For the third time, insoluble fiber according to Jano. Common practice to cut Cialis and Viagra with it apparently.
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muscletrain
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Sym really hooked you up with a killer raw supplier eh.
It’s a fact?? Prove it then...
Oh, you can’t? Then it’s an excuse. You can go round and round on it and circle-jerk your thread but that’s not the correct thing to do.
Provide SOLUTIONS instead of hypotheticals. I’m not looking to argue with you and I don’t know why you get defensive. The test report shows its 20% overdosed and that’s the fact. You can surmise it’s “deviation” but you have nothing to show that to be true.
This is exactly why we always suggest that people go with pharmaceutical grade for everything that is dosed in single-digit milligrams.
muscletrain
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It's not an excuse and if you can't then you shouldn't be making ladyvar tbh. Here's SYN from up here in canada's clen orals and they're an UGL. Made at 50mcg (mcg)
results:
49.77mcg
51.87mcg
tested by Jano you can find it floating around. tdlr; if you can't get your dosages accurate enough for ladyvar with your v-mixer then don't make it. 1mg variance for guys that love to chew 50-60mg+ var is a big difference than marketing it to women.
This is fun but you can simply scroll through the lab results here on MESO find reports form highly regarded labs that are marketed as borderline Pharmacuetical coming back with test results sometimes 45% off. I believe Hilma is rather well regarded and they have 10mg Anavar testing with 43% variation. I do pack my capsules hard so I think you would find the average to be slightly over rather than under, but 25% seems to be the very maximum deviation from my orals. It's not like we only have 2-3 oral tests to compare to now. Most of them test within 10% and most of my orals are 5% overdosed. So if we take something like Lady Var which is not overdosed logic would tell you that average MG/cap would be lower than the other caps tested.
I can make my API on Anavar slightly lower for lady var to make sure the rate of having overdosed pills is very low, but you will have some pills that come in under 5mg/cap.
There is another way to have even less deviation with orals and take away another human factor and I'm working on that.
Suprachica79
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Not trying to be a douche here but -
Anavar 5mg Lady Var ---> 6.24mg - +24.8%
Anadrol 50mg ---> 55.75mg - +11.5%
Aromasin 12.5mg ---> 13.5mg - +7.4%
Clomid 50mg ---> 54.99mg - +10%
Dbol 25mg ---> 30.14mg - +20.5%
Methyltestosterone 10mg ---> 9.87mg dosed correctly
Nolva 20mg ---> 21.91mg - +9.5%
Proviron 25mg ---> 27.81mg - +11.2%
Winny 25mg ---> 24.79mg - dosed correctly
Tbol 25mg ---> 28.32mg - +13.3%
Sdrol 10mg ---> 11.84mg - +18.4%
We can do math. This is not mostly 5% off, you are on average 10.3% over on your orals. If your theory were correct and these were overdosed, you’d have some testing well below the indicated dose. You have none of that. It seems clear that you overdose by 10% on everything. The community at large is asking you to dose accurately, not 10% over. Why is this such a difficult request?
Because when left with SUGGESTIONS to simply do the correct thing, Trips ego gets in the way and he takes it as an outright ATTACK for some reason.
What he FAILS TO SEE is that we aren’t comparing him to anyone else. We aren’t saying he fucked up. We’re just proposing that he can do better is all.
An easier response for him would be simply “I’m testing my raws, adjusting my formula accordingly and aim to do better next time”. [emoji2369]
Let's break this down. Most of my products get a 5% overdose on API. That is what I meant by most of my products are 5% overdosed. I add 5% to the equation when making most of my orals. I also said most of them are within 10% variation which you just showed.
If you wanted to be really strict you could say that my Average deviation would be 5% if you wanted to add in the 5% overdose I already include, but I think 10% is fair and a great result.
BBBG, someone did compare me to another lab. I replied to their comment. I spoke about the solutions and I can certainly lower my API on compounds such as lady var to bring the average mg/capsule down.
