buddy1
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So now musulman is omniscient as well. All it takes is a few posts, and he knows you better than you know yourself.
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Thoughts on Steroids (And Non-Legal Enhancers) in Martial Arts.
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So now musulman is omniscient as well. All it takes is a few posts, and he knows you better than you know yourself.
buddy1
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There's no need to hold a grudge just because God didn't bless you with what it takes to land a chick with perfect breasts. Let it go....Be happy with what you do have!
By the way, if you had the balls to call my girl a bimbo to my face, I would beat your ass to a pulp!
buddy1
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Do you have perfect vision? Perfect teeth? Never had an acne problem? So every kid that gets braces so they don't grow up with crooked teeth is rebelling against God? Everyone that gets glasses or contacts so they can see better? Are you for real? I'm beginning to think you're just a troll feeding off the attention.
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Stretch
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lmfao
Jeton
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[
)] great fukn thread, i wonder if JKD expected this?[)]
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)] great fukn thread, i wonder if JKD expected this?[)]opcorn:
someanddone
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OOOOOOOOWWWEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! This has gotten interesting! Here we go......
Musulman,
This is the last response you will get from me. I'm done feeding your insatiable appetite for ignorant posturing. First off, I never claimed to be a big shot. Clearly, if I were a big shot making big money in the big time, I wouldn't have found a great job and quit fighting. I do have enough fights to be looked up, watched, and exposed, so I chose to not get into detail. I have no need to stroke my ego, as your ego is something you learn to tame after you suffer your first defeat. I haven't lived with my mom since she died when I was 18. If you think I'm 19, then that is even more embarrassing for you, because you are arguing with a teenager who is clearly more intelligent and less immature than you. And believe it or not, some of us out here in the real world have exciting, fulfilled lives, despite having at some point or another hit rock bottom. You say that you have done bad things and you were a bad man. And then somebody says they fight and you attack them and say they are weak, insecure, and pathetic. Ha. I've been to prison, old man, and you wouldn't last nowadays. Not because of gang violence or race wars or any other media hyped dangers of prison, but because you can't shut the fuck up. Hahahaha. I wouldn't waste a broken hand on your face, but there are plenty of people out here,(again, I'm referring to the real world) that would set you down for talking the way you talk. Or try to talk. All in all, you continue to accomplish nothing on this forum besides making yourself look ridiculous. I find it hilarious, but then I realize that I have wasted almost 2 hours of my day responding to a fool, and I get angry (maybe it's the sust). So long buddy.
Musulman,
This is the last response you will get from me. I'm done feeding your insatiable appetite for ignorant posturing. First off, I never claimed to be a big shot. Clearly, if I were a big shot making big money in the big time, I wouldn't have found a great job and quit fighting. I do have enough fights to be looked up, watched, and exposed, so I chose to not get into detail. I have no need to stroke my ego, as your ego is something you learn to tame after you suffer your first defeat. I haven't lived with my mom since she died when I was 18. If you think I'm 19, then that is even more embarrassing for you, because you are arguing with a teenager who is clearly more intelligent and less immature than you. And believe it or not, some of us out here in the real world have exciting, fulfilled lives, despite having at some point or another hit rock bottom. You say that you have done bad things and you were a bad man. And then somebody says they fight and you attack them and say they are weak, insecure, and pathetic. Ha. I've been to prison, old man, and you wouldn't last nowadays. Not because of gang violence or race wars or any other media hyped dangers of prison, but because you can't shut the fuck up. Hahahaha. I wouldn't waste a broken hand on your face, but there are plenty of people out here,(again, I'm referring to the real world) that would set you down for talking the way you talk. Or try to talk. All in all, you continue to accomplish nothing on this forum besides making yourself look ridiculous. I find it hilarious, but then I realize that I have wasted almost 2 hours of my day responding to a fool, and I get angry (maybe it's the sust). So long buddy.
someanddone
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When you can figure out the complexities of the English language go ahead and get back to me.
For the record....ARE/OUR...are not interchangeable words. And this is just the tip of the iceberg when discussing your problems with communication. If I read between the lines, of your rhetoric, I can see you MAY have a good point SOMEWHERE down there. But I need the Hubble to see it past all YOUR ignorance. You do more harm than good. And I am not speaking about religion. If you like, I will go through your post and point out every little thing that makes your ignorance so glaringly obvious.
However, I meant no disrespect by saying, that YOU agree with ME. If it makes you happier, I hate it when I agree with ignorant people. Does that make you happy?
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)]Classic. Absolutely classic. But you may be waiting a while for musulman to figure anything out. He's still looking up complexities.....thinks it might be a place he used to live.
