Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Look, I tried to explain to you this isn't a source board. If a new startup come in here his ass is held to the fire. Yeah dumb shit like show the tits and ass but I've never seen a legitimate source that actually did that. Once a source does make it here we still ride their ass and hold them to a high standard. Why? Because they can flake at any time. They are drug dealers after all not our fuck buddies. Of course it would be stupid for an established source to come here because THIS ISN'T A SOURCE BOARD. Maybe Meso isn't for you.

You fed the Sworder. You lose.

 

[cochino]

You fed the Sworder. You lose.

I don't get out enough. You're right I should have listened.

 

[kropotkin]

You fed the Sworder. You lose.

BBBguy.......this isn't a source board and yet the underground is the 2nd most dominate source of messages on this forum.


You mentioned in your thread on "why Meso is so tough on sources" that other forums are groupies, but this forum is a small group of the same ten guys every day.

Who on here has any science education, any background in science at all? Jano does, but who else. When did any of these other guys become self appointed experts.

Keeping sources asses to the fire. With what, crappy results from labs without correlation and validation studies, using samples from the underground as calibrators without having peer labs to compare your data using the same equipment. We call that bullshit where I come from.

No one is keeping anyone on the up an up, because no one in this forum has the expertise to know what the fuck they're talking about.

Anyone on this forum have any experience running a lab? Anyone ever taken an analytical chemistry course?

 

[Oldschool]

BBBguy.......this isn't a source board and yet the underground is the 2nd most dominate source of messages on this forum.


You mentioned in your thread on "why Meso is so tough on sources" that other forums are groupies, but this forum is a small group of the same ten guys every day.

Who on here has any science education, any background in science at all? Jano does, but who else. When did any of these other guys become self appointed experts.

Keeping sources asses to the fire. With what, crappy results from labs without correlation and validation studies, using samples from the underground as calibrators without having peer labs to compare your data using the same equipment. We call that bullshit where I come from.

No one is keeping anyone on the up an up, because no one in this forum has the expertise to know what the fuck they're talking about.

Anyone on this forum have any experience running a lab? Anyone ever taken an analytical chemistry course?

No source does the things you speak of. Not one. And what experience do you have in any of the above? None. All you do is post a bunch of babbling bullshit out of your moms basement and walk around with cum dripping out of your ass. Lol. Face it sworder, the things your dad did to you when you were young were hurtful to you in the beginning. Now that he has passed you miss the fondling don’t you? I bet you kept one of his shit and piss stained diapers to sniff while you masturbate.

It’s ok sworder. We are all here for you. Take a deep breath and just let it go.

 

[kropotkin]

No source does the things you speak of. Not one. And what experience do you have in any of the above? None. All you do is post a bunch of babbling bullshit out of your moms basement and walk around with cum dripping out of your ass. Lol. Face it sworder, the things your dad did to you when you were young were hurtful to you in the beginning. Now that he has passed you miss the fondling don’t you? I bet you kept one of his shit and piss stained diapers to sniff while you masturbate.

It’s ok sworder. We are all here for you. Take a deep breath and just let it go.

I've got 25 years of experience doing the above, granted in a hospital lab, but the principles are the same.

The problem with keeping sources ass to the fire is you have no means by which to do this. If the goal is to generate data that's never gonna be a problem. Labs all across the world cook the books, I can produce whatever result you want on any equipment you want, you want higher results I can simply let the sample evaporate at room temperature for however long it takes while running the sample over and over until I get my preferred result. You want a lower result just add the proper diluent and presto.

Until you have peer data, until you have known samples that you can send off to multiple labs for proficiency testing every 4 to 6 months. All you have is numbers on a sheet of paper.

Who's producing the controls for this testing, are the assayed, unassayed, where do they come from? Without controls that are tested by peer labs you'll never know if you're hitting your target mean.

 

[kropotkin]

My point isn't to be harsh, my point is that Meso is fooling itself if it thinks it's accomplishing harm reduction.

It's fooling itself if it thinks having lab results means the source is doing their due diligence.

Unless you have experts inspect these Chinese labs to make sure everything is being done correctly, you really can't know how far off you are from having the product you think you have.

So we all basically have faith and nothing more that what we are injecting is fine. And that's good enough for me. It's UGL, but I would never assume that there was a way to quality control with the current methods we have at our disposal, unless we can access an accredited lab that is willing to do all sorts of testing that gets quite expensive and labor intensive to validate the results.

So is Meso's harm reduction goal a fallacy, a false belief, would it not be better to recognize this as a hokus pokus, deceptive nonsense where we have all fooled ourselves into believing in the power of Meso to save the day.

We are all Class C Felons, it's time to face it folks, the game is up.

 

[kropotkin]

 

[janoshik]

Most serious professionals won't engage in infantile behavior.

Who on here has any science education, any background in science at all? Jano does, but who else. When did any of these other guys become self appointed experts.

I'm incredibly torn here between being insulted and flattered

 

[Villain]

I'll tell you why you don't have any, Meso often treats them like dogshit.

I don't want to make a personal attack, but this place is rude as fuck to the sources. I know that's not the purpose of this forum, but if you don't have sources that stick around then what's the point.

Don't ask a source to show tits and ass, don't be rude to them when they introduce themselves.

Testing through accredited labs.....there are none, it's hit and miss and sloppy at best. Most all of the raws for all sources are coming from the same China lab, we all know which lab that is. I'm all for testing, but testing right now sucks, it feels like you're pissing your money away for nothing unless you can submit to two labs and get similar results.

I know of at least a dozen quality sources that sell on other forums and they won't come to Meso and they've been in the business for many years, but they simply refuse to subject themselves to a bukkakke gangbang no cum dodging routine that they know will be served up at Meso.

