Trestolone(MENT) cycle

[jimmye_25]

After much research I decided to give a trest only cycle a try. Thoughts on 12.5mg trest ED, along with hcg, and I have Aromasin on hand and was thinking use that during if issues arise and also as a pct?

 

[Liter O' Test]

along with hcg, and I have Aromasin on hand and was thinking use that during if issues arise and also as a pct?

No you have no idea what you are doing.

You saying "on hand" is the biggest red flag.

you are also implying you might not have estrogen issues on trestolone lol.
I dont think you have used steroids before and youre going to mess yourself up regardless of what you do

 

[bighunanballs]

After much research I decided to give a trest only cycle a try. Thoughts on 12.5mg trest ED, along with hcg, and I have Aromasin on hand and was thinking use that during if issues arise and also as a pct?

Agree with @Liter O' Test you don't sound ready to try a trest cycle. Once per day inject won't cut it with acetate and starting at 12.5mg is a bad idea

 

[jimmye_25]

After much research I decided to give a trest only cycle a try. Thoughts on 12.5mg trest ED, along with hcg, and I have Aromasin on hand and was thinking use that during if issues arise and also as a pct?

I also have enclo on hand too.

 

[Sector]

I also have enclo on hand too.

Sigh...

 

[jimmye_25]

No you have no idea what you are doing.

You saying "on hand" is the biggest red flag.

you are also implying you might not have estrogen issues on trestolone lol.
I dont think you have used steroids before and youre going to mess yourself up regardless of what you do

I’ve done a cycle of test e once a few years ago, one of AC262 and a separate cycle of SR9009 both last year. Definitely not an expert by no means at all but I’ve dabbled a little here and there. Tbh your response comes off as condescending. Lot of assumptions. Never “implied” anything, there have been plenty examples of folks who didn’t have estrogen issues, and some who have….both with or without test base. At high doses and at the lower end like 10 to 12mg doses which some have used as/or in lieu of TRT. This compound in particular just varies with some people. Either way an AI was quoted “on hand” as a just in case in the majority of the info I’ve read tho. So I guess everyone who made this statement “in hand” there and in all the forums are walking red flags too? Or are you just like that with me? Not very welcoming sir or ma’am. Again no expert here but like I said I’ve dabbled and I’ve done my research. Anyways I hope you can see how you’re coming off and fix that bcus you could’ve asked questions instead of trying to kinda shame??…that’s what turns people off to places like here. Take it from someone whose been using thinksteroids for years, I see how people get treated a lot of times so I’ve stayed in the background. Folks want a place to fellowship and learn and grow bcus the wealth of knowledge is so valuable and we’re all just trying to learn and have a better understanding of things that’s all. I’ll get off my soapbox now….apologies for the sermon but be it in person or online I speak my mind when I feel I’m getting certain vibes. You take care

 

[trtbuilder]

I’ve done a cycle of test e once a few years ago, one of AC262 and a separate cycle of SR9009 both last year. Definitely not an expert by no means at all but I’ve dabbled a little here and there. Tbh your response comes off as condescending. Lot of assumptions. Never “implied” anything, there have been plenty examples of folks who didn’t have estrogen issues, and some who have….both with or without test base. At high doses and at the lower end like 10 to 12mg doses which some have used as/or in lieu of TRT. This compound in particular just varies with some people. Either way an AI was quoted “on hand” as a just in case in the majority of the info I’ve read tho. So I guess everyone who made this statement “in hand” there and in all the forums are walking red flags too? Or are you just like that with me? Not very welcoming sir or ma’am. Again no expert here but like I said I’ve dabbled and I’ve done my research. Anyways I hope you can see how you’re coming off and fix that bcus you could’ve asked questions instead of trying to kinda shame??…that’s what turns people off to places like here. Take it from someone whose been using thinksteroids for years, I see how people get treated a lot of times so I’ve stayed in the background. Folks want a place to fellowship and learn and grow bcus the wealth of knowledge is so valuable and we’re all just trying to learn and have a better understanding of things that’s all. I’ll get off my soapbox now….apologies for the sermon but be it in person or online I speak my mind when I feel I’m getting certain vibes. You take care

He was right.

