Trest, MENT, Trestolone: Who has used it for a blast? Bulk? Cut?

[NLM36]

I think all AAS completely fuck with my sleep because I end up running so hot even when sleeping. So I got a water heated/cooled mattress cover and that solved pretty much all of my sleep problems. Usually my insomnia is body heat induced.

With test I sleep like a baby. Something about the trest I would have really crazy vivid dreams and nightmares and wake up after about 3-4 hours and couldn’t go back to sleep. It might’ve been my dose as I ran it at 200 and then raised it to 300. Ive still got some stashed I might try again at a later time at around25- 50 a week during a cruise.
the sense of well being was incredible, it definitely made me nicer and more patient.

 

[wsmwannabe]

With test I sleep like a baby. Something about the trest I would have really crazy vivid dreams and nightmares and wake up after about 3-4 hours and couldn’t go back to sleep. It might’ve been my dose as I ran it at 200 and then raised it to 300. Ive still got some stashed I might try again at a later time at around25- 50 a week during a cruise.
the sense of well being was incredible, it definitely made me nicer and more patient.

I’m not telling you to run less than 25-50/wk, BUT a cruise dose of MENT is around 500-700mcg IIRC. I think @Iron_Yuppie has more knowledge about MENT than anyone else I have spoken with, so he could possibly confirm or deny my statements.

It is supposedly 10x more anabolic than test. I have even seen A:A ratios of something like 2300:650 for MENT.

 

[NLM36]

I’m not telling you to run less than 25-50/wk, BUT a cruise dose of MENT is around 500-700mcg IIRC. I think @Iron_Yuppie has more knowledge about MENT than anyone else I have spoken with, so he could possibly confirm or deny my statements.

It is supposedly 10x more anabolic than test. I have even seen A:A ratios of something like 2300:650 for MENT.

I’ve read that but the numbers on paper don’t translate to real life. 300mg of trest was nowhere near 3grams of testosterone.

 

[Human_backhoe]

With test I sleep like a baby. Something about the trest I would have really crazy vivid dreams and nightmares and wake up after about 3-4 hours and couldn’t go back to sleep. It might’ve been my dose as I ran it at 200 and then raised it to 300. Ive still got some stashed I might try again at a later time at around25- 50 a week during a cruise.
the sense of well being was incredible, it definitely made me nicer and more patient.

How was it on your RBC? Hemoglobin hematocrit?

Considering it on top of my script.

 

[NLM36]

How was it on your RBC? Hemoglobin hematocrit?

Considering it on top of my script.

Everything was in range. I didn’t run it with test very long at all though. I ran it by itself. I was extremely cautious about taking any aromatizing compounds with it.
I only kept 200mg of test in for a week or so then I dropped it.
I was taking 10mg tamoxifen daily and .5 adex eod. If I remember correctly.
I normally don’t tell people to do no test but with trestolone i do.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

How was it on your RBC? Hemoglobin hematocrit?

Considering it on top of my script.

HCt was the primary reason I started MENT and stopped traditional trt. Went from 50 to 54 after six weeks of no test. Now down to 51 (lower than before trt).

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

I’ve read that but the numbers on paper don’t translate to real life. 300mg of trest was nowhere near 3grams of testosterone.

They don’t translate directly, no. But 500-700mcg was the replacement dose used and that pretty accurately mimicked Trt dosing ranges. Once you get above Xmg/d I think the huge androgenic-anabolic ratio gets past the point of being meaningful. While 300mg may be equivalent to 3g of test it doesn’t mean your body will respond in a similar way.

 

[NLM36]

HCt was the primary reason I started MENT and stopped traditional trt. Went from 50 to 54 after six weeks of no test. Now down to 51 (lower than before trt).

One thing I’ll add I was peeing much less on trestolone. I’ve never had my prostrate checked but I’ve read things about trest having a positive effect on the prostate and I correlated with that

 

[NLM36]

They don’t translate directly, no. But 500-700mcg was the replacement dose used and that pretty accurately mimicked Trt dosing ranges. Once you get above Xmg/d I think the huge androgenic-anabolic ratio gets past the point of being meaningful. While 300mg may be equivalent to 3g of test it doesn’t mean your body will respond in a similar way.

