i don't think working and going to school is conclusive evidence that you don't molest sheep. Hell, you could be going to school where they teach you to molest sheep. We don't know what goes on at those ag. schools right?
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TruBodybuilder1989
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I'll admit I'm cracking up the sheep thing was funny.
I actually went to a school where they taught you how to fuck sheep, although the difference is the sheep were of age and it was consensual... No molestation going on...
All emails are replied to. If I did not reply to your email it is because you sent us all the info we need, although I tried to go through and at least send a short message to everyone.
As far as trubodybuilder guys, fuck. Yes, he needs to stop posting but I owed him $200 from one of our transactions in the past he did for me so I sent him product, TC included, to cover that transaction, not as a direct replacement for the TE.
Two, yes you guys are correct. If a product we sell is labeld as X it should be X. However, like several people have pointed out, this is a black market. Mass specs aren't sitting around in peoples closets. If you have a better source that you feel tests everything with 100% accuracy and has a 100% dose on their gear, then you shouldnt even be commenting in this thread. Mexico doesnt count because its not a black market, steroids are legal there. Therefore, they can produce pharmaceutical grade product and sell it, GUESS WHERE? in a pharmacy to people without an rx. I would love to know that the things are 100% of the dose I think they are but issues arise in a black market. All the raws come from china for christs sake. Not even india. If anyone thinks they have better raws, feel free to homebrew. But then you will have to mass spec all your small batches, if you have access to an MS, which will cost you a hell of a lot of money. Point being, as a user of these substances for a very long time, I like to know these things just as much as the next guy and Ive purchased from many UGLs before that most likely dosed what they thought was the correct dose assuming 100%. Why were guys 10-15 years ago running 1/4 of what guys are now in their logs? Chinese raws have gone to shit. The gh market went to shit in the last 6 months between rips, hyges, and a slew of other brands. Point being, I want 100% dose claim. However, if you dont like purchasing from the black market then purchase pharm grade and dont be in the thread. I got screwed on my last THREE hgh purchases and they all came up bunk or near bunk...think I got replacements? Hell no. Its a risk I am willing to accept with a black market though since I dont feel like going to the pharmacy and paying for serostim out of pocket. Im not as naive to think everything in a black market will be what I want it to be all the time even though I try to control the variables as much as possible.
Now we will be trying out new suppliers, new raws, etc and will keep everyone updated.
As far as Astro, someone said I was deflecting or whatever. Im not. Im saying bloods on his gear (which I think we can assume is dosed properly) came out almost exactly the same as ours which supports either an industry standard at this price point or that ours was accurately dosed.
Also, to the guys claiming 1/3 dosing because of bloods, the MS shows otherwise.
Also, lightspan I dont think our prop or var is junk. I have run it and will continue to do so because of the results it gets. Ive got reason to believe the purity is not what the MS shows, not that it matters, and the prop came back at concentration 76mg when we made it at 105. No one would make prop at 250mg and expect it to be useable.
Sorry for the ranting but had to get it out after some of the crazy comments in here. If you dont like it, feel free to not be active in the thread. Otherwise, we will do our best to rectify the situation with customers.
TL
As far as trubodybuilder guys, fuck. Yes, he needs to stop posting but I owed him $200 from one of our transactions in the past he did for me so I sent him product, TC included, to cover that transaction, not as a direct replacement for the TE.
Two, yes you guys are correct. If a product we sell is labeld as X it should be X. However, like several people have pointed out, this is a black market. Mass specs aren't sitting around in peoples closets. If you have a better source that you feel tests everything with 100% accuracy and has a 100% dose on their gear, then you shouldnt even be commenting in this thread. Mexico doesnt count because its not a black market, steroids are legal there. Therefore, they can produce pharmaceutical grade product and sell it, GUESS WHERE? in a pharmacy to people without an rx. I would love to know that the things are 100% of the dose I think they are but issues arise in a black market. All the raws come from china for christs sake. Not even india. If anyone thinks they have better raws, feel free to homebrew. But then you will have to mass spec all your small batches, if you have access to an MS, which will cost you a hell of a lot of money. Point being, as a user of these substances for a very long time, I like to know these things just as much as the next guy and Ive purchased from many UGLs before that most likely dosed what they thought was the correct dose assuming 100%. Why were guys 10-15 years ago running 1/4 of what guys are now in their logs? Chinese raws have gone to shit. The gh market went to shit in the last 6 months between rips, hyges, and a slew of other brands. Point being, I want 100% dose claim. However, if you dont like purchasing from the black market then purchase pharm grade and dont be in the thread. I got screwed on my last THREE hgh purchases and they all came up bunk or near bunk...think I got replacements? Hell no. Its a risk I am willing to accept with a black market though since I dont feel like going to the pharmacy and paying for serostim out of pocket. Im not as naive to think everything in a black market will be what I want it to be all the time even though I try to control the variables as much as possible.
