Trenbolone prevents weight loss?

[lunarloom2500]

I‘m on Test/Tren/Mast (250/300/250). My maintenance is roughly 4.000 calories. At least that’s the amount of food I used to eat on TRT before the current cutting cycle to keep my weight.

Stats: 5'10" / 205lbs / 14-16% bodyfat

I‘m eating 2.000 calories (300/160/20 - Protein/Carbs/Fat) per day when I‘m working out (5x per week) and 950 on rest days (PSMF). Theoretically that should put me into a weekly deficit of 16.100 calories, which would translate to about 4.5lbs of fat loss per week, probably even more because my activity levels are higher now.

However, my weight has been dropping at a much slower rate. Only 1-1.5lbs per week.

I know what you think: "this retard can‘t track his food accurately." Trust me, my tracking is extremely accurate and precise.

I have some theories as to why I‘m not losing weight fast enough.

1. Trenbolone was originally designed to accumulate more mass on cows with less food. Could this mean it reduces your T3 production and therefore lowers your maintenance calories?

2. I‘m building muscle while losing fat. Probably unlikely, but I‘m not that huge, so maybe there’s something behind it.

What do you think? Should I do a blood test to measure my T3 levels? I‘ve never had any problems with weight loss before using Tren.

 

[lukiss96]

How about instead of thinking bunch of theories you take some pictures and measurements, then record yourself on camera and compare to your previous pics in similar lighting?

Camera and mirror never lies bro, measurements are better than weight and more accurate to track, unless you know this is your weight where you look your best (usually works on a cruise).

P.S. always keep a log on your cut, it's easier when mindfucking begins and you think nothing changed it seems and then you notice your waist actually got smaller. Ditch the scales at least for now.

 

[Juicedhead]

Could be your calories are too low to quick. Your body is probabaly in shock and not responding. if your maintenance is 4k then start your cut at 3500.

 

[Xplicit]

Here is a quote from your thread in February.

Before I've started my first cycle I maintained my weight with 3300kcal per day. Now I‘m eating 3800kcal per day, but my weight has been stagnant for two weeks after the initial water weight gain of 6kg in 4-5 weeks.

Sounds to me like you dont actually know what amount of calories you maintain on.

Moreover, can we stop trying to turn this into rocket science? Eat less food, take your peds, workout hard and look in the mirror. Overthinking this a bit.

 

[lunarloom2500]

Here is a quote from your thread in February.



Sounds to me like you dont actually know what amount of calories you maintain on.

Moreover, can we stop trying to turn this into rocket science? Eat less food, take your peds, workout hard and look in the mirror. Overthinking this a bit.

I know my maintenance calories exactly. 3.300 as a natural, 3.800 on cycle without Tren and at a lower weight and 4.000 now / a few weeks ago.

I‘m just wondering how my weight doesn’t drop like crazy from eating like a bikini competitor.

 

[lunarloom2500]

Could be your calories are too low to quick. Your body is probabaly in shock and not responding. if your maintenance is 4k then start your cut at 3500.

Makes sense. I dropped my calorie intake to extreme levels because I assumed the Tren would take care of catabolism and I would burn fat quickly.

Honestly, I might just drop the Tren, maybe lose a minor amount of muscle (which comes back very soon after eating normally again) and achieve my desired rate of weight loss.

 

[lunarloom2500]

How about instead of thinking bunch of theories you take some pictures and measurements, then record yourself on camera and compare to your previous pics in similar lighting?

Camera and mirror never lies bro, measurements are better than weight and more accurate to track, unless you know this is your weight where you look your best (usually works on a cruise).

P.S. always keep a log on your cut, it's easier when mindfucking begins and you think nothing changed it seems and then you notice your waist actually got smaller. Ditch the scales at least for now.

Yeah, I didn’t think about measurements at all… Thanks for the suggestion.

As for progress pics, I look leaner and actually have a new stretch mark between my chest / delts, but the difference is not that mindblowing.

 

[Greenbay68]

My take- be happy with 1-1.5lb loss, or go harder.

If you’ve got a reason where you ‘need’ to lose 4.5lb per week, then just do 950 every day, pure protein for the short term. Fish, chicken, turkey.

950 calories is 235g of protein. Pair that with 300 tren, and you won’t be losing muscle.

We can talk all day about why the math doesn’t seem to add up. It’s fun, but the options are always the same: move more, eat less, or expect less.

 

[Sector]

I don't think crash dieting is ever the answer (you're just going to crash your metabolism as well) but as others have said, you're either overestimating your maintenance calories, or underestimating your actual calorie consumption, otherwise the weight would be coming off if the deficit math was actually true.

 

[ackmack78]

Don't take this as gospel on this but I don't think it's actually possible to lose 4.5lbs of fat a week. That's asking a lot of your body. Ya I get cals in cals out but it's possible your metabolism is just down regulating and burning fewer calories. Are you accounting for steps, neat, etc?
The most I've ever seen someone lose and these are much bigger guys is like 3lbs a week and no one ever knows if it's 100% fat.

Personally on a mini cut (3-4 weeks) I wouldn't go over a 1500 cal deficit per day and on a longer cut I wouldnt go over 1k deficit a day. Obviously w the longer cut you may need to drop cals as the diet continues to keep you deficit at 1k

 

[Juicedhead]

Makes sense. I dropped my calorie intake to extreme levels because I assumed the Tren would take care of catabolism and I would burn fat quickly.

Honestly, I might just drop the Tren, maybe lose a minor amount of muscle (which comes back very soon after eating normally again) and achieve my desired rate of weight loss.t

Its for sure not the tren.. Tren is amazing in a cut hense why everyone loves it but I bet youre just going too low with cals. Whats your cardio like?