Also learn how to use paragraphs.

 

[BOSSBIG]

After much research I decided to give a trest only cycle a try. Thoughts on 12.5mg trest ED, along with hcg, and I have Aromasin on hand and was thinking use that during if issues arise and also as a pct?

Even on a low dose like that I would still take Aromasin every day starting day 1 and evaluate from there. Low estrogen is better than blowing up with tits, acne and high blood pressure. And start with 5mg. And have raloxifene on hand in case the Aromasin doesn't work. Ment is an estrogen bomb like nothing else.

 

[Liter O' Test]

I’ve done a cycle of test e once a few years ago, one of AC262 and a separate cycle of SR9009 both last year. Definitely not an expert by no means at all but I’ve dabbled a little here and there. Tbh your response comes off as condescending. Lot of assumptions. Never “implied” anything, there have been plenty examples of folks who didn’t have estrogen issues, and some who have….both with or without test base. At high doses and at the lower end like 10 to 12mg doses which some have used as/or in lieu of TRT. This compound in particular just varies with some people. Either way an AI was quoted “on hand” as a just in case in the majority of the info I’ve read tho. So I guess everyone who made this statement “in hand” there and in all the forums are walking red flags too? Or are you just like that with me? Not very welcoming sir or ma’am. Again no expert here but like I said I’ve dabbled and I’ve done my research. Anyways I hope you can see how you’re coming off and fix that bcus you could’ve asked questions instead of trying to kinda shame??…that’s what turns people off to places like here. Take it from someone whose been using thinksteroids for years, I see how people get treated a lot of times so I’ve stayed in the background. Folks want a place to fellowship and learn and grow bcus the wealth of knowledge is so valuable and we’re all just trying to learn and have a better understanding of things that’s all. I’ll get off my soapbox now….apologies for the sermon but be it in person or online I speak my mind when I feel I’m getting certain vibes. You take care

the problem is you have "read" and "done research" on forums about one of the least used and most side effect ridden steroids available.

my point is that you think you can understand everything through other peoples anecdotes, yet ignore all the red flags about this compound, all the side effects and the fact that its just not popular or recommended.

To me you sound like you think you know better and think that the more posts you read, the more side effects you can avoid, but steroids don't care how many threads you've read. Your body doesn't care that you read some anecdotes about how testosterone isn't needed.

You ran SARMS twice? like how do you avoid/ignore all the information about how bad they are?

you simply are not experienced enough to wing a trestolone only cycle
i mean you can, but post back here and be honest about how it went

again, the fact you think that not needing an A.I with trestolone is even a possibility shows how little you understand about estrogen and trestolone. That despite reading all these posts about estrogen and trestolone, you don't comprehend it and underestimate estrogen side effects and steroids themselves.

You don't have the experience to even weed through the posts that you read and seperate the B.S from the truth. (probably why you ran SARMS twice)

just do testosterone. is that not enough for you?

 

[jimmye_25]

the problem is you have "read" and "done research" on forums about one of the least used and most side effect ridden steroids available.

my point is that you think you can understand everything through other peoples anecdotes, yet ignore all the red flags about this compound, all the side effects and the fact that its just not popular or recommended.

To me you sound like you think you know better and think that the more posts you read, the more side effects you can avoid, but steroids don't care how many threads you've read. Your body doesn't care that you read some anecdotes about how testosterone isn't needed.

You ran SARMS twice? like how do you avoid/ignore all the information about how bad they are?

you simply are not experienced enough to wing a trestolone only cycle
i mean you can, but post back here and be honest about how it went

again, the fact you think that not needing an A.I with trestolone is even a possibility shows how little you understand about estrogen and trestolone. That despite reading all these posts about estrogen and trestolone, you don't comprehend it and underestimate estrogen side effects and steroids themselves.

You don't have the experience to even weed through the posts that you read and seperate the B.S from the truth. (probably why you ran SARMS twice)

just do testosterone. is that not enough for you?