Now we will be trying out new suppliers, new raws, etc and will keep everyone updated.
As far as Astro, someone said I was deflecting or whatever. Im not. Im saying bloods on his gear (which I think we can assume is dosed properly) came out almost exactly the same as ours which supports either an industry standard at this price point or that ours was accurately dosed.
Also, to the guys claiming 1/3 dosing because of bloods, the MS shows otherwise.
Also, lightspan I dont think our prop or var is junk. I have run it and will continue to do so because of the results it gets. Ive got reason to believe the purity is not what the MS shows, not that it matters, and the prop came back at concentration 76mg when we made it at 105. No one would make prop at 250mg and expect it to be useable.
Sorry for the ranting but had to get it out after some of the crazy comments in here. If you dont like it, feel free to not be active in the thread. Otherwise, we will do our best to rectify the situation with customers.
TL
Titan, see the thing is you don't get to decide who posts in this thread. This is not your thread. It's ours, the members of the meso community.
It's clear there's a whole lot of people who are not happy and despite your repeated 'black market' claims, it seems they'll continue to be unhappy until you make things right. You're getting the opportunity to make good here, but we've seen promises before and history says this won't end well.
What's to say this new supplier does not send you the same under-dosed raws? Well nothing it would seem as you find MS so difficult to access. Many already see how this will play out, for those of you that are willing to continue with this lab, be careful
It's clear there's a whole lot of people who are not happy and despite your repeated 'black market' claims, it seems they'll continue to be unhappy until you make things right. You're getting the opportunity to make good here, but we've seen promises before and history says this won't end well.
What's to say this new supplier does not send you the same under-dosed raws? Well nothing it would seem as you find MS so difficult to access. Many already see how this will play out, for those of you that are willing to continue with this lab, be careful
4leafclover
New Member
This isn't Titansteroids.com I'll post wherever the fuck I want. You don't like it, then GTFO. And black market steroid production isn't legal in Mexico, hence the huge crack down a while ago, and the vet lab busts. Just like black market steroid production isn't legal here, but we still can get a prescription... Yes, it's easier to get things like oxy-c from Mexico without a script, but you can't get roids anymore down there...
Man, I used to like the way you approached the Meso board, but the more I pop into this thread, I like you less each time I read one of your ridiculous threads. Maybe you should proof read your shit before you post. Your job is one thing at the moment, damage control, fuck your banter.
I'm not posting for you, I post for the other members to consider before they place an order with you.
Man, I used to like the way you approached the Meso board, but the more I pop into this thread, I like you less each time I read one of your ridiculous threads. Maybe you should proof read your shit before you post. Your job is one thing at the moment, damage control, fuck your banter.
I'm not posting for you, I post for the other members to consider before they place an order with you.
weighted chinup
Well-known Member
Titan, @4leafclover just gave you some of the best advice anyone can give you at the moment...forget these long drawn out explanations on the state of china, MS, etc)...address your QA issues professionally and take care of unsatisfied customers. Arguing member submitted MS and feedback is a futile effort when you yourself have no knowledge of the purity of your raws.
This is the first time I have ever heard this arguement. My gear is as bad as everyone else's. It's the industry standard.
Better luck with a new powder source. We want our sources to succeed. Finding a solid powder supply is the challenge. I hope you find one before your reputation is destroyed.
Just stop addressing all this, make whole the people who need to be made whole, and fix the problems.
All the BS in every post isn't needed nor wanted. Just get the shit fixed.
All the BS in every post isn't needed nor wanted. Just get the shit fixed.
An open letter to all our customers from TL's Black Market Gentlemen's Club
We realize that we advertise hot and sexy women but that most of our girls are actually fat and ugly. Please be aware that many years ago it was easy to get as many hot and sexy women from Russia as we needed, now however due to an immigration crack down we have to take women from wherever we can find them. We have also heard through the grapevine that there have been reports of a few ugly women at Astro's Gentlemen's Club. Clearly this is an industry wide problem.
We are also aware that several customers have complained following lap dances that several of our "women" had something extra in their G-strings and may actually not be women. Please realize that quality control is an expensive proposition. We do spot check our "women" but an occasional package is likely to slip through.