 

[Juicedhead]

Don't take this as gospel on this but I don't think it's actually possible to lose 4.5lbs of fat a week. That's asking a lot of your body. Ya I get cals in cals out but it's possible your metabolism is just down regulating and burning fewer calories.
The most I've ever seen someone lose and these are much bigger guys is like 3lbs a week and no one ever knows if it's 100% f

And to add to this its going to depend a lot on your body and metabolism, liver health, digestion, all these things have to do with fat burning. So just because youve calculated thats how much you will lose doesnt mean you will actually lose that much.

 

[Eddie.]

If it was that easy to lose 4-5 pounds of fat per week then pro bodybuilders would just diet for 4-6 weeks with 1000cals per day and 1,5 gram tren. I think some guys just overestimate what drugs can do. Every coach i listened too suggests 0,5 - 1% of your bw per week is a reasonable pace of losing without compromising muscle mass.

 

[easterbunny]

I‘m on Test/Tren/Mast (250/300/250). My maintenance is roughly 4.000 calories. At least that’s the amount of food I used to eat on TRT before the current cutting cycle to keep my weight.

Stats: 5'10" / 205lbs / 14-16% bodyfat

I‘m eating 2.000 calories (300/160/20 - Protein/Carbs/Fat) per day when I‘m working out (5x per week) and 950 on rest days (PSMF). Theoretically that should put me into a weekly deficit of 16.100 calories, which would translate to about 4.5lbs of fat loss per week, probably even more because my activity levels are higher now.

However, my weight has been dropping at a much slower rate. Only 1-1.5lbs per week.

I know what you think: "this retard can‘t track his food accurately." Trust me, my tracking is extremely accurate and precise.

I have some theories as to why I‘m not losing weight fast enough.

1. Trenbolone was originally designed to accumulate more mass on cows with less food. Could this mean it reduces your T3 production and therefore lowers your maintenance calories?

2. I‘m building muscle while losing fat. Probably unlikely, but I‘m not that huge, so maybe there’s something behind it.

What do you think? Should I do a blood test to measure my T3 levels? I‘ve never had any problems with weight loss before using Tren.

Get your thyroid levels, especially T3, checked if you’re really concerned.

I‘ve had the same issue on my current Tren cycle so I‘ve added 50mcg T3 per day on Friday and I already noticed a difference. No more lethargy, losing weight again, faster digestion and even my mind feels like it has become sharper.

I will receive my pre T3 supplementation blood work soon, will be posted then.

 

[Tbl16]

I would agree the mirror and pictures are the best judge of progress. Not the scale. I have pictures from a couple years ago. The pictures are exactly three weeks apart and were taken at the start of my prep for a powerlifting competition and 3 weeks into the prep. While there wasn’t much of a difference in my weight, the physical difference in the pictures is pretty amazing. The width in both my chest and shoulders, along with the thickness in my shoulders and chest is extremely noticeable. The changes between the two pictures PED wise were an extra 200mg of test an week and 50mg of Anadrol a day.

Now we are all different and respond different but the pictures told a much different story than the scale. The scale would have led me to think I wasn’t making much progress. However, the pictures showed me the progress I was making. Also, as I’m not into body building but rather power lifting and functional strength my goals are just to be strong and look good naked lol.

 

[DECLAN]

Yeah, I didn’t think about measurements at all… Thanks for the suggestion.

As for progress pics, I look leaner and actually have a new stretch mark between my chest / delts, but the difference is not that mindblowing.

Maybe you’re not 14-16 bf, because if you’re not happy with 1.5lbs fat loss and aiming to get 4lbs at 205 lbs you’re fat af. 4 lbs a week for a 10 week cut is 40lbs total, you’re gonna be a skinny 160 lol.

Post up some pics for comparison or maybe aim for 1% loss per body weight, which obviously will slow down as you lose weight.

 

[KOArtist]

I never gain scale weight on tren

 

[Type-IIx]

I‘m on Test/Tren/Mast (250/300/250). My maintenance is roughly 4.000 calories. At least that’s the amount of food I used to eat on TRT before the current cutting cycle to keep my weight.

Stats: 5'10" / 205lbs / 14-16% bodyfat

I‘m eating 2.000 calories (300/160/20 - Protein/Carbs/Fat) per day when I‘m working out (5x per week) and 950 on rest days (PSMF). Theoretically that should put me into a weekly deficit of 16.100 calories, which would translate to about 4.5lbs of fat loss per week, probably even more because my activity levels are higher now.

However, my weight has been dropping at a much slower rate. Only 1-1.5lbs per week.

I know what you think: "this retard can‘t track his food accurately." Trust me, my tracking is extremely accurate and precise.

I have some theories as to why I‘m not losing weight fast enough.

1. Trenbolone was originally designed to accumulate more mass on cows with less food. Could this mean it reduces your T3 production and therefore lowers your maintenance calories?

2. I‘m building muscle while losing fat. Probably unlikely, but I‘m not that huge, so maybe there’s something behind it.

What do you think? Should I do a blood test to measure my T3 levels? I‘ve never had any problems with weight loss before using Tren.

Anabolic agents are anabolic

 

[TomGlass]

I never gain scale weight on tren

Huh? wachu mean big dawg? Has it always been this way with you and tren? I'm being serious. Do you only use tren for a cut?

 

[Trenlord]

I would incorporate actual fat burner like clen or dnp with injectable carnatine ed and GH rather than Tren
You can bring tren in for the last 4wks of the cut