That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the explanation.
Do you know why they never moved to use it for trt?

 

[Human_backhoe]

That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the explanation.
Do you know why they never moved to use it for trt?

I believe it had to do with diminished bone density

 

[Human_backhoe]

HCt was the primary reason I started MENT and stopped traditional trt. Went from 50 to 54 after six weeks of no test. Now down to 51 (lower than before trt).

Very interesting. Mine stays slightly elevated, trt or not. Although Trt put me ever so slightly outside of the reference range. Odd thing is it has never gone up since even through a blast.

the sense of well being was incredible, it definitely made me nicer and more patient.

Might drop test to 100 and supplement some MENT. I could use this in life lol. Been a rough year. I'm impatient as fuck! Been a bad year for weather and crops. I love going into a work out feel on top!

 

[NLM36]

Very interesting. Mine stays slightly elevated, trt or not. Although Trt put me ever so slightly outside of the reference range. Odd thing is it has never gone up since even through a blast.




Might drop test to 100 and supplement some MENT. I could use this in life lol. Been a rough year. I'm impatient as fuck! Been a bad year for weather and crops. I love going into a work out feel on top!

I’ve never had anything make me feel how trest did. I had a complete personality change. I was like the after on a Zoloft commercial

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

I’ve never had anything make me feel how trest did. I had a complete personality change. I was like the after on a Zoloft commercial

I had a similar boost, albeit smaller. Though smaller dose means smaller effect. But yeah, it’s got that dbol kind of good vibe to it and it’s definitely noticeable for me.

 

[NLM36]

I had a similar boost, albeit smaller. Though smaller dose means smaller effect. But yeah, it’s got that dbol kind of good vibe to it and it’s definitely noticeable for me.

That’s actually the perfect way to describe trest is like dbol

 

[Human_backhoe]

Think I found my perfect stack. The little bit of good aggression I get from Primo with a MENT kicker lol

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Think I found my perfect stack. The little bit of good aggression I get from Primo with a MENT kicker lol

That was my big blast this year. Had to stop it five weeks in, so it’s postponed until the Fall. But that was my dream bulk and I’m looking forward to it.

 

[Human_backhoe]

That was my big blast this year. Had to stop it five weeks in, so it’s postponed until the Fall. But that was my dream bulk and I’m looking forward to it.

That's sucks. I hate that rollercoaster! All the sides with minimal gains. Same thing for me last fall.

What would you run your test at? The bone loss stuff makes me think at least 100 to 150?

 

[MFAAS]

They don’t translate directly, no. But 500-700mcg was the replacement dose used and that pretty accurately mimicked Trt dosing ranges. Once you get above Xmg/d I think the huge androgenic-anabolic ratio gets past the point of being meaningful. While 300mg may be equivalent to 3g of test it doesn’t mean your body will respond in a similar way.

Well stated, sir! This is exactly right. There is more to it than the anabolic:androgenic ratio. However, if someone thinks they are gonna cruise on 20 mg of MENT, they are sorely mistaken! lol

Hot damn at 300 mg per week thats more expensive than primo!

 

[NLM36]

Well stated, sir! This is exactly right. There is more to it than the anabolic:androgenic ratio. However, if someone thinks they are gonna cruise on 20 mg of MENT, they are sorely mistaken! lol

Hot damn at 300 mg per week thats more expensive than primo!

When I cruise it’s not trt. I’m never simply trying to maintain. I don’t run crazy high doses but to me yes I’ll cruise on 25-50 mg a week next time I run it.
It’s not a fair comparison to primo as it’s a shit ton stronger. I have 100mg per ml and it was 80 a vial.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

That's sucks. I hate that rollercoaster! All the sides with minimal gains. Same thing for me last fall.

What would you run your test at? The bone loss stuff makes me think at least 100 to 150?

I can’t take test. At any dose it just rockets my HCT and I’m not willing to fight that battle anymore. I use HCG to keep things running down there, but for me test is unfortunately off the table.

At some point I’ll give it another shot and see what it does to my blood work, but I’m not in a position to do that right now. Things are complicated enough without adding another variable and I’m really just enjoying cruising.