My opinions on steroid use don't apply to the broader category of "cheating". Steroids allow the athlete itself to improve performance - to become bigger, faster, stronger - and simply reflect an extension of the "deviant overconformity" to the hard work, dedication, etc. required to excel.
This is why I feel it is non-sensical to prohibit steroids from sports. It's not any different than banning weight-training from sports.
The rules governing doping in sports is categorically different that other rules that you would say define "cheating".
This is why steroid use doesn't really bother me.
This is no different than competitors in the sport who choose not to spend as much time in the gym / court / field / track training/practicing because they would rather spend more time with their famlies OR those who choose not to spend money to travel / train at altitude or buy a hypobaric chamber to enhance their hematocrit because they would rather put that money aside for their child's college education.
No , they shouldn't be "punished" for their commitment to their family. But that is the nature of competition.
The problem is that there is someone out their who is willing to dedicate themselves, to work out hard, to spend more time committed to the sport.
This type of "deviant overconformity" is rewarded.
Transformation, metamorphosis, change is one of the great narratives in history.
Poor kids grow up and strive to be rich.
Weak, sickly kids grow up and strive to be strong.
Disrespected, abused kids grow up and strive to achieve respect.
One is not born a man but must become a man.
And yes, this often arises out of insecurity.
Some of the great achievements, particularly in sports, arise from individuals who overcome the odds, whether illness, broken homes, poverty - who were motivated by their insecurities - to become great.
Your "essence" isn't defined by what you are born with but what you become. You really can't know who you are until you become it.
Reinheart
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Musulman just stop it with the fucking God thing. God, this, God that.
You're a fucking hypocrite. You used to take steroids as well and you have done a ton of nasty ass things your life, including fucking unconsious men in the ass and you also did some time in prison.
You were the one to say that it isn't gay if one man fucks another in the ass if there's no woman available!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK? Since when???
If you feel guilt for all you have done and you suddenly realized, "hey, if there is a god and i start to believe, my sins may be forgiven and my spirit will rest in peace"
Stop projecting God in every fucking post because that's what you do. If you want to believe in God, do it, it's your right. I don't like it nor i want to read about it and since this forum is for public use, thoughts like this are to be held back. I AM OFFENDED WHEN I READ IN 9 OUT OF YOUR 10 POSTS ABOUT GOD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MUSULMANS.
Wanna call me a racist??? Go ahead and do it. I couldn't care less.
In all my years here on Meso, you're the first person i have offended and attacked like this.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Noone wants to hear to your bullshilt anymore.
We are here because we like to use steroids and we have goals that we want to achieve. Each one for his own reasons. If someone is not ready to use AAS, then we let them know. If someone is, you have no fucking right to come in here, post a 2000 word reply describing how bad steroids are and so on.
I hope you remember i was with your side and supported you and your sayings and respected you but i have had enough.
You're a fucking hypocrite. You used to take steroids as well and you have done a ton of nasty ass things your life, including fucking unconsious men in the ass and you also did some time in prison.
You were the one to say that it isn't gay if one man fucks another in the ass if there's no woman available!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK? Since when???
If you feel guilt for all you have done and you suddenly realized, "hey, if there is a god and i start to believe, my sins may be forgiven and my spirit will rest in peace"
Stop projecting God in every fucking post because that's what you do. If you want to believe in God, do it, it's your right. I don't like it nor i want to read about it and since this forum is for public use, thoughts like this are to be held back. I AM OFFENDED WHEN I READ IN 9 OUT OF YOUR 10 POSTS ABOUT GOD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MUSULMANS.
Wanna call me a racist??? Go ahead and do it. I couldn't care less.
In all my years here on Meso, you're the first person i have offended and attacked like this.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Noone wants to hear to your bullshilt anymore.
We are here because we like to use steroids and we have goals that we want to achieve. Each one for his own reasons. If someone is not ready to use AAS, then we let them know. If someone is, you have no fucking right to come in here, post a 2000 word reply describing how bad steroids are and so on.
I hope you remember i was with your side and supported you and your sayings and respected you but i have had enough.
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Musulman is better at getting people pissed off than Peanut Butter however I found PB more entertaining. Sure I find homosexual domination as funny as the next guy but $500 bottles of asian gear was priceless.
Anyway this thread had real potential to be something special and at times it was. The ethics involved with MMA are really quick complex. I never participated, or even remotely have been involved the closest I have been to MMA is watching a UFC fight. That said growing up playing football and knowing the damage it can cause makes the MMA dynamic far more intense.
Generally speaking I tend to agree with Millard. Steroids are a part of life and the refusal to admit the are used by almost ALL linemen in college football through the pro ranks is silly. So if you do intend on competing at that level you had better be ready to get with the program. That is the reason so many people (in academia) are coming around to the notion that steroids should be allowed in competition.