These are industry wide problems not specific to TL's Gentlemen's Club. If you want to insure seeing hot and sexy women you will have to go to Pharma's Gentlemen's Club but the lap dances will cost you twice what we charge here at TL's.
We promise the next time you visit TL's the women will be hot and sexy. Well, we can't actually promise that but we will try. In the meantime if you aren't happy with our club go somewhere else and don't tell any of your friends about our problems.
Sincerely,
Management TL's Gentlemen's Club
We realize that we advertise hot and sexy women but that most of our girls are actually fat and ugly. Please be aware that many years ago it was easy to get as many hot and sexy women from Russia as we needed, now however due to an immigration crack down we have to take women from wherever we can find them. We have also heard through the grapevine that there have been reports of a few ugly women at Astro's Gentlemen's Club. Clearly this is an industry wide problem.
We are also aware that several customers have complained following lap dances that several of our "women" had something extra in their G-strings and may actually not be women. Please realize that quality control is an expensive proposition. We do spot check our "women" but an occasional package is likely to slip through.
These are industry wide problems not specific to TL's Gentlemen's Club. If you want to insure seeing hot and sexy women you will have to go to Pharma's Gentlemen's Club but the lap dances will cost you twice what we charge here at TL's.
We promise the next time you visit TL's the women will be hot and sexy. Well, we can't actually promise that but we will try. In the meantime if you aren't happy with our club go somewhere else and don't tell any of your friends about our problems.
Sincerely,
Management TL's Gentlemen's Club
lightspan
New Member
junk means it is underdosed and not what your customers paid for.
i ran your var at 60 mg a day for over a week and got ZERO results. the chick i am giving an entire tab (29 mg, according to you) a day, who has been running it for almost a month, is seeing results commensurate with maybe 5 mg a day. at 30 mg a day she should be growing a dick.
i ran your prop, the pip was so fucking bad i switched to another ugl, at which point my results started picking up dramatically. check my log hoss, it's all there.
integrity means when you're wrong, you admit it.
we will have a new mass spec service lined up shortly, and conveniently, i still have all of the products in question. every one of them will be mass spec'd again, as will the replacement items. i'll happily pay for it, so don't fret the store credit, we're square as soon as my replacements land.
this time the data presentation will be unequivocal. then you can call the lab that did the results and argue with them. or call it a photoshop. or whatever. i don't care.
back to where we started. make your customers whole and do the right thing.
Colt44
Well-known Member
You have hell of a lot of nerve to blame "industry standards" on your complete lack of quality control. The only one to blame for this is YOU. Not your raw source and especially not your customers for expecting to receive the labeled amounts.
Test your products prior to sending them out and then you might have a leg to stand on when situations arise. Enough with the pharma prices compared to UGL. No one here is expecting 99% pure products from a UGL. What they are expecting from an honest(riiiight) somewhat legitimate UGL is a quality product that is labeled correctly. They also don't expect the blame game.
Fix this fucking mess YOU created and stop making excuses.
bigpoppachump
New Member
Now fat ugly women I would stick around to see. If I was still a drinker I would follow the half priced drinks and fat chicks all day over the overpriced drinks and silicone laced bodies of the more exotic clubs. Bad analogy man cause some of us are just dirty motherfuckers looking for a cheap thrill lol.
But shitty gear is another story
lightspan
New Member
Thanks for explaining things in a way we can all understand MP.
TANGO.ECHO.KILO
Member
So I decided to reread this entire thread, from the beginning. There is just so much there before the first round of orders even hit, next time we go with our guts and run these punks off before that get one red cent. I don't think anyone here can really say they are that surprised given this kid's arrogance, we knew he was a child since the day he showed up. The only guy that I didn't quote was the first guy to throw up the red flag and that was @Colt44.. there were just too many to quote them all.
Always an excuse, always a deflection, always someone else's fault...I have a friend back home you remind me of. He's turning 3 next month.
Always an excuse, always a deflection, always someone else's fault...I have a friend back home you remind me of. He's turning 3 next month.
hunterbro
New Member
Just stopped in for my daily dose of asshole and pissed off. Mission accomplished. Carry on.
Point taken and we are doing our best to fix it. Ill leave it at that and move on.
I will post a revised product list in the next day or two as far as products that have been pulled temporarily, new products, new concentrations, etc. That should help as far as people understanding what they are getting.
TL
Best post in a while.... Now for the $100,000 question.... Will you be replacing all the underdosed test E???
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