Thegreytop expierences ? Opinions?

[CdnGuy]

Not false; the issue is with the semantics of "generics. TheGreytop isn't an FDA approved generic but like the guy said:

Do you ever use generic drugs when you get a script from your doc? There's no difference between the generic and brand name

That is true:

FACT: FDA requires generic drugs to have the same quality and performance as brand name drugs.

• 
  When a generic drug product is approved, it has met rigorous standards established by the FDA with respect to identity, strength, quality, purity, and potency. However, some variability can and does occur during manufacturing, for both brand name and generic drugs. When a drug, generic or brand name, is mass-produced, very small variations in purity, size, strength, and other parameters are permitted. FDA limits how much variability is acceptable.

• Generic drugs are required to have the same active ingredient, strength, dosage form, and route of administration as the brand name product. Generic drugs do not need to contain the same inactive ingredients as the brand name product.

• The generic drug manufacturer must prove its drug is the same as (bioequivalent) the brand name drug. For example, after the patient takes the generic drug, the amount of drug in the bloodstream is measured. If the levels of the drug in the bloodstream are the same as the levels found when the brand name product is used, the generic drug will work the same.

• Through review of bioequivalence data, FDA ensures that the generic product performs the same as its respective brand name product. This standard applies to all generic drugs, whether immediate or controlled release.

• All generic manufacturing, packaging, and testing sites must pass the same quality standards as those of brand name drugs, and the generic products must meet the same exacting specifications as any brand name product. In fact, many generic drugs are made in the same manufacturing plants as brand name drug products.

Facts about Generic Drugs

Alot of Canadian meds are generics. That are produced in India and are by no means REGULATED BY THE FDA! Fact

 

[Ed Plucker]

Not true.



Also false.

I disagree with pretty much everything you posted there actually... these were just the two things that annoyed me the most.

I use generic GH myself so don't get me wrong, I don't actually have anything against it. But you're pushing a ton of misinformation around.

Bullshit my man. I know for certain the GH being legitimately being produced in non clandestine labs is up to like 5!! In a nation of 2 B potential consumers and 300+M of the worlds wealthiest customers the country is the second richest nation on earth. But for now they have a $100B trade surplus with the US. That is beyond fucked up. How did these fuckers who got routed by the Japanese Army make the nation that controls over half the entire wealth of the world. But you have Angtropin, Godtropin, Hygetropin, Jintropin, and Anemone. I really don't have time for this shit right now, but this is to be continued motherfucker, I am going to have some labs done on me next month. I'm going to follow the protocol on multiple forum sites. Im going to inject 10iu IM about an hour before the test. Then Im going to have my IGF-1, my IGF1BP, my serum GH. If its all elevated which I can fucking guarantee you its working. I happen to be 230 lbs of solid muscle at probably 9% bf. Im lean and Im big as fuck and I know what Im doing with drugs. I probably could teach you because Ive been learning from Dave Palumbo who was 300 lbs at 4% bf onstage!!! The guy obviously know what he's talking about. And the guy went to medical school. He knows what the fuck he's talking about and would rip you to shreds for being such an asshole to the new guy who maybe sounds off a little bit. But I know what the fuck Im talking about and when I start my next cycle in November Im going to gain like 30 lbs of muscle. My test levels are totally shot right now and Im fucking stoked to get going. But Im only using hGH, IGF-1, MGF, Insulin and clomid and I haven't lost a pound but I still have all this muscle with all these hungry receptor sites to be filled an activated by a drug which is just a synthetic version; and exact copy of the hormone your body produces so you're body can't possibly reject it.

 

[legendary]

How is generic the same as Pharm GH?

Don't kill me. But doesn't the pharmacy sell generic?

 

[Ed Plucker]

If you want me to leave then I will. I don't care to deal with people who would treat me this way. But I know a lot about performance enhancing drugs. I like the banter and Im a good guy. I don't steal, lie, or cheat. (actually I only lie to my gf). But Im a cool guy and why can't we all just get along???!!! LOL

 

[legendary]

My insurance makes me get generics.

 

[CdnGuy]

Don't kill me. But doesn't the pharmacy sell generic?

Have a read bro.....

