Thin build cycle help

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For a lot of people struggling to gain weight, 200g minimum protein is a relatively decent starting point, might not be ideal for some. But pushing 300g of protein can be tough for new people especially if trying for more whole food sources.

 

[drippie]

Do the standard dbol kickstart for a month with test e/c 500mg cycle for 12 weeks.

You'll get your 200lbs then realize getting to 200lbs isnt everything.

 

[Gronk87]

I wasn't talking about on cycle. The concensus of all replies prior to mine was he needs to eat more first before trying to cycle, which is what I was giving my .02 cents on.

And you most definitely can reach those calories without a bunch of fat. It's quite easy. I've seen many guys including myself get solid gains from the macros I outlined.

Do you understand how calories work? If you have 200 protein and 300 carbs, that is 2000 calories. It's a definite number it's not up for debate. So how do you get 1500-2000 more calories if you aren't eating them in fat? Lol your post makes no sense

 

[Gronk87]

Sorry, my post was kind of dickish, I'm not trying to be a dick. But in case you were unaware, this is how macros are broken down

Carbohydrates- 4 calories per gram
Protein- 4 calories per gram
Fat-9 calories per gram
Alcohol-7 calories per gram

So if you instruct OP to eat 200p and 300c but to eat 3500-4000 cals, he is only getting 2000 calories from carbs and protein. The remaining 1500-2000 would have to come from fat, at 9 calories per gram. You are looking at 170-220 grams of fat to reach those cals! I'm not saying you couldn't gain on it, but that is a lot of fat, and a large amount of those calories would best be used on slightly more protein and a LOT more carbs. You are basically reccomending a 20% protein 30% carb 50% fat macros if you want him to eat 4K cals with your stated macros. That is NOT ideal for building muscle!!

 

[Jav]

Sorry, my post was kind of dickish, I'm not trying to be a dick. But in case you were unaware, this is how macros are broken down

Carbohydrates- 4 calories per gram
Protein- 4 calories per gram
Fat-9 calories per gram
Alcohol-7 calories per gram

So if you instruct OP to eat 200p and 300c but to eat 3500-4000 cals, he is only getting 2000 calories from carbs and protein. The remaining 1500-2000 would have to come from fat, at 9 calories per gram. You are looking at 170-220 grams of fat to reach those cals! I'm not saying you couldn't gain on it, but that is a lot of fat, and a large amount of those calories would best be used on slightly more protein and a LOT more carbs. You are basically reccomending a 20% protein 30% carb 50% fat macros if you want him to eat 4K cals with your stated macros. That is NOT ideal for building muscle!!

I stand corrected then. No worries man that's what this board is for. I must have made errors in my tracking according to your information. You're not being a dick brother I was just misinformed.