TrenboloneTax: Hybrid Cycling / Lifting Log aka Make Hulk Bike Fast

[Trenbolonetax]

Hey All,

This will be my log detailing efforts to remain quite strong, large, and with a good physique while I push to get faster cycling. As I've detailed other places in the forum, I'm not interested in min maxing. I want my cake, and to eat it too. AAS will be fairly moderate. Training will not be optimal towards cycling or lifting. Nutrition will not be optimal towards min maxing lifting or cycling; I do very low carb as it what works best for my day to day life and mental acuity, something that is important for me to keep high given my career.

This is my 48th day back on AAS after a 7 month break where I came off everything except GH to get my wife pregnant. Tried megadosing HCG and HMG for 6 months while on trt test and still did not have sperm count budge, so bit the bullet.

Here is my current stack. I have issue leaving room in a 1ml syringe every morning....and that's not up for debate, I've got to fill it with oil. I've toyed with the idea of lowering EQ, bumping up test and mast by 10mg a piece but we'll see. I'm open to changing what oil goes in the syringe though if anyone has suggestions / alterations to current ratio. The BBuilder in me is saying "10mgs of tren a won't hurt cardio much" but the angel on my shoulder is telling me that will wreck my chances of maintaining fertility even with HCG + HMG. Decisions decisions.

30mg test p
30mg mast p
100 mg EQ
20mg anavar
80mg Telmisartan
5mg cialis
200mcg t4
10mg salbutamol
8iu GH
20mg Cardarine
600mg inj l carnitine
500iu HCG or 75iu HMG (alternating EoD; sometimes i forget which day I'm on and just do both...)
150mg armodafinil
~2mg retatrutide (daily avg. I do two 6mg shots per week)
2mg TB500
2mg BPC157

- i may consider throwing winstrol back in once knee is feeling 100%
- i may consider tbol to see if i get anything out of it
- i will be adding SLU-PP-332 today. probably something stupid like 1mg per day, lol. I did say I would drop cardarine when I did that, but i'm not sure I can part with bae.

Attached picture of current physique, taken today. 6'3'', 264 this AM post bike ride.

Training is 4x per week. push, pull, rest, lower, upper OR push, pull, rest, push, pull if my legs are gassed from a hard cycling week. 40 minute sessions.

Cycling is every day. Longer Z2 lower intensity or shorter higher intensity. What I do is based on feels, time and what seems more fun for the day.

Had what felt like a good ride this morning. In reality if any cyclists look at this they'll probably say it's dog shit, which is almost certainly true, lol.

questions, comments, concerns, whatever, ask away. curious to track my progress here.

 

[BuildABro]

Best of luck bro. I’ll be following along

 

[Benf15harp]

Lol your bike ride looks eerily similar to 1/3rd of my warmup.
Could you please find or make another thread to list the absurd amount of crap you’re taking again?
Where’s da bloodwork for all this?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Lol your bike ride looks eerily similar to 1/3rd of my warmup.
Could you please find or make another thread to list the absurd amount of crap you’re taking again?
Where’s da bloodwork for all this?

I was hoping you would show up! Why don’t you throw up your physique and stats? When you’re 150lbs soaking wet, cycling is a bit different, but you know that.

Not even sure why you act like I’m on a ton of gear. Everything serves a purpose. But cool story bro.

Why would I get blood work 48 days in? You’re welcome to go check out my natty blood work from 2.5 months ago. It’s somewhere on this forum. I’m sure you can find it, since you always find me lmao.

Damn you’re salty, and it really shows dude.

post fizeek and ride metrics. Put up or shut up, @Benf15harp

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Best of luck bro. I’ll be following along

Thanks dude. Gotta love the peanut gallery @Benf15harp acting like they aren’t 150lbs soaking wet with zero physique pics or ride metrics, lol.

 

[bjjgear]

Thanks for sharing the details; following.

Some people call it absurd, others think it's awesome LOL

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I’m 100% with the shit talk IF he posts ride metrics and physique pics + stats. Then at least it wouldn’t be pure trolling.

 

[bjjgear]

I used to be hardcore into cycling back in my triathlon days. I even competed at USAT Nationals one year. I've never felt healthier than when I was a skinny 145 lb endurance athlete.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I used to be hardcore into cycling back in my triathlon days. I even competed at USAT Nationals one year. I've never felt healthier than when I was a skinny 145 lb endurance athlete.

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Damn bro! Did not know that. Think I could learn a lot from you.

