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MANWHORE
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Well I am not in the kkk... Anymore... But I am a Nazi and I do like TRUMP but I am also a U.S. Marine and directly related to the WhiTe Anglo Saxons that run this country. I have the paperwork to prove it..
This country is about money and when you spend or make money it's while doing Business so that makes this county a Business and TRUMP is VerY good with business ..
This reply is faCt and not open for debate!! Which rhymes with masturbate something I may be doing the next few days because I am in the doghouse!
This country is about money and when you spend or make money it's while doing Business so that makes this county a Business and TRUMP is VerY good with business ..
This reply is faCt and not open for debate!! Which rhymes with masturbate something I may be doing the next few days because I am in the doghouse!
Eman
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Ha. Haha. Hahaha hahaha.......
tenpoundsleft
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And Romney is a left-wing liberal kind of RINO - so what exactly does that prove?
BTW, I'm sure if I were to dig back in the archives, back when Romney ran against Obama, I bet you were shovelling dirt in his direction.
Tell us instead why you think a PROVEN, corrupt to the core, and sickly at that, in-it-for-me-me-me-me "person" like Hillary deserves anyone's vote?
tenpoundsleft
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The Brits are so eloquent and well enunciated:
tenpoundsleft
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Per the Associated Press:
"More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money—either personally or through companies or groups—to the Clinton Foundation…. At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press."
This is why Trump, with all his warts, is infinitely preferable to anyone from the Clinton Mafia.
"More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money—either personally or through companies or groups—to the Clinton Foundation…. At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press."
This is why Trump, with all his warts, is infinitely preferable to anyone from the Clinton Mafia.
MANWHORE
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Well he's a billionaire so I'd say that pretty much covers my side of the argument!
Eman
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I honestly doubt it. He's claimed ten billion, Forbes believes he's around 3 and the accounts that I believe estimate his net worth to be closer to 200 million once his enormous debt is considered. Forbes estimated Elizabeth Holmes was a billionare too... google her.
The only successful aspect of Trump's life is his ability to brand himself. That's it.
There is nothing extraordinary about Trump as a businessman. He inherited a great deal of wealth and made money in NY doing real estate during a time that many people made lots of money in real estate in NY. He's a successful con man, not a successful businessman.
MANWHORE
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His name is in the ghetto dictionary!
"My savings account TRUMPS yours any day!"
My father worked for him TRUMP is a great guy. My father is a Vietnam vet 1yr in combat and 30yrs as a firefighter in Jersey City talk about heros ..
Trump will put this country in the right direction without a doubt.
Now stop talkin cause I'm goin to bed!
Eman
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Trump will be a disaster.
The majority of individuals voting for Trump are only doing so because he's not Hillary. Anyone who actually believes in Trump's policies is very foolish... his tax plan alone will add about 10 trillion to our debt. Luckily, he's a man who already knows how to operate under heavy debt I guess? But make America great again? Get real. His only plans for infrastructure that in aware of are to build a wall lol.
I get the argument that they are both bad but Hillary is worse because she's "evil" ... what a pathetic excuse to use in the decision to vote in a completely unqualified person into the white house. We will be the laughing stock of the world except of course for Russia... think about that for a minute.
Then the voters that refuse to vote due to moral reasons... They don't want to vote in either candidate because they are "evil". For Christ sake... voting isn't a moral decision. It's a strategic decision. Citizenship over individualism and quite frankly, a civic duty. Further, there is NO such thing as not voting. Food for thought.
Oh and I'm a great guy too, many people are saying this. Can I count on your vote?
I promise, I'll be so great it'll make your head spin - I'll even hold meetings with my family prior to making serious political decisions.Trump will be a disaster.
The majority of individuals voting for Trump are only doing so because he's not Hillary. Anyone who actually believes in Trump's policies is very foolish... his tax plan alone will add about 10 trillion to our debt. Luckily, he's a man who already knows how to operate under heavy debt I guess? But make America great again? Get real. His only plans for infrastructure that in aware of are to build a wall lol.
I get the argument that they are both bad but Hillary is worse because she's "evil" ... what a pathetic excuse to use in the decision to vote in a completely unqualified person into the white house. We will be the laughing stock of the world except of course for Russia... think about that for a minute.