Anyway this thread had real potential to be something special and at times it was. The ethics involved with MMA are really quick complex. I never participated, or even remotely have been involved the closest I have been to MMA is watching a UFC fight. That said growing up playing football and knowing the damage it can cause makes the MMA dynamic far more intense.
Generally speaking I tend to agree with Millard. Steroids are a part of life and the refusal to admit the are used by almost ALL linemen in college football through the pro ranks is silly. So if you do intend on competing at that level you had better be ready to get with the program. That is the reason so many people (in academia) are coming around to the notion that steroids should be allowed in competition.
Reinheart
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BUMP. I need to make sure he is going to read this.
Jeton
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buddy1
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Amen Brother!!
buddy1
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I have to disagree on the steroids in sports. Not everyone wants to subject their bodies to the possible side effects. At what age would you say people could start using? What if someone doesn't want to go bald before they're 30? Or what if they're concerned about becoming sterile? Blood doping can be very dangerous for cyclists; what if someone is naturally talented, but doesn't want to risk their health? Steroids aren't even a necessity in most sports. Bodybuilding and power lifting are the only exceptions.
Don't get me wrong here. I don't get bothered when I find out someone gets busted from using PEDs. I also think the federal government needs to keep their noses out of it!
Don't get me wrong here. I don't get bothered when I find out someone gets busted from using PEDs. I also think the federal government needs to keep their noses out of it!
Stretch
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We are in "lock-step" regarding the non-sensical nature of banning PED's from athletic competition.
The individual who chooses to spend money on their childrens college education rather than spend money on altitude training or hypobarics, is NOT forfeiting an advantage for the sake of the INTEGRITY of the sport, or for his OWN morality.
The person who is saving for his childrens college education is TRADING one benefit for another. He is trading, the ability to possibly be an ELITE athlete, in order to be committed to his family, this is VERY different IMO than someone who is doing everything they can WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE RULEBOOK, to be the best. I mean, we can't make EVERYTHING completely fair, some people will have superior genetics, some will have superior FINANCES, which allow them more prolific training methods. But if there is a RULE that rule should be followed.
It's not a difficult concept.
Break the rules and you're a cheater.
LOL--At some point I think we'll have to let bygons be bygons on this one Millard. If you'd stop bringing up good points, I'd stop attempting to respond[
)]Millard,
People are driven by insecurities but no insecure weak person can be better than a natural in a million years. No matter how much steroids are consumed, the real deal is the real deal. Its god given /blessed talent that cant be compensated for.
Buddy, i will call the truth, bimbos is correct term for these type women......and nothing in life intimidates me much, i say it how it is.
People are driven by insecurities but no insecure weak person can be better than a natural in a million years. No matter how much steroids are consumed, the real deal is the real deal. Its god given /blessed talent that cant be compensated for.
Buddy, i will call the truth, bimbos is correct term for these type women......and nothing in life intimidates me much, i say it how it is.
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Rules, much like laws, don't necessarily dictate right or wrong or morality. Like laws, there are bad rules and good rules. In neither case do I believe simple obedience/compliance should necessarily be a reflection of morality or character.
Also like laws, some rules are universally ignored. Particularly in this case, breaking a rule or law shouldn't be a reflection of moral character.
One point that I will concede: there are consequences for breaking rules/laws. Anyone who breaks either should be prepared for the consequences.
For example, there are "speed limit" laws that are universally and intentionally ignored by most people. I don't think I would be exaggerating by stating that it is the norm for most drivers to speed on a regular basis. It is very difficult to enforce the speed laws as well. But I don't think anyone's choice to break the law and speed is a reflection of their moral character. As for people who never, ever speed, they have the satisfaction of knowing they religiously follow the letter of the law.
(This is not a perfect analogy of course because I think the speed limit laws are fundamentally a good idea for reasons of public safety. I would further argue that the casual and common violation of these laws is much worse than any athlete's violation of doping rules by using steroids if for no other reason than it statistically puts a greater number of people in physical harm's way.)
Similarly, the anti-doping rules are universally and intentionally ignored by most athletes. Steroid use is the norm. Most people within sports are NOT really bothered by it because it is the norm. Those who chose not to use PEDs have the satisfaction of following the letter of the rulebook.
One final but important observation:
You don't become a criminal by speeding.
You don't become a cheater by using steroids.
You have to be caught first..
Jeton
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so, uh...what happens to ur claim when genetic manipulation of athletes becomes feasible within the next 10 (and probably the next 5) years?
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buddy1
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Millard must have been on the debate team in high school. 
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