Lowest body weight I’ve been in recent memory is 240 during COVID with no gym + lots of cycling.

I was 185 going into high school…needless to say endurance sports are not my cup of tea from a frame perspective. But I’ve never felt healthier in recent memory than when I was 240 doing a bunch of cardio.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Well, I just created a solution of SLU-PP-332. 500mcg/ml. 120ml. Used Humco oral solution as the carrier. Closest I could weigh out was 68mg and got tired of trying to be more precise.

First dose of 500mcg down. Real curious about this stuff. One thing this experience has reinforced...I will never ever under any circumstances use UGL clen, t3, or t4, or any other compound that has the capacity to cause harm in the mcg dose amount.

Going to look at other solution vehicles cuz I feel like dissolving this in alcohol would probably be a better way to go.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Well, I just created a solution of SLU-PP-332. 500mcg/ml. 120ml. Used Humco oral solution as the carrier. Closest I could weigh out was 68mg and got tired of trying to be more precise.

First dose of 500mcg down. Real curious about this stuff. One thing this experience has reinforced...I will never ever under any circumstances use UGL clen, t3, or t4, or any other compound that has the capacity to cause harm in the mcg dose amount.

Going to look at other solution vehicles cuz I feel like dissolving this in alcohol would probably be a better way to go.

Replying to myself in case helpful to anyone else. SLU-PP-332 is soluble directly in ethanol per @kain. Also per @Ghoul, DMSO / PG mixture would work, too.

SLU-PP-332 | 99.50%(HPLC) | Estrogen/progestogen Receptor agonist

SLU-PP-332 is an agonist of pan-Estrogen Receptor/ERR with EC50 values of 98nM, 230nM, and 430 nM for ERRα, ERRβ, and ERRγ, respectively with the high... Quality confirmed by NMR & HPLC. See customer reviews, validations & product citations.

www.selleckchem.com

Now to wait for my solvents to arrive... I'll try and be patient. But I'll probably end up using more of the Humco solution till other solvents arrive later in the week.

 

[BuildABro]

Replying to myself in case helpful to anyone else. SLU-PP-332 is soluble directly in ethanol per @kain. Also per @Ghoul, DMSO / PG mixture would work, too.

SLU-PP-332 | 99.50%(HPLC) | Estrogen/progestogen Receptor agonist

SLU-PP-332 is an agonist of pan-Estrogen Receptor/ERR with EC50 values of 98nM, 230nM, and 430 nM for ERRα, ERRβ, and ERRγ, respectively with the high... Quality confirmed by NMR & HPLC. See customer reviews, validations & product citations.

www.selleckchem.com

Now to wait for my solvents to arrive... I'll try and be patient. But I'll probably end up using more of the Humco solution till other solvents arrive later in the week.

Will commit to memory. Only 2 compounds I’ve done on my own are RU-58841 and Cardarine. Both super easy. Prop glycol and ethanol with the RU and PEG 400 on the cardarine.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Ended up continuing to dose the SLU-PP-332 via humco.

Not noticing much of anything except insanely stanky farts and poop. Like really bad.

However, I went for a ride this morning and completely unintentionally set my 3rd fastest 10k and 2nd fastest 10 mile time.

This was supposed to be Z2 pace; it was 146 avg heart rate. It did not feel like I was pushing hard at all. I wasn’t from a perceived effort perspective.

Too early to tell if at all attributed to SLUPP.

Push day at gym today; got in, got out, 40 minutes on the dot. Felt like had a bit more gas / less rest between sets needed despite extremely low food for the day.

262 this afternoon on the scale. Lower than yesterday's morning weight.

After a bit of introspection, some forum therapy, and some real therapy today, I decided that I’m not going to plan my morning rides at all.

I will get on the bike, and I will do whatever I want / is fun to me that day. If that means I get 15 minutes in, and say fuck this - so be it. I realize that I have a tendency to cross the invisible line between “compulsive optimization” and doing something out of pure passion / joy / desire without consciously realizing it.

I have a theory that if I’m having fun, I will perform better over the long term rather than trying to obsessively optimize and try to be perfect in periodizing my cycling + weight lifting.

A lot of you may not understand this as I think it’s a bit of an addict characteristic.

Boring update today.

 

[bjjgear]

Ended up continuing to dose the SLU-PP-332 via humco.

Not noticing much of anything except insanely stanky farts and poop. Like really bad.