Then the voters that refuse to vote due to moral reasons... They don't want to vote in either candidate because they are "evil". For Christ sake... voting isn't a moral decision. It's a strategic decision. Citizenship over individualism and quite frankly, a civic duty. Further, there is NO such thing as not voting. Food for thought.
Oh and I'm a great guy too, many people are saying this. Can I count on your vote?
Strongly disagree. Voting is not a duty or obligation and there is a such thing as not voting. Voting is a right. Period. Much like the right of freedom of religion or free speech, you're not obligated to believe in anything or use your speech.
Eman
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That's certainly your prerogative, Doc.
However, not voting is still voting. Inaction is action.
Perhaps the powers that be would like to thank you for not voting. Less intervention of the governed is no problem for them.
Staying home on voting day is a vote all the same, it just means you have no voice and even less strategy. There is no moral high ground to be had by "putting your foot down" although it's sadly widespread in modern times.
Voting is not comparable to free speech or religion either although I understand your analogy because it's made often in political science. You may be right, it's debatable that voting is a duty - it's most certainly a right. I believe it's an obligatory right though. It's not the same to compare the obligation aspect to free speech or religion IMO.
Eman
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If compulsory voting ever becomes a reality in this country, this would become a very ironic and interesting conversation.
If compulsory voting ever becomes a reality in this country, this would become a very ironic and interesting conversation.
Then my continued non-vote would be considered civil disobedience
There is no significant difference between the voice of a voter and a non-voter. How much does your voice count if you vote compared to mine? The answer is so little you may as well say you have no voice either.
Eman
Master
What is the difference in voice compared to a vote vs a non vote?
Um.. a 100% difference. Lol.
It doesn't bother me THAT much that ppl don't vote. Claiming a moral high ground is annoying and humorous simultaneously though.
I phrased my question incorrectly lol. Sorry for that. My real question was, how much more of a voice does a voter have vs a non-voter?
I don't claim a moral high ground. I just refuse to play a game that's rigged from the beginning and one that is corrupt under the influence of money.
Eman
Master
Just to clarify, I wasn't accusing you. Just talking.
Different question but my answer doesn't change much actually. The fact that one vote is not only for a candidate but, perhaps more importantly, a vote AGAINST another.
I think a lot of your beliefs in regards to voting are based in something called the downs paradox. But the downs paradox only applies when ONE vote is what makes a difference compared to the voice of the collective I believe.
A lot of people in this country play directly into political cynicism rather than simply playing the game. Not voting is political cynicism at it's finest, your own reasons for abstention. But it's playing right into the politicians hands because you're not voting for anyone and thus are not voting against anyone all the same. It's your right though - people have fought and died to protect your right to participate AND abstain. I'll stop you before you say it, they did fight for other issues too.
I know you weren't. I just wanted to clarify that I don't see myself as better than anyone who does decide to vote.
Different question but my answer doesn't change much actually. The fact that one vote is not only for a candidate but, perhaps more importantly, a vote AGAINST another.
I think a lot of your beliefs in regards to voting are based in something called the downs paradox. But the downs paradox only applies when ONE vote is what makes a difference compared to the voice of the collective I believe.
A lot of people in this country play directly into political cynicism rather than simply playing the game. Not voting is political cynicism at it's finest, your own reasons for abstention. But it's playing right into the politicians hands because you're not voting for anyone and thus are not voting against anyone all the same. It's your right though - people have fought and died to protect your right to participate AND abstain. I'll stop you before you say it, they did fight for other issues too.
Definitely different question but that's what I wanted to ask but worded it wrong initially lol.
The voice of the collective even doesn't matter bc it's the electoral college that decides who becomes president. There are times when the majority vote doesn't coincide with the electoral vote.
Since there is nobody I WANT to vote for AND I can't vote AGAINST both people, what would you have me do besides choosing not to vote?
I know many people died to defend my right to vote, they also died to defend my right not to vote as well. Unfortunately these same people have died for monetary reasons. Wars are about money. Politicians send people off to die for this same money. If it was their life in the line do you think they'd go to war as often?
I should also add I respect your right and decision to vote. I don't want to take that away from you. I just happen to see things from a different perspective on this matter.
