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Look if they want you I don't care what you use bitcoin, wg/mg, fricking birthday card in the mail, they will get you.
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Very true, but I would rather not make it any easier for them. Plus it gives me a little more piece of mind, whether it should is irrelevant... But you're right,The only way to not worry at all is to not buy them at all
 
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Very true, but I would rather not make it any easier for them
Oh I dont disagree with you. This is something that is up to the individual you can take your security as high as you want it. Honesty, I am a moneypak or birthday card with a cash gift in the mail kind of guy. I put most of security in a private email or two and a couple of VPN's. This is my personal security policy I feel people can go as far as they want for security. My personal policy is what one might call moderate. I am pretty lax about sending money/ receiving paks. Not so on my communication and privacy though I try to keep that shite tight. I always encourage people be as tight with your security that makes you comfortable. In the end though......with what the NSA can do pfffft does it matter? Rhetorical statement guys.
 
Addict,bipolar, escort , that will put whatever substance in her body that's put in front of her... But she'll prob only blow/fuck you for coke/money....
You know all it takes to make that go away is just to stop using drugs. That simple, don't get high. People just can't grasp that concept!
Look if they want you I don't care what you use bitcoin, wg/mg, fricking birthday card in the mail, they will get you.
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ive used vanilla reload with a certain source and it was very easy and cheap on the customers end. Whts the difference between these, money pak/reload. Etc?
 
You know all it takes to make that go away is just to stop using drugs. That simple, don't get high. People just can't grasp that concept!
Her problems go way beyond the drugs... This woman would need years of psychotherapy and medication to deal with her demons. I agree you have your run of the mill addicts that can just go to meetings and counseling to kick the habit.. This woman's brain was wired wrong before she ever ingested her first narcotic....


ive used vanilla reload with a certain source and it was very easy and cheap on the customers end. Whts the difference between these, money pak/reload. Etc?
 
You know all it takes to make that go away is just to stop using drugs. That simple, don't get high. People just can't grasp that concept!

ive used vanilla reload with a certain source and it was very easy and cheap on the customers end. Whts the difference between these, money pak/reload. Etc?

Nothing just the choice of the source. I understAnd it is a bit cumbersome on the receiving end but on the user end they are great.
 
Nothing just the choice of the source. I understAnd it is a bit cumbersome on the receiving end but on the user end they are great.

Bitcoin can be pretty cumbersome on the UGL, heck if TL dislikes moneypak, he should just use the moneypaks to buy bitcoins! As long as his internet connections went traced back to him, it would look as if whomever purchases the moneypak used it to buy bitcoins or was scammed out of it!
 
I don't understand why everyone doesn't use moneypak, unless there's risk on the collectors side, which very well could be the case.. As the sender it's a breeze and no info is collected. Am I missing something??


Alright thanks for the opinions guys. A couple things,

One, moneypak is very hard on the receiver end. Way to many measures in place after the patriot act to make collecting the money easy at all. Same with vanilla.

Western union....Ill just say that its not really feasible. Imagine picking up dozens of western unions at many, many locations. It is a near full time job. The main problem though is that 1 out of 3 people on the sender end mess something up.

Bitcoin, as someone said, isn't particularly anonymous, although people think it is. If the feds really want you, they are gonna get you. Its more about allowing efficient pick up of funds so our TA doesnt go to 2-3 weeks.

Bitcoin does not have any limits or hoops to jump through which makes it a much simpler option to some extent.

Im open to more feedback though and would like to continue hearing opinions.

TL
 
Bitcoin can be pretty cumbersome on the UGL, heck if TL dislikes moneypak, he should just use the moneypaks to buy bitcoins! As long as his internet connections went traced back to him, it would look as if whomever purchases the moneypak used it to buy bitcoins or was scammed out of it!