Logan44551
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Man, you just can't help yourself can you. I've given up, anytime you do one thing right. You turn around and shoot yourself in the foot. It's like you don't want to succeed, you'd rather be self righteous and argue than be humble.
muscletrain
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Shows you a result showing ugls can accurately dose and you just jump on to whataboutism, do you want us to compare you to shit labs or good ones? Ok some people come in 45% off, is that a good comparison to make yourself feel better ?
Logic would dictate you shouldn't be adding an overdose to ladyvar of all things intentional or not since you love to point out logic.
Pretty sure the ladies won't be lining up to thank you for that one.
Stubborn
He didn't compare. He pointed out that SYN can make clen accurately with no "deviation" to show you that your "deviation" excuse is bullshit. They you come back with "good enough for Hilma, good enough for me" defense.
That's where the "circle jerk" comes from. You're way off topic and miss the point. TESTING THE RAWS beforehand means you KNOW what to put into your formulas and you will get ACCURATE caps in the future. End of story, no slight of hand, no deflection, no deceiving.
Jesus fuck, you are impossible. If I was running a UGL and got ALL this GOOD advice from people, I would be grateful instead of defensive. Your chirps back do you more harm then good.
How are we "picking on you" or conducting a "witch hunt" as my buddy with low standards likes to say, when it's the SAME consistent advice from Day 1 and we're past Day 100??? Testing your raws means that you can pump out adequately dosed product that is confirmed by product testing. That will make you wildly popular and subsequently rich.
Or you can sit there and say "I'm good enough", I don't think the end result will be the same though. Maybe good enough makes you financially rewarded enough. But what happens when competition comes and it BETTER?
How do you not recognize that this is to your benefit?
These, plus me, equals four totally different people that are telling you the same exact thing, without bashing you, bullying you, or saying anything derogative. Read this shit for what it is, instead of making up false ideas that we're all out to get you.
When did I once say during this discussion that any of you are out to get me? Part of this discussion was misinformation that I overdose my Lady Var, which I do not. I presented relevant information regarding my orals. I also presented a possible solution that could come with a downside of having some pills come in .5 below labeled claim.
I realize you would prefer I give you a BS political answer but that is not how I operate. I do not overdose my Lady Var. 10% is the average deviation usually leaning high. Those results are great but if you want to make sure that the deviation on Lady Var leans low rather than high I can do that with a caveat.
Edit: I could also bring down my deviation on all of my other orals by taking out my 5% overdose on my next run.
Suprachica79
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Misinformation? My god. I’m honestly trying to be really nice and understanding, but my dude, the only testing result we have points to 25% additional API than indicated on the label. If you are not overdosing by 10% then your mixing methods are an issue and some caps have 3.5mg, which is also an problem. Idk what to tell you - I’m actually trying to be helpful and I get this strong feeling that you would rather be “right” than be successful and it’s super confusing. I just don’t get it.
Nevermind Trips.... You're right and I'm wrong. My bad.
The general tone of the source is always wrong here is confusing to me. You see an average of 10% deviation with products that are 5% overdosed. If my products were often underdosed you would see that reflected in the testing as well.
Yes, you have one sample that tested with the highest overdose percentage of any of my orals so far. It seems then that would be an outlier considering most of my products are 5% overdosed and lady var is not and I have an average 10% variance.
The point is that most of the Anavar should test closer to 5.25mg per cap. I can lower the API to lower the deviation. You are going to have outliers and I fail to see the point you are trying to make.
WHO CARES about some other labs that are "MARKETED" as "borderline pharmaceutical"?
It is not pharma grade!
What is wrong with you?
Why do you continue to argue every point with.. he did she did?
Every time someone points out an issue, rather than just dealing with it gracefully, you take it personal, get over defensive, and shoot yourself in the foot..
@BigBaldBeardGuy has shown above, exactly how you should handle these situations..
Be HUMBLE..
Don't let your attitude sabotage your progress..
Trip, it is still your attitude and only your fucking attitude that is the problem here.
Your results are not as someone reading your intro would expect them. They are off. Just grow some fucking balls and admit that it is harder than expected to dose as accurately as you planned to or whatever but do not always say "this is okay, this is okay, blablabla".
It is so annoying i get angry but reading this shit although i shouldnt even care since i am not US..