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/worth-the-price-push-for-cheaper-generic-drugs-has-canadians-buying-questionable-medicines-from-asia (Worth the price? Push for cheaper generic drugs has Canadians buying questionable medicines from India)

 

[Ed Plucker]

Don't kill me. But doesn't the pharmacy sell generic?

Yes of course they do. 99% of people who are taking medication for which the patent has expired and there is a generic which 80% are produced in India and they have to be fucking FDA approved you fucking morons! You can't just open up a store and start dispensing controlled medication on of a store front. Anything that is sold as a drug for which somatropin can and is made in fucking China. Everything in this country is made in China.

 

[legendary]

I know. That's my point. We bitch about ugl and in reality who is safer. Ugl, pharm, pharm generic? Nothing is 100% monitored.

 

[legendary]

Yes of course they do. 99% of people who are taking medication for which the patent has expired and there is a generic which 80% are produced in India and they have to be fucking FDA approved you fucking morons! You can't just open up a store and start dispensing controlled medication on of a store front. Anything that is sold as a drug for which somatropin can and is made in fucking China. Everything in this country is made in China.

They do have different fillers, and fda. Do they have enough people worldwide to test every factory? No. The have scheduled inspections and the factory most likely knows when fda will be there. They all know what they can and can't get away with. As long as peeps aren't dying. Whose really looking at them.

 

[CdnGuy]

Bullshit my man. I know for certain the GH being legitimately being produced in non clandestine labs is up to like 5!! In a nation of 2 B potential consumers and 300+M of the worlds wealthiest customers the country is the second richest nation on earth. But for now they have a $100B trade surplus with the US. That is beyond fucked up. How did these fuckers who got routed by the Japanese Army make the nation that controls over half the entire wealth of the world. But you have Angtropin, Godtropin, Hygetropin, Jintropin, and Anemone. I really don't have time for this shit right now, but this is to be continued motherfucker, I am going to have some labs done on me next month. I'm going to follow the protocol on multiple forum sites. Im going to inject 10iu IM about an hour before the test. Then Im going to have my IGF-1, my IGF1BP, my serum GH. If its all elevated which I can fucking guarantee you its working. I happen to be 230 lbs of solid muscle at probably 9% bf. Im lean and Im big as fuck and I know what Im doing with drugs. I probably could teach you because Ive been learning from Dave Palumbo who was 300 lbs at 4% bf onstage!!! The guy obviously know what he's talking about. And the guy went to medical school. He knows what the fuck he's talking about and would rip you to shreds for being such an asshole to the new guy who maybe sounds off a little bit. But I know what the fuck Im talking about and when I start my next cycle in November Im going to gain like 30 lbs of muscle. My test levels are totally shot right now and Im fucking stoked to get going. But Im only using hGH, IGF-1, MGF, Insulin and clomid and I haven't lost a pound but I still have all this muscle with all these hungry receptor sites to be filled an activated by a drug which is just a synthetic version; and exact copy of the hormone your body produces so you're body can't possibly reject it.

Any chance of pics? 230 at 9% I wouldn't mind seeing that...good work sir.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Have a read bro.....

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/worth-the-price-push-for-cheaper-generic-drugs-has-canadians-buying-questionable-medicines-from-asia (Worth the price? Push for cheaper generic drugs has Canadians buying questionable medicines from India)

What's the point of this?!! Do you not buy generic versions of named brand drugs that are made in india?!! Anything you buy in a pharmacy has to be FDA approved!! End of fucking story. And all these generic drugs that you buy at Walgreens or Walmart or Kmart or Lowes or wherever are manufactured in INDIA!! By FDA license.

 

[CdnGuy]

What's the point of this?!! Do you not buy generic versions of named brand drugs that are made in india?!! Anything you buy in a pharmacy has to be FDA approved!! End of fucking story. And all these generic drugs that you buy at Walgreens or Walmart or Kmart or Lowes or wherever are manufactured in INDIA!! By FDA license.

Lol Guess you just can't read and understand what they are saying in that article I see! Oh btw how bout those pics bro?

 

[Ed Plucker]

They do have different fillers, and fda. Do they have enough people worldwide to test every factory? No. The have scheduled inspections and the factory most likely knows when fda will be there. They all know what they can and can't get away with. As long as peeps aren't dying. Whose really looking at them.