This would be a great idea except that there is a massive fee for the exchange
 
Alright thanks for the opinions guys. A couple things,

One, moneypak is very hard on the receiver end. Way to many measures in place after the patriot act to make collecting the money easy at all. Same with vanilla.

Western union....Ill just say that its not really feasible. Imagine picking up dozens of western unions at many, many locations. It is a near full time job. The main problem though is that 1 out of 3 people on the sender end mess something up.

Bitcoin, as someone said, isn't particularly anonymous, although people think it is. If the feds really want you, they are gonna get you. Its more about allowing efficient pick up of funds so our TA doesnt go to 2-3 weeks.

Bitcoin does not have any limits or hoops to jump through which makes it a much simpler option to some extent.

Im open to more feedback though and would like to continue hearing opinions.

TL
Hey TL,
I totally get the need to keep security in place, but I think if you limit people to one form of payment, especially one that feels like you're opening an etrade account, the inconvenience will only force people to look elsewhere for the mere convenience of it all. In that scenario, nobody wins. I did, however, figure that their must be some type of concern over moneypaks on the receiver end, because logic dictates that it would make the most sense (no paper trail or ID info when funding it with cash) If you don't mind me asking what about the patriot act makes moneypak less safe for you than bitcoin? Like you said, if they want you, they'll get you.. I'm not being a wiseass, sincerely curious... Thx brotha
 
Hey TL,
I totally get the need to keep security in place, but I think if you limit people to one form of payment, especially one that feels like you're opening an etrade account, the inconvenience will only force people to look elsewhere for the mere convenience of it all. In that scenario, nobody wins. I did, however, figure that their must be some type of concern over moneypaks on the receiver end, because logic dictates that it would make the most sense (no paper trail or ID info when funding it with cash) If you don't mind me asking what about the patriot act makes moneypak less safe for you than bitcoin? Like you said, if they want you, they'll get you.. I'm not being a wiseass, sincerely curious... Thx brotha

Yea, no problem man. There is a lot that goes on on our end that I never even thought about when I was just a customer.

I'll be completely honest with you guys because, like Ive said, I have never sourced before. I am a guy that got into homebrew and wanted to share what I learned because I enjoy making products that I, as well as others, can rely on.

As far as the patriot act stuff, more or less the only way to get money off moneypaks is to deposit them to paypal or a prepaid debit card. This is pretty common knowledge. However, there are deposit limits placed on all of these that are very low, making it nearly impossible to consistently receive money.

It was surprising to me, after getting into all this, how hard it is to do something as simple as send and receive money haha.

Hope that answers your question more fully.

TL
 
Yea, no problem man. There is a lot that goes on on our end that I never even thought about when I was just a customer.

I'll be completely honest with you guys because, like Ive said, I have never sourced before. I am a guy that got into homebrew and wanted to share what I learned because I enjoy making products that I, as well as others, can rely on.

As far as the patriot act stuff, more or less the only way to get money off moneypaks is to deposit them to paypal or a prepaid debit card. This is pretty common knowledge. However, there are deposit limits placed on all of these that are very low, making it nearly impossible to consistently receive money.

It was surprising to me, after getting into all this, how hard it is to do something as simple as send and receive money haha.

Hope that answers your question more fully.

TL
That makes total sense and I respect your commitment/risk to what you're doing. With that I ask you this... What about setting spending limits for purchases being made with MP's?? Set a limit up to a certain price for MP use and bitcoin for anything over?? Would something like that work?? Just trying to think outside the box!! Lol
 
This might have been said but the biggest gripe with bitcoin I have is it's fluctuating value. It's like using stock shares to purchase items. One day you need 1.5 coins the next day you need 2 because the value declined. From that aspect it's fantastic or a nighare for both parties. The receiver can sit on the coins and cash out when the value is high. There's also the opposite risk of the value declining. Same with the buyer if they hold on to bitcoins. These other money transfer schemes at least retain their value.

I feel your pain TL, that's a tough nut to crack.
 
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