Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

[mp46]

Incase you missed it.

Whether that distinct difference excuses the comment TGI made I’m not advocating for or against, I’ll let everyone else debate that.

@mp46
And again, still in no way does this absolve tgi of his behavior. Zero chance any of his actions are justifiable because of this.

Tgi fucked up, he fucked up to an insane degree. For some reason people are following this source up his creek with any paddles.

and what is this really eluding to? Take what chance? Not going to extremes because someone made a threat? Again, all if this is insane. So at the very least the offending person needs to be intimidated, worst case what? Killed? What happens when tgi fanbois go to take care of business and get lit up by a gun? Worth that little bit of Bitcoin that was offered?

Jesus Christ, take a step back and realize what is being said here. This is all over an online drug dealer. A drug dealer.


hey, you fucking beta cuck follower, fuck off. Why is that a big worry? Maybe you can give a good answer? Oh wait, nobody has given one so you obviously can't copy what other people have posted.

TGI opsec is faulty beyond the point of utter failure or he is simply unhinged.

I still can't figure out how to connect LE hitting the streets looking for a narco dealer would end up being an issue for an online aas dealer that has good opsec. Unless there is more than that going on, it doesn't make sense.


Because there is an active campaign to destroy people's good names. I got involved for that reason, and have yet to see real proof of what is being claimed regarding good standing members. I have however seen real proof of claims against tgi. This isn't some dog and pony show.

Also what you seem to not understand is you don’t need to know anything about TGIs real identity to get the law involved, if they want to they can catch TGI in a few weeks with a few hundred man hours. But they don’t have reason to with a cost benefit analysis. But start throwing in things about narcotics and other shit and you’ve all if a sudden got their attention and they’ll invest that man power. Again, it’s not hard to catch a drug dealer online with the tightest emails how never leaks personal information. Maybe I’m jaded having been inside the post office or dealing with the feds, but it’s really not hard to figure out how it’s down if you put a little thought into it.

Is your freedom worth someone turning over info to the feds? Are you willing to take that chance? If you fucked with your drug dealer in the streets and threatened to turn them over what do you think would happen, would you even get a threat or would you just never wake up one day? Just because we all see AAS as something innocent doesn’t mean it is on any level and everyone’s freedom is at risk every day we fuck with it. Stop being so complacent.

 

[Iron Vett]

Ok let’s clear some things up.
1. Nobody ever took my email or sent things from it. MoreFyah claimed to send my “information” to LE under the threat of saying he would tell them I was running a steroid ring and evading taxes. Laughable. I didn’t consider the threat real. He sent me the emails detailing his “actions” from a fucking gmail account or some shit so I assumed he was full of shit; hanging his own name out there and all.

2. TGIs actual identity was never exposed by anybody, including MF, as far as I know. MF threatened him with the same thing as me. For TGI however, that’s a far different scenario than for me.

The “information” sent would’ve been Meso related correspondence, email addresses, etc.

@T-Bagger @ickyrica

So if I’m understanding this correctly, MF’s name and address, irl, came from an email that he personally sent out and wasn’t from any records from tgi?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

So if I’m understanding this correctly, MF’s name and address, irl, came from an email that he personally sent out and wasn’t from any records from tgi?

That is my understanding and I discussed this directly with TGI since we got the same threats and MF states directly that he was linking myself and TGI in his accusations.

MF literally sent me an email with his own fucking name on it, which is easily found on Facebook and such. As far as TGI, he made the threat IN THE EMAIL CHAIN he’s used to order which shows his address (MF clearly saves emails).

let’s hop of the OPSEC band wagon like we’re internet super spies and take the situation for what it is. Is any of it excusable? No. Would I have done the same thing? Not sure, but still considering dropping by MFs place of employment for a laugh next time I’m in his home state.

 

[movingiron88]

All you source loving fan boys remember, TGI is a drug dealer and you fags fell in love with a drug dealer and are willing to take up arms for a drug dealer that would forget about you in a minute. When your love affair ends, find another forum. A source board would be more welcoming to you.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

All you source loving fan boys remember, TGI is a drug dealer and you fags fell in love with a drug dealer and are willing to take up arms for a drug dealer that would forget about you in a minute. When your love affair ends, find another forum. A source board would be more welcoming to you.

Always one of you to pop up right as we discuss actual events and facts as opposed to speculation and conspiracy theories. Quiet. When we’re done you can carry on blowing the “love for a source” shit out of proportion.

Also, lest we forget, we’re all drug users.

 

[ickyrica]

Incase you missed it.





Also what you seem to not understand is you don’t need to know anything about TGIs real identity to get the law involved, if they want to they can catch TGI in a few weeks with a few hundred man hours. But they don’t have reason to with a cost benefit analysis. But start throwing in things about narcotics and other shit and you’ve all if a sudden got their attention and they’ll invest that man power. Again, it’s not hard to catch a drug dealer online with the tightest emails how never leaks personal information. Maybe I’m jaded having been inside the post office or dealing with the feds, but it’s really not hard to figure out how it’s down if you put a little thought into it.

