Titan Labs

We are looking into replacing the TE. Ill be on here later tonight or tomorrow with info on that as I believe we have more raws coming in soon that would enable us to do so.

Ill keep everyone updated on that. However not all raws were from them. I do have an MS on a batch different than this past one and his test P came back at 96%. Problems with mast e aren't indicative of everything.

TL
 
We are looking into replacing the TE. Ill be on here later tonight or tomorrow with info on that as I believe we have more raws coming in soon that would enable us to do so.

Ill keep everyone updated on that. However not all raws were from them. I do have an MS on a batch different than this past one and his test P came back at 96%. Problems with mast e aren't indicative of everything.

TL

I was really routing for you, but you have been evasive and down r
 
I was really routing for you, but you have been evasive and downright insulting with your stall tactics... Of course the test you replaced for TB was from a different batch... And of course the MS on the test p that YOU had tested was 98%... You've obviously made your money and could give a shit about doing the right thing... So much for your "being here for the longhaul" speech... Again, I was really hoping you would pull through, but once again we've been swindled by another greedy ugl... Thx
 
Well @showstoppa and I butted heads pretty good here in the beginning. We reconciled our differences and he seems to be doing everything he can to help the community IMO. He's also very active in this thread and makes many other contributions around Meso, actually not a bad guy when I'm not jumping all over him without much factual basis :D

I agree, showstoppa has been really good for this thread. I've talked to him alot and I think he wants the best for everyone running titans gear. He's had some good and fair ideas for making things right.
 
Colt: I thought the exact same thing when I read Bruce. lol Good link.

So "from now until Friday". but not Test E.....but now maybe test E. Do I have to email or not have to email? before or after Friday. lol. oh forget it.
 
I agree, showstoppa has been really good for this thread. I've talked to him alot and I think he wants the best for everyone running titans gear. He's had some good and fair ideas for making things right.
Titan replaced your gear @showstoppa ?

even if the gear is 202mg/ml that still means (in my case) I payed for 3xTE = 7500mg total and got 6060mg. He didnt even offer to replace the mg I was shorted... says a lot about his character. Doesn't make a fuck now, if he did replace it I wouldn't pin it and TL will NEVER get another dime from me.
 
I never asked for mine to be replaced. I have already used it and all I have ordered is
1-test cyp as in dhb cypionate. He can't get the raws for that anymore, nobody can.
 
Emailed TL thursday and have yet to hear back about replacing the prop. Should've never ordered after they refused to post different pictures of equipment. Live and learn. Also I would like to see what the tren a dose would come out at, was running 150mg EOD, no night sweats which I always get, no increased vascularity, no insomnia.... dissapointing.
 
Titan replaced your gear @showstoppa ?

even if the gear is 202mg/ml that still means (in my case) I payed for 3xTE = 7500mg total and got 6060mg. He didnt even offer to replace the mg I was shorted... says a lot about his character. Doesn't make a fuck now, if he did replace it I wouldn't pin it and TL will NEVER get another dime from me.

Dont normally call people out but you were one of the ones that said you didn't think the TE needed to be replaced at that dosage. In your case you also paid 1/3 of human grade...its not an excuse on our part, and we will do our best from now on to compensate but as we all know raws and sources vary all the time, but if 100% of label is what you want you need to get something approved by the FDA.


Yes we have what we need now to replace the test e and stay open on meso. All in all, our goal is to provide good products but THIS IS A BLACK MARKET. Things do not always turn out like we like them to. Astro's TE blood work numbers that I saw, matched ours exactly. There will always be issues and if people aren't prepared to run into those, they need to stick with pharm grade for 2-3x the price.

We will be posting a revised product list as well. Mass specs are hard to come by as of now but Im going to be straightforward and say that until we can get all products tested like we want, we will be ASSUMING 75% purity and correct for that in our products. The majority of even reputable ugl's dont compensate...which is why we have the ugl prices we have and the dosages that people run online nowadays. If any of that does not sit well, no one is making anyone order. We will always try to be professional in our dealings but nothing has an FDA stamp on it and if thats what people want, thats what they need to buy.

The anavar will either be pulled or replaced with a different source as will the test prop. We are testing a couple new suppliers but things should be smoother sailing.

I know some of you that have sent emails about replacements have not received replies. We are keeping track of everyone and what needs replacement and those will be going out next week.

TL
 
I bet you advertised it at full dosage right? Maybe don't label your shit something it isn't? Seems like a little common sense to me. People will pay for truth. If a guy was selling 80% test and labelled it at 202mg a cc he wouldn't lack for buyers. Wouldn't that be refreshing, people paying for what is advertised?
 
Dont normally call people out but you were one of the ones that said you didn't think the TE needed to be replaced at that dosage. In your case you also paid 1/3 of human grade...its not an excuse on our part, and we will do our best from now on to compensate but as we all know raws and sources vary all the time, but if 100% of label is what you want you need to get something approved by the FDA.


