Trestolone? I don't think it was ever researched for HRT specifically, but for male birth control instead. It would need to be effective as an HRT drug as well though presumably. Last thing I read was that it was not effective enough at reducing sperm count to warrant use in that manner. I think some research is still ongoing with it though.
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Trest, MENT, Trestolone: Who has used it for a blast? Bulk? Cut?
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OmL
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Isn’t the trade off being that it is highly convertible to E2 but it’s also highly anabolic and completely unaffected by and unbindable to SHBG?
Human_backhoe
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OmL
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Sorry yes I knew that, I misquoted. My apologies.
rufflesbaby
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After my first vial I ended up buying more, I was doing 50mg/EOD and felt awesome.. It seemed to always peak the day after for sure. Immediately after injecting my body feels very warm but beyond that I didn't notice anything off with how I felt mentally, Actually felt a better overall sense of well-being. Anyways It made me very strong and made me feel great, very full look and increased aggression, feels like it makes sex feel better lol. I was stacking it with Anadrol but I'm very used to drol by itself.. I got sore nipples after around my 2nd-3rd injection, Make sure to have AROMASIN on hand. That alone solved it very quickly and I haven't experienced any sort of Prolactin sides that others have claimed.. But I do have Caber just incase, Never was an issue for me.
It definitely gives that great sense of well being, but I have an easier time controlling sides and better results by just running higher doses of test.
as far as a drug used for growth I think it’s highly overrated
Actually some countries including Canada and USA can still charge you for manufacturing weather it’s a research chemical or not, even though you’re not technically even manufacturing, just processing. You might have the potential to beat it in court later, but I know without a single doubt in the world, if you got busted while doing this for whatever reason, you would have a manufacturing charge.
Iron_Yuppie
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That’s probably the legal reality. You may win the day in court, but it’ll cost you a fortune getting there.
Yes, one of the unfortunate parts of our justice system.
rufflesbaby
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Yeah I've heard so many mixed things so I'm happy to try it on my own to find out what It's really like, full circle. I don't think I'll go over 50mg. I like just getting at least 1 vial of something new and trying it out along with (my) tried and true
I'm stuck with 3 vials now anyways Lolwsmwannabe
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So a quick update:
After about 5.5 weeks on cycle, I bumped up my doses and added bold cyp:
600/400/400/40 test C/NPP/bold C/MENT A. The cut went fantastic. I dropped from 247 on July 5th to 233 by Aug 10th, and have been maintaining about 233 since then. I have gotten stronger and faster in the gym all while dropping ~2-3% BF. The MENT was fantastic for NPP related my mood sides, even at only 40 mg/wk (42mg to be exact). I should be running more or less maintenance cals until mid October, working on a recomp and hopefully getting to 10-11% BF (currently I am about 13%)
4 days ago I stopped NPP and started running Tren. My current cycle is:
600/400/400/40 test C/tren A/bold C/MENT A. I recall one member on here saying that he was good with NPP/MENT, but for some reason tren/MENT made his mood sides worse. So far I feel exactly the same as I did with the NPP, but I have only been running tren for 4 days.
8 weeks in, this has been one of the most smooth cycles I have ever run, even though I am running far more this cycle than I have ever run before. I have only 2 sides that I am really dealing with: a little bit of gyno (which is under control, not getting better but not getting worse) and mild to moderate acne. No ED issues, no BP or RHR issues, no mood issues (most common side for me), no increased or decreased appetite, no increased water retention or bloat, not even excessive nose bleeds that I usually get, even when running test only.
I think this has more to do with REALLY cleaning up my diet rather than the gear or supps I am using, although the supps certainly help mitigate some issues.
Also I will be getting bloods done in about 2 weeks.
Damn dude that is a heavy cycle!
