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Mister Sandman
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What’s wild is you don’t understand it’s not about trump ...
It’s about my disbelief at your tolerance for his infidelity, his cruelty, his intellectual ignorance, his immorality, his disrespect for the rule of law, his alliances with dictators and so on...
Mister Sandman
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Dear republican friend
When you and your republican buddies are faced with the mounting evidence and growing laundry list of moral atrocities proffered by this president and his administration (affairs, lies, clandestine porn star payoffs, Russian election interference, unprecedented abuses of power, intentional healthcare sabotage, and separation of families at our border)—in a careless panic, you invariably drop a familiar closing salvo:
“But the economy!”
Unable to refute the reality of his transgressions (things you know to be immoral to say the least), this becomes your go-to conversation stopper; the supposed surefire mic drop, that settles everything and closes the case and trumps the rest.
It’s also a flat-out heretical disgrace, and something any human being with a minimum of decency should feel sickened even saying.
Let’s assume for a moment that a president is solely responsible for the present economy at any given moment (which of course, he is not.)
And let’s assume that all the economic indicators right now in America are universally positive (which of course, they are not.)
And let’s assume that these indicators will yield the personal financial windfalls they imagine are coming (which of course, they certainly won’t.)
Even if these things were true, in what version of human morality does any of that mean a damn thing?
Since when is the point of existence to accrue cash and horde wealth at any cost?
How can it be acceptable that financial security and material wealth are reasons to overlook unchecked depravity and repeated assaults on humanity?
Don’t you see the problem?
There are no wild theological gymnastics that can somehow make one’s 401K more valuable than the lives of sick people losing healthcare, or migrant children still displaced, or people of color marginalized by alarmist rhetoric.
You cannot call yourself a decent human being supporting a guy who - daily - breaks ethical and moral laws, just so you can see a little bump in your mutual fund and to willfully ignore adultery, lying, child abuse, sexual assault, theft, bigotry, racism, obstruction, corruption, and treason, “because the economy”—is essentially to renounce to human values, taking the money and running in the opposite direction.
This isn’t about the numbers, it’s about the cost of chasing them.
Something, evidently, you cannot understand.
When you and your republican buddies are faced with the mounting evidence and growing laundry list of moral atrocities proffered by this president and his administration (affairs, lies, clandestine porn star payoffs, Russian election interference, unprecedented abuses of power, intentional healthcare sabotage, and separation of families at our border)—in a careless panic, you invariably drop a familiar closing salvo:
“But the economy!”
Unable to refute the reality of his transgressions (things you know to be immoral to say the least), this becomes your go-to conversation stopper; the supposed surefire mic drop, that settles everything and closes the case and trumps the rest.
It’s also a flat-out heretical disgrace, and something any human being with a minimum of decency should feel sickened even saying.
Let’s assume for a moment that a president is solely responsible for the present economy at any given moment (which of course, he is not.)
And let’s assume that all the economic indicators right now in America are universally positive (which of course, they are not.)
And let’s assume that these indicators will yield the personal financial windfalls they imagine are coming (which of course, they certainly won’t.)
Even if these things were true, in what version of human morality does any of that mean a damn thing?
Since when is the point of existence to accrue cash and horde wealth at any cost?
How can it be acceptable that financial security and material wealth are reasons to overlook unchecked depravity and repeated assaults on humanity?
Don’t you see the problem?
There are no wild theological gymnastics that can somehow make one’s 401K more valuable than the lives of sick people losing healthcare, or migrant children still displaced, or people of color marginalized by alarmist rhetoric.
You cannot call yourself a decent human being supporting a guy who - daily - breaks ethical and moral laws, just so you can see a little bump in your mutual fund and to willfully ignore adultery, lying, child abuse, sexual assault, theft, bigotry, racism, obstruction, corruption, and treason, “because the economy”—is essentially to renounce to human values, taking the money and running in the opposite direction.
This isn’t about the numbers, it’s about the cost of chasing them.
Something, evidently, you cannot understand.
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xy5jn0
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CNN Contributor Smears Mike Pence, Says He’s A 'Christian Supremacist' Seeking To 'Impose Religion' As President
xy5jn0
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xy5jn0
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Cool story bro. I'm to busy retweeting stuff like mike does to refute every single point so I'll just pick healthcare which I lost when the half black thing said "if you like your doctor you can keep him" and "if you like your health plan keep it" Lost both. So don't go telling me how fucking moral and right you, the half black thing and the rest of you libs are.
Mister Sandman
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It’s not about “us”’being moral but about “you” not being it
xy5jn0
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Oh ok. You don't have to be. Got it
How sweet it is ...
As I noted in an update to this post, another sleazy influence peddler, Sam Patten, just pled guilty to a FARA violation. As his criminal information lays out, he pled to serving as an agent of Konstantin Kilimnik and Serhiy Lyovochkin without registering under FARA. His plea agreement (which notes he first made a proffer on May 22, meaning this is another investigation that has been going on months that is being finalized in the last days of August) included a cooperation agreement.
More interesting details, however, are the descriptions of the other crimes he is being excused from, which appear in the statement of the offense.