Is your freedom worth someone turning over info to the feds? Are you willing to take that chance? If you fucked with your drug dealer in the streets and threatened to turn them over what do you think would happen, would you even get a threat or would you just never wake up one day? Just because we all see AAS as something innocent doesn’t mean it is on any level and everyone’s freedom is at risk every day we fuck with it. Stop being so complacent.

Didn't miss it, and still don't agree with your assessment. Do you not think tgi is in Federal sowing circles currently, as in them prior to any suspected rat activity? Are you really that empty in the logic department? Need to have random morons from online to tip off LE before he is at risk? You're argument falls short.

But they don’t have reason to with a cost benefit analysis.

this is something I want to address specifically. We are discussing large scale importing, manufacturing, distribution, money laundering, etc. You are peddling opinion here and other members need to be aware how incorrect this statement is.

So if I’m understanding this correctly, MF’s name and address, irl, came from an email that he personally sent out and wasn’t from any records from tgi

MF personal info was sent via email by tgi to meso member(s). Real money was offered. I don't know how many people are involved (and don't really care to keep digging to find out, I'm tired of all this garbage) but tgi most certainly had zero problem with this activity. I've seen the emails that confirm his activity. like I've stated before, this isn't a dog and pony show anymore. There is real proof at this point

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Didn't miss it, and still don't agree with your assessment. Do you not think tgi is in Federal sowing circles currently, as in them prior to any suspected rat activity? Are you really that empty in the logic department? Need to have random morons from online to tip off LE before he is at risk? You're argument falls short.

this is something I want to address specifically. We are discussing large scale importing, manufacturing, distribution, money laundering, etc. You are peddling opinion here and other members need to be aware how incorrect this statement is.

MF personal info was sent via email by tgi to meso member(s). Real money was offered. I don't know how many people are involved (and don't really care to keep digging to find out, I'm tired of all this garbage) but tgi most certainly had zero problem with this activity. I've seen the emails that confirm his activity. like I've stated before, this isn't a dog and pony show anymore. There is real proof at this point

That matter was never a dog and pony show. TGI outted himself on that one. There was never an argument of if it was real or not. He 100% considered having someone hurt for threats made against him.

 

[mp46]

Didn't miss it, and still don't agree with your assessment. Do you not think tgi is in Federal sowing circles currently, as in them prior to any suspected rat activity? Are you really that empty in the logic department? Need to have random morons from online to tip off LE before he is at risk? You're argument falls short.

I know he is, so is every source, it’s the level of involvement or importance they put on it. A source peddling AAS or a source peddling AAS and narcotics, which one do you think they’re good to put more time into?

this is something I want to address specifically. We are discussing large scale importing, manufacturing, distribution, money laundering, etc. You are peddling opinion here and other members need to be aware how incorrect this statement is.

It’s all speculation how much an agency is going to invest in tracking any source. And your statement that they’re putting x amount into it because of whatever charge is just as much speculation.

MF personal info was sent via email by tgi to meso member(s). Real money was offered. I don't know how many people are involved (and don't really care to keep digging to find out, I'm tired of all this garbage) but tgi most certainly had zero problem with this activity. I've seen the emails that confirm his activity. like I've stated before, this isn't a dog and pony show anymore. There is real proof at this point

MF also sent his info to people besides TGI. And here’s a tip: if you don’t want threats of getting fucked up how about you don’t threaten your drug dealer. It’s funny when people come in and “remind us” that TGI, or any source, is nothing but a drug dealer then flip out when they pull a move to protect themselves. We may order on the internet but it’s all very real.

 

[ickyrica]

That matter was never a dog and pony show. TGI outted himself on that one. There was never an argument of if it was real or not. He 100% considered having someone hurt for threats made against him.

yes, but in no way should MF have any responsibility for his info becoming public. That's 100 % on tgi and/or associates. I hate MF, trust me, but he didn't release his info publicly. Tgi specifically sent MF info out in an effort to inflict damage. That's what was specifically asked:

came from an email that he personally sent out

 

[ickyrica]

I know he is, so is every source, it’s the level of involvement or importance they put on it. A source peddling AAS or a source peddling AAS and narcotics, which one do you think they’re good to put more time into?

Keep arguing something that doesn't matter. We're well past this point in the discussion

 

[Mac11wildcat]

yes, but in no way should MF have any responsibility for his info becoming public. That's 100 % on tgi and/or associates. I hate MF, trust me, but he didn't release his info publicly. Tgi specifically sent MF info out in an effort to inflict damage. That's what was specifically asked:

That’s hard to reconcile when you consider he threatened a drug dealer (as everyone keeps pointing out). He was also absolutely cavalier with his identity. I knew who he was WELL before the TGI thing came out.

i just find it hard to claim someone’s a drug dealer and a bad guy (while you use their services mind you) and be surprised that when threatened actions might be taken to avoid being at risk.

he knew what he did wasn’t “good for the community” and was a poor choice and left.

 

[mp46]

Keep arguing something that doesn't matter. We're well past this point in the discussion

Keep arguing it? We’re well past it? I simply responded to your most recent comment. That sounds more like a bullshit back-step because your comments add zero value.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

@mp46 @ickyrica my interactions with both of you lead me to believe you’re both decent guys, at least at face value.

