrues site as there is all the data necessary on that site to fully understand that no peptide will do what you are claiming.

Also, no I am not a source. Just a person who has over 2 decades worth of real life experience using GH as well as a shitload of experience with real life serum and IGF-1 testing. In addition, I have been directly involved with actual lab testing of a number of GH's.

 

[muscle96ss]

That study was proof that peptides can also raise gh levels. I don't want people to fall for miscle9ss bullshit. An igf-1 blood test is required in order to confirm the legitimacy of hgh period

An IGF-1 will tell you biological activity in the individual; which is the overall goal. But not everyones liver converts the GH to IGF-1 the same and some with liver issues get very little conversion. So you can have instances where the serum score is high but the IGF-1 is low but the GH is real. We have seen this quite a few times already. Its not bullshit as you allude to, its fact!! The only bullshit is your claim of ghrp-2 causing serum scores to be the same as GH.

 

[justaphan]

You gotta do a little research on what hormone to test when using hgh. Hgh serum test is useless. Do a test to check the level of Igf-1 next time

No offense but your dead wrong. I tested hgh on my first shot of 10 units. This was not over the period of time. I wanted to check serum levels. This tells me I'm shooting hgh. Igf is tested after a long period of time. Why would I wait that long continually injecting something if I don't know that it's hgh. It's been discussed on this and other boards tuns of times. Do some research.

 

[Gigem46]

Does anyone have experience ordering Domestic through TP? Any idea on T/A?

 

[mands]

Does anyone have experience ordering Domestic through TP? Any idea on T/A?

Most likely 4-5 weeks to be safe.

mands

 

[ickyrica]

Most likely 4-5 weeks to be safe.

mands

 

[Sampei]

No offense but your dead wrong. I tested hgh on my first shot of 10 units. This was not over the period of time. I wanted to check serum levels. This tells me I'm shooting hgh. Igf is tested after a long period of time. Why would I wait that long continually injecting something if I don't know that it's hgh. It's been discussed on this and other boards tuns of times. Do some research.

No you do some research!!! Serum GH is useless, Chinese bad shit put in fake GH just to raise serum GH but igf was staying low.

And you are the fucking ignorant because to raise igf you don't need much time. Many ppl have proved that in one week max 2 you reach maximum igf level compared to your dose.

Take care and fuck off