First, there’s a description of how he served as a straw purchaser for Lyovochkin for inauguration tickets.
To circumvent the foreign donation restriction, PATTEN, with the knowledge of Foreigner A, solicited a United States citizen to act as a “straw” purchaser so that he could conceal from the [Presidential Inauguration Committee] that the tickets for the inauguration were being paid for from a foreign source. The straw purchaser paid $50,000 for four inauguration tickets. The straw purchaser paid that sum one day after receiving from Company A a check signed by PATTEN in the sum of $50,000. In turn, Foreigner B had paid Company A for the tickets though a Cypriot account. [Kilimnik and Lyovochkin] another Ukrainian, and PATTEN were allocated the four inauguration tickets. Thereafter, PATTEN attended a PIC even in Washington, D.C. with Foreigner B.
I suspect we’ll see a lot more straw purchasers funneling money from foreigners who backed his campaign into Donald Trump’s pocket before this investigation is done.
Less sexy, but procedurally more important, is the revelation that Patten also lied to SCCI.
In or about January 2018, the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) sought PATTEN’s voluntary testimony on various topics. In advance of that testimony, the SSCI sought various pertinent documents from PATTEN.
In or about January 2018, PATTEN testified before the SSCI. Both before and during his testimony, PATTEN misled the SSCI in that he intentionally did not provide SSCI certain documents that could lead to revelation of him causing and concealing the foreign purchase of the PIC tickets, described about, and gave false and misleading testimony to avoid disclosing that he had caused and concealed foreign money to be paid to the PIC. In addition, PATTEN provided misleading testimony about his representation of foreign principals in the United States, so as to conceal his violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Finally, after the interview, PATTEN deleted documents pertinent to his relationships with the above-described foreign principals.
As noted, this is one of the additional crimes that Patten will avoid being charged for by pleading to the FARA charge. Reportedly, SSCI made its own criminal referral, based off different comments.
All of this might concern people like Don Jr, who pretty clearly lied to multiple committees. Because it shows Mueller will use such crimes for leverage.
But Mueller probably has bigger things planned for Don Jr.
As I noted in an update to this post, another sleazy influence peddler, Sam Patten, just pled guilty to a FARA violation. As his criminal information lays out, he pled to serving as an agent of Konstantin Kilimnik and Serhiy Lyovochkin without registering under FARA. His plea agreement (which notes he first made a proffer on May 22, meaning this is another investigation that has been going on months that is being finalized in the last days of August) included a cooperation agreement.
More interesting details, however, are the descriptions of the other crimes he is being excused from, which appear in the statement of the offense.
First, there’s a description of how he served as a straw purchaser for Lyovochkin for inauguration tickets.
To circumvent the foreign donation restriction, PATTEN, with the knowledge of Foreigner A, solicited a United States citizen to act as a “straw” purchaser so that he could conceal from the [Presidential Inauguration Committee] that the tickets for the inauguration were being paid for from a foreign source. The straw purchaser paid $50,000 for four inauguration tickets. The straw purchaser paid that sum one day after receiving from Company A a check signed by PATTEN in the sum of $50,000. In turn, Foreigner B had paid Company A for the tickets though a Cypriot account. [Kilimnik and Lyovochkin] another Ukrainian, and PATTEN were allocated the four inauguration tickets. Thereafter, PATTEN attended a PIC even in Washington, D.C. with Foreigner B.
I suspect we’ll see a lot more straw purchasers funneling money from foreigners who backed his campaign into Donald Trump’s pocket before this investigation is done.
Less sexy, but procedurally more important, is the revelation that Patten also lied to SCCI.
In or about January 2018, the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) sought PATTEN’s voluntary testimony on various topics. In advance of that testimony, the SSCI sought various pertinent documents from PATTEN.
In or about January 2018, PATTEN testified before the SSCI. Both before and during his testimony, PATTEN misled the SSCI in that he intentionally did not provide SSCI certain documents that could lead to revelation of him causing and concealing the foreign purchase of the PIC tickets, described about, and gave false and misleading testimony to avoid disclosing that he had caused and concealed foreign money to be paid to the PIC. In addition, PATTEN provided misleading testimony about his representation of foreign principals in the United States, so as to conceal his violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Finally, after the interview, PATTEN deleted documents pertinent to his relationships with the above-described foreign principals.
As noted, this is one of the additional crimes that Patten will avoid being charged for by pleading to the FARA charge. Reportedly, SSCI made its own criminal referral, based off different comments.
All of this might concern people like Don Jr, who pretty clearly lied to multiple committees. Because it shows Mueller will use such crimes for leverage.
But Mueller probably has bigger things planned for Don Jr.
“Oceanic society rests ultimately on the belief that Big Brother is omnipotent and that the Party is infallible. But since in reality Big Brother is not omnipotent and the party is not infallible, there is need for an unwearying, moment-to-moment flexibility in the treatment of facts. The keyword here is BLACKWHITE. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to BELIEVE that black is white, and more, to KNOW that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary.”
― George Orwell, 1984
― George Orwell, 1984
