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Well, the idea of the front load was just to get the level of test that I’m running during my bulk, right at the start at bulk.

HIGHRISK said:
Do you think In some situations eating more equals more fat loss than eating less? Obviously training and gear being on point.
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I would go as far as saying I had an eating disorder. Kept my calories around 1100 every day, afraid to get fat again.

I bumped them up to 2000-2200 and I lost tons of weight. Larger amount of clean calories will always trump less calories of dirty food
 
Morefyah said:
Nope I keep catching you running your mouth. Everything you say or likes even towards people that support this shit is just a bad as supporting it yourself. A “Real” source wouldn’t get into these matters in the first place. If you don’t want to be looked at as a racist then don’t support them!
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Dude you are a fuckin twisted individual. Just like the rest on your side of the spectrum. I know cause I'm surrounded by them In NY. In America everyone does not have to fall in line with your beliefs if they don't agree. Open your eyes a bit. It's hard to even Insult you because like the majority of you guys in 2019, you are too twisted and far gone to be saved. There's no reasoning, there's nothing that can be done. Everyone who opposes your beliefs is evil and racist. Fuck off
 
puckhog said:
@iceman440 after reading rabbits comments I did some digging and thought this article gives some good info why frontloading is a waste. I am not convinced his method is superior to standard AAS cycles though.
This would be a fun thing to experiment with in two different cycles. If all variables remain the same (food, training, sleep) except the AAS dosage.
Cycle 1 could be a taper up like the article suggests.
Cycle 2 could be steady dose of AAS from the beginning till the end.

See which cycle produced the most GaInZ!

⫸STICKY⫷ - ⫸Why You Should NOT Frontload a Cycle⫷
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Tapering up through cycle works because as myostatin tries to balance things you are staying ahead of the curve.

The plateau happens typically when someone runs same dosage through cycle length. adding or upping changes the curve.
 
Roger rabbit said:
Tapering up through cycle works because as myostatin tries to balance things you are staying ahead of the curve.

The plateau happens typically when someone runs same dosage through cycle length. adding or upping changes the curve.
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I think people are starting to blame myostatin way more and I’m confident they’re hitting plateaus from eating like a field mouse WAY before they’re being inhibited by hormones and myostatin.
 
Mac11wildcat said:
I think people are starting to blame myostatin way more and I’m confident they’re hitting plateaus from eating like a field mouse WAY before they’re being inhibited by hormones and myostatin.
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You are probably correct. It’s a clutch that people will use for slow growth.
 
Mac11wildcat said:
I think people are starting to blame myostatin way more and I’m confident they’re hitting plateaus from eating like a field mouse WAY before they’re being inhibited by hormones and myostatin.
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Agree to an extent. Most under eat 100%

But when you are on cycle for 12 weeks or longer the myostatin is 100% this cannot be disputed as that’s myostatin job to bring balance and not allow for uncontrolled growth.

The body uses myostatin because it’s dna knows if the muscle growth is too rapid other damages happen to ligaments, tendons etc. which is well documented anidoctially with all the injuries from people’s fast increase in strength and muscle size while using steroids. The user tends to forget ligaments, tendons etc do not grow as rapidly. And although you can go from pushing 50lbs to 100lbs you should not do that in a rapid form.

This is a big reason you constantly hear people say they see better gains on a short 8 weeks cycle the myostatin has not “evolved” or progressed in its upward curve fast enough in that time frame.

Now, we go longer than 8 weeks upping the dosage or adding beats that curve. And by upping I’m not talking about adding 3,4,500 mg more im talking 100-200mg more. ( if we are talking upping test. Other compounds vary)
 
Roger rabbit said:
Agree to an extent. Most under eat 100%

But when you are on cycle for 12 weeks or longer the myostatin is 100% this cannot be disputed as that’s myostatin job to bring balance and not allow for uncontrolled growth.

The body uses myostatin because it’s dna knows if the muscle growth is too rapid other damages happen to ligaments, tendons etc. which is well documented anidoctially with all the injuries from people’s fast increase in strength and muscle size while using steroids. The user tends to forget ligaments, tendons etc do not grow as rapidly. And although you can go from pushing 50lbs to 100lbs you should not do that in a rapid form.

This is a big reason you constantly hear people say they see better gains on a short 8 weeks cycle the myostatin has not “evolved” or progressed in its upward curve fast enough in that time frame.