Just drop it.

 

[mp46]

I don’t even need to be a drug dealer to take action when someone threatens me, my family, or my livelihood. Make any threat and I’m looking for more info to assess claims and risk.

 

[MaskedLiberty]

God damn you guys are wasting a lot of time in here...

 

[ickyrica]

Keep arguing it? We’re well past it

ok, I'll oblige.

You're claiming LE priorities regarding aas related crimes are only really going to be an issue if narcotic activities are present. You've made that painfully clear.

Why does the federal government increase spending regarding the fight against anabolics yearly? Just to keep pulling tax dollars away from us or to actually fight crime? Or is it because of another covert reason that only your fed people know about? I can dig up all the statistics in the world regarding this but you'll just repeat the same emotionally driven shit you've been saying.

Do me a favor and if you want to continue this conversation dig up some facts to maybe substantiate your claims.

My facts are on

Govinfo.com

and can't be refuted.

Take a guess as to what the federal budget is yearly to combat anabolics? Seriously. Take a guess. Maybe go read about things before you type.

It’s all speculation how much an agency is going to invest in tracking any source. And your statement that they’re putting x amount into it because of whatever charge is just as much speculation.

I didn't say anything about a dollar figure being used to combat a source. please show me this lol. I do believe you're now either making things up or you're confused about who said what. Oh and I have no clue how much is allocated to each source. I'm willing to bet it's not an even distribution system. My guess is popular, flashy and life threatening sources get noticed regardless of what guys like MF email to them.

Maybe I’m jaded having been inside the post office or dealing with the feds,

and I'm sitting in the tip oneil building right now, working in a federal agencies office. You want me to ask the DEA office a few floors away what they think about your comment? What do you think the response would be?

Keep in mind this is all over an internet drug dealer throwing a tantrum. Like a butthurt child.

 

[mp46]

ok, I'll oblige.

You're claiming LE priorities regarding aas related crimes are only really going to be an issue if narcotic activities are present. You've made that painfully clear.

Why does the federal government increase spending regarding the fight against anabolics yearly? Just to keep pulling tax dollars away from us or to actually fight crime? Or is it because of another covert reason that only your fed people know about? I can dig up all the statistics in the world regarding this but you'll just repeat the same emotionally driven shit you've been saying.

Do me a favor and if you want to continue this conversation dig up some facts to maybe substantiate your claims.

My facts are on

Govinfo.com

and can't be refuted.

Take a guess as to what the federal budget is yearly to combat anabolics? Seriously. Take a guess. Maybe go read about things before you type.
I didn't say anything about a dollar figure being used to combat a source. please show me this lol. I do believe you're now either making things up or you're confused about who said what. Oh and I have no clue how much is allocated to each source. I'm willing to bet it's not an even distribution system. My guess is popular, flashy and life threatening sources get noticed regardless of what guys like MF email to them.

and I'm sitting in the tip oneil building right now, working in a federal agencies office. You want me to ask the DEA office a few floors away what they think about your comment? What do you think the response would be?

Keep in mind this is all over an internet drug dealer throwing a tantrum. Like a butthurt child.

Never claimed they ignore AAS only sales, only that they would put priority over investigations on sources also dealing in narcotics. Also never claimed you mentioned any dollar amount. “X amount” refers to all resources not just money.

Nice rant though.

 

[ickyrica]

Never claimed they ignore AAS only sales, only that they would put priority over investigations on sources also dealing in narcotics. Also never claimed you mentioned any dollar amount. “X amount” refers to all resources not just money.

Nice rant though.

Where did I say ignore? Seriously, you're at the point of mincing words and deflecting. GTFO of here chump.

Do you get a cape from TGI to play superhero? Captain Deflector.

It's worthless to reply, not going to entertain you anymore. My focus is back on ej911 and how to get his info out to the public without jeopardizing his security. Matter of time.

MMGA

Make Meso Great Again. 2020

 

[mp46]

Where did I say ignore? Seriously, you're at the point of mincing words and deflecting. GTFO of here chump.

Do you get a cape from TGI to play superhero? Captain Deflector.

It's worthless to reply, not going to entertain you anymore. My focus is back on ej911 and how to get his info out to the public without jeopardizing his security. Matter of time.

MMGA

Make Meso Great Again. 2020

It was the very first sentence where you accused me of that claim.

 

[Millard]

Not at all.. just saying it was for more reasons than “hurting his business”

@Millard he wasn’t just harming his business he was out right snitching and threatening to call LE.

It's irrelevant. He operates outside the rule of law. @TitaniumGear (TGI) made the decision that physical violence was a solution to his business problems. It's all a slippery slope after that.

How much violence?

A bloodied nose. A broken leg. A bullet in the arm. Internal organ damage. Murder.

Which problems are to be dealt with violence?

Police raiding his house. Customer reports him to police. Customer doxxes him. Customer makes threats.

At the very least, when you have a steroid source that advertises the fact that he uses violence as part of his arsenal to deal with people who cross him, it sends the message to all current and future customers: don't fuck with me.