Yes we have what we need now to replace the test e and stay open on meso. All in all, our goal is to provide good products but THIS IS A BLACK MARKET. Things do not always turn out like we like them to. Astro's TE blood work numbers that I saw, matched ours exactly. There will always be issues and if people aren't prepared to run into those, they need to stick with pharm grade for 2-3x the price.

We will be posting a revised product list as well. Mass specs are hard to come by as of now but Im going to be straightforward and say that until we can get all products tested like we want, we will be ASSUMING 75% purity and correct for that in our products. The majority of even reputable ugl's dont compensate...which is why we have the ugl prices we have and the dosages that people run online nowadays. If any of that does not sit well, no one is making anyone order. We will always try to be professional in our dealings but nothing has an FDA stamp on it and if thats what people want, thats what they need to buy.

The anavar will either be pulled or replaced with a different source as will the test prop. We are testing a couple new suppliers but things should be smoother sailing.

I know some of you that have sent emails about replacements have not received replies. We are keeping track of everyone and what needs replacement and those will be going out next week.

TL

1st rule of business.... Don't bash the competition.... Your shitty situation has nothing to do with Astro... Just as no one should bring up your name if shit goes south for them...

"THIS IS A BLACK MARKET" .... If this is your defense, why didn't you state from the beginning that products will not be as advertised ?? You set a pretty high bar for yourself when you first came here and now that it's gone to shit, you're blaming it on the nature of the beast???? You've got a lot to learn my friend, unfortunately your lesson came at everyone else's expense...
 
While I'm not backing him up, if you think any UGL gear is 100% pure you're just being ignorant. You don't see other UGL's advertising "237mg/ml Test C!"
 
Dont normally call people out but you were one of the ones that said you didn't think the TE needed to be replaced at that dosage. In your case you also paid 1/3 of human grade...its not an excuse on our part, and we will do our best from now on to compensate but as we all know raws and sources vary all the time, but if 100% of label is what you want you need to get something approved by the FDA.
TL

I have not been following Titan labs very closely but, to me, this says it all.
They are clearly stating that even they do not believe any of there dosages are as per label.
I am sorry Titan but we expect more than, you paid 1/3 the price so you get 1/3 the hormone.

That is crap.
 
LOL if we want 250mg per ml, we need to get an FDA approval. Hey buddy, news flash, mexico did it without the FDA approval, why can't you? Lot's of other places do it without FDA approval...

Why is it now a normal procedure to assume shitty quality is everywhere? It wasn't that long ago when UGL's tried to copy American lab quality, so now you're ok with throwing in the towel and having a shitty product because this "is the black market". Sounds like a shitty argument to me.
 
my little meso vacation is over. just caught up on this thread, so to recap and be clear, because i'm a little slow, and so there is no question in my (or anyone else's mind):

titan, you acknowledge the test p and var were junk. you are replacing the var with another batch, and are replacing the test p with test c (or something else, if the customer prefers, which i do prefer, see my pms/emails). please note i will be labmaxing and mass spec'ing your items. again.

for clarity: for at least one devoted cock-rider (see TruBB's post above above) you replaced the test e, for others, you will not. okie dokie, is what it is. you've rationalized your way into making underdosed product ok.

i sent all this nice stuff via pm and email, but i'm swearing off pm and email to square shit up henceforth. blame @brutus79 and @element00 , they pointed out the error of my nice guy ways.

titan, i'll do an astro thread bit on you: you have a couple emails and pms from me. attend to them, promptly.

i wish you the best of luck. i still, in my naivety, think you are trying to do the right thing. it's a bad habit of mine, i try to think well of people.

Let me close with this: make your customers whole. do the right thing.
 
LOL if we want 250mg per ml, we need to get an FDA approval. Hey buddy, news flash, mexico did it without the FDA approval, why can't you? Lot's of other places do it without FDA approval...

Why is it now a normal procedure to assume shitty quality is everywhere? It wasn't that long ago when UGL's tried to copy American lab quality, so now you're ok with throwing in the towel and having a shitty product because this "is the black market". Sounds like a shitty argument to me.
You are right, Mexico did it for a long time. I hate to say it but I tend to agree with some of what Titan is saying. Every UGL I have used has been weak in purity and/or underdosed when compared to Pharma grade. Sucks but it is the nature of the beast. BTY, I'd gladly pay 2 or 3 times UGL prices if I could get a regular human Grade hookup.
 
how nice. he replaced your test e, but i get a "based on feedback from other members we will not be replacing the test e"

being a cock-riding shill has its benefits.

Actually no, some other got replacements. Like I've said before I didn't know we wasn't replacing them for all of you guys either.


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