However, I went for a ride this morning and completely unintentionally set my 3rd fastest 10k and 2nd fastest 10 mile time.

This was supposed to be Z2 pace; it was 146 avg heart rate. It did not feel like I was pushing hard at all. I wasn’t from a perceived effort perspective.

Too early to tell if at all attributed to SLUPP.

Push day at gym today; got in, got out, 40 minutes on the dot. Felt like had a bit more gas / less rest between sets needed despite extremely low food for the day.

262 this afternoon on the scale. Lower than yesterday's morning weight.

After a bit of introspection, some forum therapy, and some real therapy today, I decided that I’m not going to plan my morning rides at all.

I will get on the bike, and I will do whatever I want / is fun to me that day. If that means I get 15 minutes in, and say fuck this - so be it. I realize that I have a tendency to cross the invisible line between “compulsive optimization” and doing something out of pure passion / joy / desire without consciously realizing it.

I have a theory that if I’m having fun, I will perform better over the long term rather than trying to obsessively optimize and try to be perfect in periodizing my cycling + weight lifting.

A lot of you may not understand this as I think it’s a bit of an addict characteristic.

Boring update today.

Oh I totally understand it. I feel the same way but about my diet rather than workouts. I don't want to be so obsessed with my physique that I forget about living an enjoyable life, which is where all this shit started anyway.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Oh I totally understand it. I feel the same way but about my diet rather than workouts. I don't want to be so obsessed with my physique that I forget about living an enjoyable life, which is where all this shit started anyway.

Well, I also feel this way about my diet too, lol. I’m trying this thing called moderation…except for in my number of PEDs haha.

 

[bjjgear]

Well, I also feel this way about my diet too, lol. I’m trying this thing called moderation…except for in my number of PEDs haha.

I took a full rest day and slept in until 6:30 today literally for the first time in months. No cardio no nothing. Fucking overrated and dumb…

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I took a full rest day and slept in until 6:30 today literally for the first time in months. No cardio no nothing. Fucking overrated and dumb…

Sleeping in sounds amazing…but then I wouldn’t be able to go for a ride each morning and enjoy the quietness to myself…besides, I can’t sleep in. Body just say fuck you get up. So I’ll see yall at 3am tomorrow.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Shit bike ride this morning. ~1hr just pedaling aimlessly around. I think my route is getting stale, or it's my calorie deficit making it less fun.

though, i PR'd on two segments of my ride....effortlessly. legit not trying. is this SLUPP, or is this just cardio gains, or weight dropping impacting power:weight ratio? questions for plato.

i'm going to be a dumbass and push SLUPP higher, probably. why? i dont know cuz i'm a guinea pig and i've got enough to run 1.5mg per day for ~6,000 days. need to look at literature first before doing that but uh, yea, will let y'all know. if anyone thinks it's seriously wreckless, lmk and maybe i won't. anything wrong with doubling chase irons dose? lol

Pull day at gym later today. then straight to eat wings. not expecting great gym performance; fueling with zero carbs between now and BWW.

physique update later this week. not like much has changed. gotta do it for the log though.

i'm starting to get the itch to throw another AAS in. but i don't want to sub anything out. and i don't want to go to a 3cc syringe. bad things happen when I start loading 3cc syringes with short esters....that syringe gets filled up pretty quick.

my brain keeps coming back to 10mg of tren a....i gotta look at the impact of 19nors / progestins on fertility despite using HCG + HMG...if there's even any info out there. my smart brain says don't do it, my dumb brain says it's only 10mg and your wife doesn't want to get pregnant again for another 1.5 years so you got time homie.... oh my inner dialogue is a piece of shit sometimes.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Post pull, post Buffalo Wild Wings. So hard to keep my stomach in, lol. Let’s see what happens to weight tomorrow with SLUPP332 in the mix.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

If anyone has mouse dosing references for SLU-PP-332, please link me the reference. I've been looking for the last 30 minutes or so, and can't find much at all. Found one website that references 50mg/kg....but that seems pretty wild if you convert to HED, lol.

Basically, how did Amino Asylum / Modern Aminos decide on 100mcg - 500mcg per dose? From a price perspective, their margins are absolutely insane at the prices they're selling. Jay Campbell says 600mcg, but why and from where? Said a waste of money probably past that. I don't really follow much of him, but why not use more if cost isn't and issue.

And why did Chase Irons just stop at 1.5mg per day?

Any info is appreciated before I go higher than 3mg per day.