So be nice, inviting, understanding, polite and respectful and you'll have more sources.

Shut the fuck up. This isn’t a source board, so take your “be nice, inviting, understanding, polite and respectful” comment and shove it up your ass and get a clue what Meso is about.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Until you have peer data, until you have known samples that you can send off to multiple labs for proficiency testing every 4 to 6 months. All you have is numbers on a sheet of paper.

Ok, make you a deal: when Bayer or Aspen start selling here in the underground we’ll all chip in and pay for an exhaustive peer-reviewed study that eventually will get published in JAMA. Until then the people here will do what they can to get as much information as possible to potential buyers. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

 

[jackmeoff1]

This isn’t a source board in the sense that sources rent space to vend. But we all know that it is a source board. You’re kidding yourself if you believe otherwise. I can scroll down the first page and have pretty much any PED I want delivered to my house by the end of this week.

 

[Bigboy727]

Ok Meso is the best source board with the most jacked dudes with war clubs for dicks you can find anywhere on the internet. Glad and proud to apart of this elite group! This should end this fight.

 

[napaulm]

I've got 25 years of experience doing the above, granted in a hospital lab, but the principles are the same.

The problem with keeping sources ass to the fire is you have no means by which to do this. If the goal is to generate data that's never gonna be a problem. Labs all across the world cook the books, I can produce whatever result you want on any equipment you want, you want higher results I can simply let the sample evaporate at room temperature for however long it takes while running the sample over and over until I get my preferred result. You want a lower result just add the proper diluent and presto.

Until you have peer data, until you have known samples that you can send off to multiple labs for proficiency testing every 4 to 6 months. All you have is numbers on a sheet of paper.

Who's producing the controls for this testing, are the assayed, unassayed, where do they come from? Without controls that are tested by peer labs you'll never know if you're hitting your target mean.

true. there's no testing results here, u got labs been here for a long time, no one's testing their shit at all. ive used 3-4 sources here, thinking that the vetting i so good they must be good labs....only titanium gave me good results on blood tests..every other lab came back shitty multiples on test levels, i got nothing out of their so-called "tren" and "npp"....underdosed or fake.....been pinning since 2006, i know what does what.
these idiots here think they know it all. look at the members pics...obviously they do not. they all talk shit with zero to back it up, call other boards/sources scams, fakes...look at your own sources here. wake up, kids.
cheap gear = cheap gear. but blame jano for faking results while yall think 4x multiples are good test results? dumbasses. thats good for trough levels, not peak. learn something before u show your ignorance.
i miss the old days when gauls and ip gear were the shit.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Holy fuck
Dude just shut up lmfao

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

true. there's no testing results here, u got labs been here for a long time, no one's testing their shit at all. ive used 3-4 sources here, thinking that the vetting i so good they must be good labs....only titanium gave me good results on blood tests..every other lab came back shitty multiples on test levels, i got nothing out of their so-called "tren" and "npp"....underdosed or fake.....been pinning since 2006, i know what does what.
these idiots here think they know it all. look at the members pics...obviously they do not. they all talk shit with zero to back it up, call other boards/sources scams, fakes...look at your own sources here. wake up, kids.
cheap gear = cheap gear. but blame jano for faking results while yall think 4x multiples are good test results? dumbasses. thats good for trough levels, not peak. learn something before u show your ignorance.
i miss the old days when gauls and ip gear were the shit.

Yea dude, you made your point clear last year? Is there something about October that makes you bitchy?

bloods on 600/wk test e are 2900.
way low, lowest multiple ive ever had.
dont care enuff to post the paper, dont really give a shit about this forum or its sources anymore. i'll leave u all to acting like the stupid niggers u are.

Take it for what it is. The reason TGI was good was the vetting. He listened. He had all his raws tested. He had all his finished products tested. He encouraged other guys to test his products too for credit. He did things the correct way.

Blood testing is good for testosterone but useless for all the other products. If you have better solutions for shit then lets hear them. Or are you one of those dudes that likes to just point out problems?

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

yall think 4x multiples are good test results?

I get a 4.5x multiple on my TRT dose. Do you...do you think Jano is faking results for Perrigo as well?

 

[El Capitan]

My point isn't to be harsh, my point is that Meso is fooling itself if it thinks it's accomplishing harm reduction.

It's fooling itself if it thinks having lab results means the source is doing their due diligence.

Unless you have experts inspect these Chinese labs to make sure everything is being done correctly, you really can't know how far off you are from having the product you think you have.

So we all basically have faith and nothing more that what we are injecting is fine. And that's good enough for me. It's UGL, but I would never assume that there was a way to quality control with the current methods we have at our disposal, unless we can access an accredited lab that is willing to do all sorts of testing that gets quite expensive and labor intensive to validate the results.

So is Meso's harm reduction goal a fallacy, a false belief, would it not be better to recognize this as a hokus pokus, deceptive nonsense where we have all fooled ourselves into believing in the power of Meso to save the day.

We are all Class C Felons, it's time to face it folks, the game is up.

You have harm ‘reduction’ and ‘elimination’ confused.

 

[Test_Subject]

I get a 4.5x multiple on my TRT dose. Do you...do you think Jano is faking results for Perrigo as well?

My TRT is 175mg a week and I come back at around 1000-1100. That's well under the "7X or it's bunk" bro science.

Apparently Pfizer needs to step their game up? I guess SHBG isn't a thing?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

You have harm ‘reduction’ and ‘elimination’ confused.

Hes just a super confused guy.
Bit of a tool bag as well

 

[Blange89]

@kropotkin You sound like you must have been a source that was ran out of here.