Now, we go longer than 8 weeks upping the dosage or adding beats that curve. And by upping I’m not talking about adding 3,4,500 mg more im talking 100-200mg more. ( if we are talking upping test. Other compounds vary)
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With you 100%.
 
iceman440 said:
Well, the idea of the front load was just to get the level of test that I’m running during my bulk, right at the start at bulk.



I would go as far as saying I had an eating disorder. Kept my calories around 1100 every day, afraid to get fat again.

I bumped them up to 2000-2200 and I lost tons of weight. Larger amount of clean calories will always trump less calories of dirty food
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I had great progress when I worked with atlas. I cut down 30 lbs of which I believe was almost all fat. Then business busy season came and I just basically maintained my weight. I thought I knew what to do. So I cut some protein and carbs and became more relaxed about.

Recently I cut almost all my carbs and ran the ECA stack and got nowhere. I think I put on a few lbs. so I’ve realized I still have no idea what I’m doing. Fml
 
Roger rabbit said:
Agree to an extent. Most under eat 100%

But when you are on cycle for 12 weeks or longer the myostatin is 100% this cannot be disputed as that’s myostatin job to bring balance and not allow for uncontrolled growth.

The body uses myostatin because it’s dna knows if the muscle growth is too rapid other damages happen to ligaments, tendons etc. which is well documented anidoctially with all the injuries from people’s fast increase in strength and muscle size while using steroids. The user tends to forget ligaments, tendons etc do not grow as rapidly. And although you can go from pushing 50lbs to 100lbs you should not do that in a rapid form.

This is a big reason you constantly hear people say they see better gains on a short 8 weeks cycle the myostatin has not “evolved” or progressed in its upward curve fast enough in that time frame.

Now, we go longer than 8 weeks upping the dosage or adding beats that curve. And by upping I’m not talking about adding 3,4,500 mg more im talking 100-200mg more. ( if we are talking upping test. Other compounds vary)
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Haven't done mega self research here but if I recall correctly doesn't myostatin, holding dosage constant, return to baseline too? From very iffy memory I recall it's 16 weeks or something?
 
HIGHRISK said:
I had great progress when I worked with atlas. I cut down 30 lbs of which I believe was almost all fat. Then business busy season came and I just basically maintained my weight. I thought I knew what to do. So I cut some protein and carbs and became more relaxed about.

Recently I cut almost all my carbs and ran the ECA stack and got nowhere. I think I put on a few lbs. so I’ve realized I still have no idea what I’m doing. Fml
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30lbs is an impressive amount. If you have their program updates handy, go look through them. I’m confident you can draw out the patterns that lead to weight loss (or even just maintenance) until working with them again makes sense.
 
HIGHRISK said:
I had great progress when I worked with atlas. I cut down 30 lbs of which I believe was almost all fat. Then business busy season came and I just basically maintained my weight. I thought I knew what to do. So I cut some protein and carbs and became more relaxed about.

Recently I cut almost all my carbs and ran the ECA stack and got nowhere. I think I put on a few lbs. so I’ve realized I still have no idea what I’m doing. Fml
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As you get lower in fat, it does become harder to lose. Any idea of your current body fat?

Why did you cut protein out? Even while cutting I think having high protein is great for retaining as much muscle mass as possible
 
Mac11wildcat said:
FUCK I forgot to ask for a DHB sample.
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Don't worry, I have one to be here very soon. I got you ;)

Looks, like I missed when and where we were going to have a BBQ, but @HIGHRISK said he was putting it on. Should I book a plane ticket now? My ole lady would really be happy about another boys trip after Cancun :mad::eek::D

Saw some country music talk also. Hank III, Cody Jinks, Sturgil Simpson, Jamey Johnson(the best) The Band Of Heathens( Hurricane is awesome song) I listen to a ton of music..but these are a few of the current country guys I like.

Really interested in boxing, BBQ, guns, girls and booze. So let me know when the time is right :cool:
 
In my experience front loading is a waste of gear. I don’t see the benefits from doing this.

Instead of front loading idky guys just don’t start their cycle a week or two early?
Tapering up a few times during a blasts seems to work and keep gains coming throughout.
 
My issue is, I can get all the way down to what I consider the baby fat. I’m 6-2 and I’m a 34 jeans, no abs

Assuming I’m still 18-22%. I just can’t seem to do anything from that point on. Maybe I don’t have an muscles lol.

After this bulk, I do believe Mac will be making me up a diet plan. The about of knowledge I would have to pick up for a proper diet, will take me over 100$ worth of research
 
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