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geauxtiger said:
i am thinking of running tren a. what do i need to take with it? i heard you can take nolva or letro. i don't know which is best for 75 e.o.d. (tren) and 2ml/2x week of sust.
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Well I'd back off the letro.. Take adex or aromasin to control estro.. So 4ml/week sust?

Depending on gyno symptoms and history you should take the nolva between 10mg-40mg ED.

Everybody's different, I need .75mg adex and 40mg nolva everyday on cycle to ward that shit off.. King on the other hand is also gyno prone and gets away with using a lot less adex/nolva..

EDIT: Just reread your post, I don't believe tren causes gyno.
 
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johnnyBALLZ said:
Well I'd back off the letro.. Take adex or aromasin to control estro.. So 4ml/week sust?

Depending on gyno symptoms and history you should take the nolva between 10mg-40mg ED.

Everybody's different, I need .75mg adex and 40mg nolva everyday on cycle to ward that shit off.. King on the other hand is also gyno prone and gets away with using a lot less adex/nolva..

EDIT: Just reread your post, I don't believe tren causes gyno.
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i was just thinking about the prop in the sust. do u think 100mg/3x week would be better? thanks for the help
 
geauxtiger said:
i was just thinking about the prop in the sust. do u think 100mg/3x week would be better? thanks for the help
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Through my research I concluded it best to run tren higher than test but I've also seen others swear by the other way around.. My advice would be start low on the tren to see how you react then up it and drop test down.
 
Ugghhh!! Day 19.. I'm down another 4 pounds from 3 days ago!! 216 lbs!! :eek:

Strength is dropping, and I feel that the incredible shrinking man!! [:o)]

I feel good but WTF is this shit.. Libido is pretty low too and it's work to get a woody.. :( Damn near impossible to get a nut off..

I don't know about this torem.. Last cycle I went from 190 to 222.5 and didn't lose a freaking pound in PCT (clomid+nolva) had no libido problems either.. I'm eating and training the same as I was on cycle.. What gives?!?! :confused:

I'm probably going to get labs done next week to see where my LH and shit is at.. If this Torem is bunk imma be PISSED!! [}:)]:mad:
 
johnnyBALLZ said:
Ugghhh!! Day 19.. I'm down another 4 pounds from 3 days ago!! 216 lbs!! :eek:

Strength is dropping, and I feel that the incredible shrinking man!! [:o)]

I feel good but WTF is this shit.. Libido is pretty low too and it's work to get a woody.. :( Damn near impossible to get a nut off..

I don't know about this torem.. Last cycle I went from 190 to 222.5 and didn't lose a freaking pound in PCT (clomid+nolva) had no libido problems either.. I'm eating and training the same as I was on cycle.. What gives?!?! :confused:

I'm probably going to get labs done next week to see where my LH and shit is at.. If this Torem is bunk imma be PISSED!! [}:)]:mad:
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If u don't mind me asking were did u get the torem? My friend swears by tren and he uses the levtro 12.5. My spelling is wrong i think on the levtro.
 
johnnyBALLZ said:
Ugghhh!! Day 19.. I'm down another 4 pounds from 3 days ago!! 216 lbs!! :eek:

Strength is dropping, and I feel that the incredible shrinking man!! [:o)]

I feel good but WTF is this shit.. Libido is pretty low too and it's work to get a woody.. :( Damn near impossible to get a nut off..

I don't know about this torem.. Last cycle I went from 190 to 222.5 and didn't lose a freaking pound in PCT (clomid+nolva) had no libido problems either.. I'm eating and training the same as I was on cycle.. What gives?!?! :confused:

I'm probably going to get labs done next week to see where my LH and shit is at.. If this Torem is bunk imma be PISSED!! [}:)]:mad:
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I am officially in a terrified day 5 of pct... terrified since reading your post.

Sorry dude- that sucks.
 
Yeah I know what you mean. I am using torem now on cycle and I am not having any issues. Now I know there's a difference between pct and on cycle therapy but my nips actually look better than they ever have. I am taking 30mgs ed on this cycle. I get a slight tenderness in my left nip but all in all I am really pleased with my experience this far with torem. I am using mjr.
 
Zaphod said:
You had a issue with their ralox? Damn I have some.
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Yes, 1-4 and I tried a pretty high dose of it for a few weeks and for both of us gyno got worse.. Switched back to nolva and back under control pretty quick.

See the ralox wasn't a clear colored liquid.. Neither is the torem.. They're milky..

I've never had any issues with any of their non "milky" products..

Anyway, I don't really want to speculate.. LABS next week.
 
On my way out for a special night on the town with the wife... Man she's looking good..

I hate this shit!!!!!! I'm worried I might not be UP to par later.. [:o)]
Banged 4 freaking milligrams of that pt141 an hour ago.. Hoping for a miracle..

Night night boys!!!
 
Who rocked the mother fucking house?!?!?! Johnny did!! :D:cool:

I swung that D, HARD, for close to an hour(still can't bust)... My shit hasn't been this hard in weeks!! Maybe the pt141 is just underdosed and not bunk... 4mg is a ridiculously high dose but I'm still a rock and could poke holes in the drywall at the moment!! :eek:

I'm a little twisted right now so I'll write more tomorrow but wow.... What a night.. [|)]

Thanks for the support CS.. ;)
 
johnnyBALLZ said:
Who rocked the mother fucking house?!?!?! Johnny did!! :D:cool:

I swung that D, HARD, for close to an hour(still can't bust)... My shit hasn't been this hard in weeks!! Maybe the pt141 is just underdosed and not bunk... 4mg is a ridiculously high dose but I'm still a rock and could poke holes in the drywall at the moment!! :eek:

I'm a little twisted right now so I'll write more tomorrow but wow.... What a night.. [|)]

Thanks for the support CS.. ;)
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You can do it bobby busche. (in my best adam sandler voice)
 
geauxtiger said:
i am thinking of running tren a. what do i need to take with it? i heard you can take nolva or letro. i don't know which is best for 75 e.o.d. (tren) and 2ml/2x week of sust.
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Tren can stimulate progestin receptors in the nipples being a 19 nor derivative, also can increase prolactin, so cabergoline or pramipexole is a good choice to run with it.
 
Day 23

Got labs done today, should have the results tomorrow.. Feeling good but libido still pretty low... I can perform though, actually only had an issue once last week where it took a few minutes to get it going.

Weight is still at 216 lbs which is good considering I was busy and didn't eat as much this past weekend.. Got that back on track yesterday though..

I can't wait until I see these labs tomorrow..
 
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