Dude they're running with a government license. You then create culture of E Coli and inject it with a prion which is genetic material that tells the bacteria instead of multiplying itself to manufacture hGH. They've been using Recombinant DNA technology to make recombinant insulin which is the only type you should ever buy. But they've been doing that shit since the fucking 1940's. The shit is old news. Anyone who knows anything about genomics and genetic engineering has to understand how the body can be provided with supplemental doses of recombinant human growth hormone (hGH). This stuff will exactly mimic the action of real GH produced by your pituitary. And you can produce it very cheaply in USD terms.
$1 buy a hell of a lot in Hong Kong. It can't buy you shit here without some change.

But they're all running with a government license which is likely just a payoff. But they have a license and they do have governing body like the FDA. China regulates the production of any drug that is ostenibly for the American pharmaceutical industry but is obviously being diverted to the black market

 

[Eman]

Not false; the issue is with the semantics of "generics. TheGreytop isn't an FDA approved generic but like the guy said:

Do you ever use generic drugs when you get a script from your doc? There's no difference between the generic and brand name

The FDA mandates that you get a minimum of just 80% of the drug into your bloodstream from a generic medication compared to the original drug. It can also be as much as 125% which means you could conceivably receive a difference of 45% of the drug introduced to your system between refills.

A generic will contain the active ingredient but it will also contain different binders, fillers and inactive ingredients.

There are a few other differences but the point is that generics are not completely identical to the brand name unless the generic name is coming from the same manufacturer of the brand name, in which case I believe it is the exact same other than the name difference on the label.

Pharma GH is also not the same as generic. If it were, generics such as those in the GH Assay thread would have been dosed accurately.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Lol Guess you just can't read and understand what they are saying in that article I see! Oh btw how bout those pics bro?

I will get you one by tomorrow asshole? Im not huge like Dorian Yates huge but Im pretty damn big and lean especially for a guy who is going to be going on steroids in about a month and a half and my body's going to explode. Because I will be taking fucking everything that these huge fuckers take. If I can't get as big using the following stack:

1,000 mg test enan/cyp blend
50mg tren acetate EOD
40mg winstrol via IM EOD
400 mg Deca Durabolin
5-8iu of Angtropin per day all year
50mcg IGF-1 DES immediately post workout into the muscle I just trained.
100mcg PEG MGF - 2-3 times a week. Have to take it on a day I don't train.
10iu Novolin - postworkout with 2 scoops high card creatine, 30g whey isolate protein.

Then I have no business continuing trying to be a serious BBer which is honestly what Im planning to be. I want to be a high level amateur by next year at this time. Im 37 so Im really in my prime as a bodybuilder. One who has the mass and the cuts and looks great.
That;s really all I care about right now. Its become an obsession.

 

[Ed Plucker]

The FDA mandates that you get a minimum of just 80% of the drug into your bloodstream from a generic medication compared to the original drug. It can also be as much as 125% which means you could conceivably receive a difference of 45% of the drug introduced to your system between refills.

A generic will contain the active ingredient but it will also contain different binders, fillers and inactive ingredients.

There are a few other differences but the point is that generics are not completely identical to the brand name unless the generic name is coming from the same manufacturer of the brand name, in which case I believe it is the exact same other than the name difference on the label.

Pharma GH is also not the same as generic. If it were, generics such as those in the GH Assay thread would have been dosed accurately.

What assay are you referring to? Its exactly the same fucking molecule whether its generic or in a box that came from a lab where they have to pay their scientists and engineers a lot of money. They have super high fixed costs for paying off the buildings and paying the salaries, and that shit gets put right back into the fucking price of a drug. The only reason that you pay $1200 in Walgreens for Serostim hGH is if you're fucking rich as fuck and can afford to throw money away. And maybe you are. God bless you bro. I only make $26,500 a year. I can't afford pharma brand GH. 56iu of Humatrope for $450!! Are you fucking serious?!! I can get 100 iu of created in China which most of the shit we interact with in our days were made in China. My $1,700 MacBook Air was manufactured in China and it works pretty fucking well. So I don't doubt that the reason why when coming off a heavy long term cycle with significant disruption of natural testosterone production. But I haven't lost a fucking pound after being on 750mg test, 25mg superdrol a day for about a year. Not the superdrol but usually at least two injectables.
But you wanna pay $1,000 a month to get them from a lab in good old Arkansas with a bunch of hillbillies that's fine but don't roam around this site like you're fucking superior because you can actually afford to piss away $1000 for hGH when you don't even compete.
But whatever. God loves you and I do too, bro, let's end this shit of measuring our dicks. OK? I may not know everything but I do know we can learn a lot from each other if you could just check your ego please!

