Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

[janoshik]

Is this human error?

my error, probably pipetted the sample twice into the same vial

what are you doing to correct it?

I have done many different types of errors and after each one of them was figured out I put precaution into place. Precaution to this one is that I am running duplicates or triplicated for oils since this May.

So even if I accidentally pipette twice the amount / less amount into one of the vials, it will be determined by different result between duplicates/triplicates.

 

[bolder]

I have done many different types of errors and after each one of them was figured out I put precaution into place. Precaution to this one is that I am running duplicates or triplicated for oils since half of April.

So even if I accidentally pipette twice the amount / less amount into one of the vials, it will be determined by different result between duplicates/triplicates.

Retirement should probably be the next plan you put into place!

 

[iceman440]

I have done many different types of errors and after each one of them was figured out I put precaution into place. Precaution to this one is that I am running duplicates or triplicated for oils since half of April.

So even if I accidentally pipette twice the amount / less amount into one of the vials, it will be determined by different result between duplicates/triplicates.

So everything past, present, and future has been human error?

 

[Brawny]

What is your formula for that? Add 2, divide by 3.14 multiply by 1.76 and so forth? Can't make it too obvious.

Jano uses the Davinci code to do all testing

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I will let you all form your own opinions. Then after I wake up this afternoon I will entertain questions.

Same sample.

Testing from w&m coming at anytime as well to compare (not sent in by me).

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I missed this earlier. Both reports say the testing was done on May 4. Why come we didn’t see this sooner? Or is that a revised date? The overdosed report was released right away but the underdosed report comes out now? Who was sitting on it?
@Joedaddy5150
@TitaniumGear (TGI)
@janoshik

 

[janoshik]

Retirement should probably be the next plan you put into place!

It is already planned. Won't be around much longer.

So everything past, present, and future has been human error?

Not everything, out of the top of my head troubles were caused by one of my chemical suppliers about year ago, when I was delivered a bad batch of solvents for example.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

Jano uses the Davinci code to do all testing

You got what I was trying to go with. Jano shit on it though. Jerk @janoshik

 

[Brawny]

I missed this earlier. Both reports say the testing was done on May 4. Why come we didn’t see this sooner? Or is that a revised date? The overdosed report was released right away but the underdosed report comes out now? Who was sitting on it?
@Joedaddy5150
@TitaniumGear (TGI)
@janoshik

At this point I’d
200+400/2 = 300 lol

 

[T-Bagger]

At this point I’d
200+400/2 = 300 lol

Sounds about right

 

[janoshik]

I missed this earlier. Both reports say the testing was done on May 4. Why come we didn’t see this sooner? Or is that a revised date? The overdosed report was released right away but the underdosed report comes out now? Who was sitting on it?
@Joedaddy5150
@TitaniumGear (TGI)
@janoshik

There's raw data with all the timestamps posted by me under it.

Timeline:
4. 5. 2019 5:02:00 1st test is ran
4. 5. 2019 11:47:34 data is processed
4. 5. 2019 about 4-5 PM report 400 mg is email to Brian.
4. 5. 2019 about 6 PM Brian asks for retest, I think he tells me the sample is supposed to be 300 mg/ml
4. 5. 2019 18:08:17 retest is ran, result 200 mg/ml
4. 5. 2019 18:33:54 I start scratching my head and swear a lot
4. 5. 2019 18:42:17 second retest is done, I realize that I was probably tired to death at 5 AM and pipetted twice into the same vial therefore the result was almost exactly twice the real amount
4. 5. 2019 about 18:45 report is fixed to 200 mg/ml and emailed

 

[iceman440]

I have done many different types of errors and after each one of them was figured out I put precaution into place. Precaution to this one is that I am running duplicates or triplicated for oils since half of April.

So even if I accidentally pipette twice the amount / less amount into one of the vials, it will be determined by different result between duplicates/triplicates.

So everything past, present, and future has been human error?

 

[janoshik]

So everything past, present, and future has been human error?

Err, I already replied when you asked the first time?

 

[Wrath]

At this point I’d
200+400/2 = 300 lol

unreal... duplicate or triplicate.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

There's raw data with all the timestamps posted by me under it.

Timeline:
4. 5. 2019 5:02:00 1st test is ran
4. 5. 2019 11:47:34 data is processed
4. 5. 2019 about 4-5 PM report 400 mg is email to Brian.
4. 5. 2019 about 6 PM Brian asks for retest, I think he tells me the sample is supposed to be 300 mg/ml
4. 5. 2019 18:08:17 retest is ran, result 200 mg/ml
4. 5. 2019 18:33:54 I start scratching my head and swear a lot
4. 5. 2019 18:42:17 second retest is done, I realize that I was probably tired to death at 5 AM and pipetted twice into the same vial
4. 5. 2019 about 18:45 report is fixed to 200 mg/ml and emailed

I follow you. I also think you know what you’re doing better than anyone else here. But... pipette twice? How’s that happen and how does that effect the concentration?

 

[janoshik]

I follow you. I also think you know what you’re doing better than anyone else here. But... pipette twice? How’s that happen and how does that effect the concentration?

Processing samples:
10 microliters of oil is pipetted into a vial and 990 microliters of chloroform is added.

What I have probably done here (only explanation I could figure out):
10 microliters of oil is pipetted into a vial then 10 microliters is pipetted into a vial again then 990 microliters of chloroform is added.

Therefore there is twice the amount of oil in there, which results to twice the concentration.

 

[mp46]

If you start double or tripping every test you’re either making no money or your margins are through the fuckin roof to begin with.

 

[Oregongearhead]

I hope you guys are smart enough here to know when to BAIL !!
~Ogh

 

[janoshik]

If you start double or tripping every test you’re either making no money or your margins are through the fuckin roof to begin with.

Yes, my margin right now sucks enough that I might as well hike the prices or retire.

 

[iceman440]

So if the mistakes are made by you, what is to ensure you don’t make a different mistake on the 2nd retest.

What is the error process for you? How do we take your human error out of it?

I am not saying your test is wrong, this could be tits fault as well.

 

[Brawny]

I hope you guys are smart enough here to know when to BAIL !!
~Ogh

At this point the chemist is far more suspect than the source