Again sir you’re assuming. The forums yes was a part of the research, but there’s also other resources out there in the ether. With trest maybe not as much but there’s enough for a thorough comb through. And regardless I don’t think ANYONE has a 1000% grasp of ANY of these compounds if we’re being honest. There’s red flags with all of them, some more than others but still. But you look at ALL the info…. anecdotes included. That’s one of the main things folks do in forums like these right?? Discuss and share ideas and experiences?? Theres calculated risk with all these compounds sarms included. Speaking of sarms tho, does that really show my lack of experience??? Really tho??? Lol HOW SWAY!!?? Did you come at the thousands of folks ON THIS HERE FORUM and tell them they lack experience too or nah?? Yeah I doubt it hoss….last I checked searching “sarm” or any sarm like “Ostarine“ or “YK11” brings up tons of conversations about cycles, by folks who’ve been on this forum just as long as you, but ok hoss. And again……I NEVER SAID I DIDNT NEED AN AI SON. Again ASSUMING! Instead of ASSUMING what I do and don’t comprehend, like I said before you could’ve just asked questions. Could’ve had constructive dialogue. But you woke up and said “let’s be a dick.” Maybe whatever compound you’re currently on you might’ve underestimated your own estrogen. Lol listen kid…I could keep going back and forth with you but nah…I’m good. Follow along or not Idc. At this point hoss I won’t pay you no mind. You be blessed tho ok? Alright

 

[jimmye_25]

Even on a low dose like that I would still take Aromasin every day starting day 1 and evaluate from there. Low estrogen is better than blowing up with tits, acne and high blood pressure. And start with 5mg. And have raloxifene on hand in case the Aromasin doesn't work. Ment is an estrogen bomb like nothing else.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. What I noticed from some anecdotes some would wait to implement their AI. Seemed risky knowing how estrogenic trest is.

Also I would like to thank you for the respectful dialogue BossBig. Many blessin tuh yuh bredren

 

[jimmye_25]

He was right.

Also learn how to use paragraphs.

He might be. Or not.

And I could use em, but nah.

You’ll be fine tho

 

[jimmye_25]

Agree with @Liter O' Test you don't sound ready to try a trest cycle. Once per day inject won't cut it with acetate and starting at 12.5mg is a bad idea

He did alot of assuming and ran with it. I posted to start a dialogue on the topic….gain prospective from folks. But yeah I’ve seen doses at 5mg and an old shipmate buddy of mine did a cycle and didn’t go any higher than that. This stuff is potent

 

[trtbuilder]

He might be. Or not.

And I could use em, but nah.

You’ll be fine tho

Yeah, I'm great.

You won't be though because you're another newbie that thinks he knows everything and shouldn't have wasted your time even making this thread.

 

[trtbuilder]

Again sir you’re assuming. The forums yes was a part of the research, but there’s also other resources out there in the ether. With trest maybe not as much but there’s enough for a thorough comb through. And regardless I don’t think ANYONE has a 1000% grasp of ANY of these compounds if we’re being honest. There’s red flags with all of them, some more than others but still. But you look at ALL the info…. anecdotes included. That’s one of the main things folks do in forums like these right?? Discuss and share ideas and experiences?? Theres calculated risk with all these compounds sarms included. Speaking of sarms tho, does that really show my lack of experience??? Really tho??? Lol HOW SWAY!!?? Did you come at the thousands of folks ON THIS HERE FORUM and tell them they lack experience too or nah?? Yeah I doubt it hoss….last I checked searching “sarm” or any sarm like “Ostarine“ or “YK11” brings up tons of conversations about cycles, by folks who’ve been on this forum just as long as you, but ok hoss. And again……I NEVER SAID I DIDNT NEED AN AI SON. Again ASSUMING! Instead of ASSUMING what I do and don’t comprehend, like I said before you could’ve just asked questions. Could’ve had constructive dialogue. But you woke up and said “let’s be a dick.” Maybe whatever compound you’re currently on you might’ve underestimated your own estrogen. Lol listen kid…I could keep going back and forth with you but nah…I’m good. Follow along or not Idc. At this point hoss I won’t pay you no mind. You be blessed tho ok? Alright