Tren always seems to make my nips puffy, and I dont even have glands there anymore after removal. Happens no matter what. Tried caber (even at higher doses like 0.5mg per day) and i tried dropping my E2 down super low. Idk what the deal is. After some experimentation, I have decided I am done with tren. It isn't worth it IMO. Also it makes me totally unable to cum and fucks with mah dick which is not worth it at all lol.
MENT made me have crazy sweats. I had trouble sleeping from them, had to switch beds every single night from my bedroom to the guest bedroom. Couldn't finish during sex because K was so hot even with a fan on me. Idk if I will run it again ever either. I think I threw my last vial away anyway so probably not. I was running test with it though and I do wonder if MENT+Mast with no test at all would be amazing...?
Basically going forward I am sticking to what I know I like: test, mast, maybe NPP, anavar, maybe proviron but probably just mast IDK yet. I would try primo, never tried it yet.
There is plenty of gains to be had out of those substances, and those 5 or 6 are plenty to pick from anyway. I always do lower doses, I have never passed thr 1g per week mark with injectibles. If you count anavar or proviron then the most I have ever taken is 1200 mg of gear, since my standard cycle used to be test+NPP+Anavar 500/350/350.
RackPuller
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Ment sucks for the unseasoned steroid user, too difficult to manage sides and not end up a mess
It reminds me of dbol except more sides and less effective.
ive got a 100mg/ml vial of trest e in my stash and I just don’t know if I’ll ever touch it. It’ll probably sit there collecting dust with an assortment of other things.
I’d rather just take more test. I get less sides 1000+mg of test and more benefits than 200mg of trest.
wsmwannabe
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For my goals and my training age/level, this is a very moderate cycle. I wouldn't consider myself and advanced gear user (more like intermediate) but I have dialed in nearly every aspect of my training, sleep, and nutrition, so now I am learning how to dial in the gear.
This is my first cycle over 1g of injectables (1440 to be more precise). My next biggest was 875mg. The biggest difference for me is the addition of the bold, and the jury is still our on its effectiveness.
If nothing else, for the MENT, I cannot overstate how much the MENT has helped my mood issues. But I am really having zero sides except for the 2 that I mentioned. I have a heated/cooled mattress cover that keeps me cold all night long, so night sweats and heat induced insomnia are non existent.
I largely agree with you though as far as not needing many different compounds. The addition of Bold now means that I have used 4 different injectables in the 3 years I have been using AAS. I love 19-nors and respond very well to them. I do, however, have primo and DHB waiting to be home brewed.
EDIT: I forgot to include MENT, so that's 5 injectables I have used. I've never messed with any DHT stuff.
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Human_backhoe
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They have a thing PVC matrix that is embedded in the mattress cover that circulates water through it. I bought a king size for $1300, but now they're almost $2k.
They sell mattresses (which are nothing special) but the real tech they have comes in the temp control and sleep sensors
They have a thing PVC matrix that is embedded in the mattress cover that circulates water through it. I bought a king size for $1300, but now they're almost $2k.
They sell mattresses (which are nothing special) but the real tech they have comes in the temp control and sleep sensors
RackPuller
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I felt it was strong as hell at 50mg eod, I just can’t handle the weird sides
Forthewin1123
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I just started ment as well.. dropped my test to 300 dropped npp.. currently 300/600/210 test eq ment.. may raise the ment some slowy.. but like you I feel better then ever mood and energy wise.. it's pretty incredible how much better it is
Juicedhead
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Bro I used it once. Was fucking crazy good. I just got some decanoate ester dosed at 150mg/ml so can’t wait to try that. I was actually the biggest and strongest I’ve ever been on that shit it was insane and I felt absolutely amazing almost euphoric all the time like that life is good feeling all the time. And I was eating like a horse bro I was insanely strong and fucking big and round. I was using like 250-300mg a week I can’t remember but that steroid is like nothing I’ve ever used it makes tren look weak. IMO ment is the best bulking drug hands down. Just make sure u have ur AI and caber cuz ur gunna need it I believe it fucks with prolactin too