 

[Eman]

What assay are you referring to?

The assay thread in the HGH sub forum. They have tested three brands, none of which have been remotely close to advertised contents. Pharma GH is I believe has to be minimum of 98% to leave the manufacturer? It is NOT the first time generic GH has been put into question for consistency.

Anyways, I have enjoyed the generics thus far myself. But.. I know they can be hit or miss which is something that doesn't happen with pharma grade. I think there are some great generic GH manufacturers out there... I hope there are anyways. But it'll always be slightly more of a gamble with them.

Also, there are much cheaper prices than $8+ for pharma HGH.

 

[Ed Plucker]

The assay thread in the HGH sub forum. They have tested three brands, none of which have been remotely close to advertised contents. Pharma GH is I believe has to be minimum of 98% to leave the manufacturer? It is NOT the first time generic GH has been put into question for consistency.

Anyways, I have enjoyed the generics thus far myself. But.. I know they can be hit or miss which is something that doesn't happen with pharma grade. I think there are some great generic GH manufacturers out there... I hope there are anyways. But it'll always be slightly more of a gamble with them.

Also, there are much cheaper prices than $8+ for pharma HGH.

Fuck man hook a brother up! I would buy the shit if I could get a months worth for $300. I can get 100iu of angtropin which I would need 2 for a month so it would be like $400 and I would pay so then I would lock up a supply of good probably overdosed generic somatropin. The Angtopin work just like Humatrope does. Seriously can you for sure tell me if pharma grade is really where its at and taking like 2-3 iu of hGH a day would be huge if its as good as you claim.

 

[Sampei]

What the fuck I have just read?
I want my time back!!!

Bullshit my man. I know for certain the GH being legitimately being produced in non clandestine labs is up to like 5!! In a nation of 2 B potential consumers and 300+M of the worlds wealthiest customers the country is the second richest nation on earth. But for now they have a $100B trade surplus with the US. That is beyond fucked up. How did these fuckers who got routed by the Japanese Army make the nation that controls over half the entire wealth of the world. But you have Angtropin, Godtropin, Hygetropin, Jintropin, and Anemone. I really don't have time for this shit right now, but this is to be continued motherfucker, I am going to have some labs done on me next month. I'm going to follow the protocol on multiple forum sites. Im going to inject 10iu IM about an hour before the test. Then Im going to have my IGF-1, my IGF1BP, my serum GH. If its all elevated which I can fucking guarantee you its working. I happen to be 230 lbs of solid muscle at probably 9% bf. Im lean and Im big as fuck and I know what Im doing with drugs. I probably could teach you because Ive been learning from Dave Palumbo who was 300 lbs at 4% bf onstage!!! The guy obviously know what he's talking about. And the guy went to medical school. He knows what the fuck he's talking about and would rip you to shreds for being such an asshole to the new guy who maybe sounds off a little bit. But I know what the fuck Im talking about and when I start my next cycle in November Im going to gain like 30 lbs of muscle. My test levels are totally shot right now and Im fucking stoked to get going. But Im only using hGH, IGF-1, MGF, Insulin and clomid and I haven't lost a pound but I still have all this muscle with all these hungry receptor sites to be filled an activated by a drug which is just a synthetic version; and exact copy of the hormone your body produces so you're body can't possibly reject it.

 

[Eman]

Fuck man hook a brother up! I would buy the shit if I could get a months worth for $300.

I'm not saying it's that cheap. I'm saying if you do research you can find it for less than over $8/iu. It can be found pretty easily for $5-6/iu.

Seriously can you for sure tell me if pharma grade is really where its at and taking like 2-3 iu of hGH a day would be huge if its as good as you claim.

Pharm grade you can rest easy that you have what is advertised in the vial. Generics can be a crap shoot. Thus, they are not quite the same... that's what I'm telling you.