Nobody's reading this wall of idiocy bro.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Again sir you’re assuming. The forums yes was a part of the research, but there’s also other resources out there in the ether. With trest maybe not as much but there’s enough for a thorough comb through. And regardless I don’t think ANYONE has a 1000% grasp of ANY of these compounds if we’re being honest. There’s red flags with all of them, some more than others but still. But you look at ALL the info…. anecdotes included. That’s one of the main things folks do in forums like these right?? Discuss and share ideas and experiences?? Theres calculated risk with all these compounds sarms included. Speaking of sarms tho, does that really show my lack of experience??? Really tho??? Lol HOW SWAY!!?? Did you come at the thousands of folks ON THIS HERE FORUM and tell them they lack experience too or nah?? Yeah I doubt it hoss….last I checked searching “sarm” or any sarm like “Ostarine“ or “YK11” brings up tons of conversations about cycles, by folks who’ve been on this forum just as long as you, but ok hoss. And again……I NEVER SAID I DIDNT NEED AN AI SON. Again ASSUMING! Instead of ASSUMING what I do and don’t comprehend, like I said before you could’ve just asked questions. Could’ve had constructive dialogue. But you woke up and said “let’s be a dick.” Maybe whatever compound you’re currently on you might’ve underestimated your own estrogen. Lol listen kid…I could keep going back and forth with you but nah…I’m good. Follow along or not Idc. At this point hoss I won’t pay you no mind. You be blessed tho ok? Alright

look I get you feel disrespected, and I got the same treatment when I first posted here, however I actually back up what I say with knowledge and experience.

You are so offended about everyone "assuming" you don't know what you're talking about or that you're doing things wrong, but you ,think that Aromasin is a PCT drug

I know this thread is super old but thoughts on trestolone solo for a cycle with hcg added for protection, then Aromasin for pct?

Why would we think you're right about other things when you don't understand the basics?


What I said in a earlier comment in this thread, about how your "research" on trest doesn't mean anything, because this compound is not widely used, the anecdotes you're reading from and trusting in are from other anonymous morons on the internet and most importantly, you are too inexperienced/biased to look at trest info objectively.

type II, literally gave two AMAZING comments about this specifically about this, yet you are so arrogant you ignore this completely. Do you understand what objective means? You mention "Calculated risk", you do not understand this, if you cannot objectively look at information you cannot "calculate risk", you do not have the ability to weigh pros and cons, you just ignore the cons? Based on a feeling? Or maybe you read 3 comments about no test and they outweigh 1 comment from type II LOL

MENT failed abysmally at maintaining androgen-dependent functions when trialled as a potential male contraceptive.

Sexual function effects
2 of 13 (15%) MENT subjects withdrew after 8 weeks of treatment due to low libido & erectile dysfunction...Adverse events included reduced libido & erectile function in 4 additional subjects in the MENT group who completed treatment (6/13, or 46%) [these adverse effects were not reported by any subject in the testosterone group]...Due to the incidence of reports of low libido and early withdrawal in the MENT group, it was decided in consultation with the study Data Monitoring and Safety Committee to shorten the MENT treatment period to 24 weeks whereas men in the testosterone group completed 48 weeks of treatment.

Walton, M. J., Kumar, N., Baird, D. T., Ludlow, H., & Anderson, R. A. (2007). 7 -Methyl-19-Nortestosterone (MENT) vs Testosterone in Combination With Etonogestrel Implants for Spermatogenic Suppression in Healthy Men. Journal of Andrology, 28(5), 679–688. doi:10.2164/jandrol.107.002683

What is odd is this persistent cheerleading of MENT [1], a non-5α-reducible progestagenic androgen [2] that aromatizes to a highly potent 7α-methylestradiol [3] as a viable T alternative for supporting sexual function [4] despite all evidence to the contrary, borne out by its never being pursued to market through the clinical trials process, etc.

If you can grok the concepts described in the links herein, you might see why combination of testosterone (5α-reducible & aromatizable androst-4-ene-3-one) & a 5α-androstan-3-one (possessing antiestrogenic properties, see forthcoming Article regarding Primo & Crashed E2) with MENT is a rational cycle design.

This comment is pure gold

Never use ment without a test base

Ment is not good for hrt

And out of all that, this is the B.S you type in the same thread

I know this thread is super old but thoughts on trestolone solo for a cycle with hcg added for protection, then Aromasin for pct?

embarrassing