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Nope, Hillary. Trump getting nominated ensures Republicans lose the general, that is really why this is all really frustrating. Trump has opened the door for Hillary to get a huge turnout from women and minorities because of his rhetoric. Minorities and women will make sure to vote if Trump is nominated. Trumps nomination will force the Republican Party to make some dramatic changes.

I dunno, I don't think anyone else in that sorry list of republican candidates has a chance against Hillary. But she has a lot of buried skeletons none of them would dare talk about. Trump will go after her. He will be digging up bones.
 
Nope, Hillary. Trump getting nominated ensures Republicans lose the general, that is really why this is all really frustrating. Trump has opened the door for Hillary to get a huge turnout from women and minorities because of his rhetoric. Minorities and women will make sure to vote if Trump is nominated. Trumps nomination will force the Republican Party to make some dramatic changes.

Trump is currently polling higher with Hispanics than Romney did in the 2012 general.
Trump is currently polling higher with blacks than any Republican since the 1960s.
As soon as Hillary starts with the war on women thing - her only hope to win against any candidate - she'll quickly learn that Trump is not Romney. He has no boundaries and will push back harder than she can possibly imagine. He's already signaled that he'll go after her husband's behavior and hammer her hard on how she's defended Bill from rape allegations and allowed herself to be used as a door mat over his infidelity.

Whether you hate Trump or love him is irrelevant. He's proven to be an absolute master at playing the media. The RNC have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at him and they've only made him stronger. If the best the Republicans have to offer can't defeat Trump, why would you think Hillary (a flawed candidate at the best of times) and the DNC will do any better?

Underestimating Donald Trump is a mistake. He has already done the impossible and hasn't spent a cent. He's in full control of this election and it's his to lose. Hillary will never be POTUS. She'll be lucky if she doesn't go to jail before the election. Once the Donald starts attacking Her Thighness, he'll make her look as small, pathetic and weak as he did Jeb Bush.
 
That war on women bullshit annoys the fuck out of me. There is no more protected or coddled creature in the usa than women.
 
Political Hay
Are Reagan Democrats Becoming Trump Democrats?
Rand Paul channels Gerald Ford when he should be channeling Nixon and Reagan.

By Jeffrey Lord – 8.13.15

http://spectator.org/articles/63765/are-reagan-democrats-becoming-trump-democrats

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The Gallup poll. December, 1979.

President Jimmy Carter — 60%. Former California Governor Ronald Reagan — 36%. So confident was Carter White House Chief of Staff Hamilton Jordan of the coming year’s presidential election that he boasted: “The American people are not going to elect a seventy-year-old, right-wing, ex-movie actor to be president.” Hamilton Jordan was a smart guy — and he was also wildly wrong. A little less than a year later the American people — ignoring that Gallup poll — elected Ronald Reagan to the presidency in a landslide — in a three-way race. Reagan won 50.8% of the vote to Carter’s 41%. Third party candidate John Anderson, a liberal Republican who had been defeated by Reagan in the GOP primaries, won a mere 6.6% of the vote. Reagan carried 44 states to Carter’s six plus the District of Columbia.

What happened? How could Reagan go from losing a Gallup poll to Carter by 24 points — then winning the actual election by almost 10 points? Answer? The emergence of what would become known to political history as “the Reagan Democrats.” Who were they? Blue collar, working class, largely Catholic and ethnic, they originally emerged in Richard Nixon’s 1968 and 1972 elections. In which Nixon referred to them as the “Silent Majority.” In 1980, angered by Carter’s handling of the economy, the feckless handling of the Iran hostage crisis, and the left-wing tilt of the Democrats, these voters — many of whom had voted for John F. Kennedy twenty years earlier — returned with a vengeance. Famously, Macomb County, Michigan, which cast 63% of its vote for JFK in 1960, turned around in 1980 and voted 66% for Reagan.

On Tuesday night of this week, Donald Trump appeared in Birch Run, Michigan in Saginaw County. Here’s the headline from the Detroit Free Press:

A lovefest for Donald Trump in Birch Run

The story begins:

BIRCH RUN, Mich. — Addressing about 2,000 very enthusiastic people at the Birch Run Expo Center, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump touched on everything from immigration, China, the military, Obamacare and his Republican opponents.

The crowd, some coming from outside of Michigan, ate it up, giving him frequent standing ovations and breaking into chants of “Trump, Trump, Trump!” and “U.S.A, U.S.A.”​

The obvious question. Are Reagan Democrats returning to the center of the American political scene — this time known as Trump Democrats?

A new CNN poll in Iowa has some very revealing stats. The poll notes:

Donald Trump has a significant lead in the race to win over likely Iowa caucus-goers, according to the first CNN/ORC poll in the state this cycle. Overall, Trump tops the field with 22% and is the candidate seen as best able to handle top issues including the economy, illegal immigration and terrorism. He’s most cited as the one with the best chance of winning the general election, and, by a wide margin, as the candidate most likely to change the way things work in Washington.​


The poll targets Republicans only. But as in 1980 with Reagan, it doesn’t take much imagination to think that Trump’s overwhelming lead in categories like those with less than a college education or those earning less than $50,000 bodes well for his ability to win Democratic votes in considerable numbers.

A curiosity here is the reaction of Trump opponent Senator Rand Paul, who seems in his wrath at Trump to be channeling the late GOP Establishment champion President Gerald Ford. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/12/new-rand-paul-video-basically-calls-donald-trump-a-closet-democrat/ (Headlines) the Washington Post of a new Paul commercial attacking Trump:

New Rand Paul video basically calls Donald Trump a closet Democrat

The Post reports:

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s presidential campaign on Wednesday released an aggressive attack video questioning business mogul Donald Trump’s conservative bona fides.

“I probably identify more as a Democrat,” Trump is shown saying in the video. “I’ve been around for a long time, and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.” The words imposed on the screen as Trump speaks: “I … IDENTIFY MORE AS A DEMOCRAT.” [The all-caps are all theirs.]​

Hmmm. Compare the Paul attack with this story about the 1976 GOP primary campaign in Texas between Ronald Reagan and then-President Ford. Records Reagan biographer Steven F. Hayward in the first volume of his book The Age of Reagan: The Fall of the Old Liberal Order: 1964-1980:

During the Texas campaign Reagan began using a signature line in his appeal for crossover votes: “I was a Democrat most of my life.” Ford and the Republican Establishment professed outrage. Imagine! Seeking Democratic votes! (As if a Republican could win the White House without Democratic votes.)… The idea of “Reagan Democrats” had not yet entered the political lexicon.​

Just as Trump is now seen on tape saying he was a Democrat, so too was Reagan cited for the same issue. In fact, as heard here in this YouTube audio tape, there is Reagan captured singing the praises of Harry Truman in a 1948 speech endorsing Truman and also then-Minneapolis Mayor Hubert Humphrey who was running for the U.S. Senate — and would later become the 1968 Democratic nominee for president. Listening to the tape of Reagan and he sounds like nothing more than a late forties version of Barack Obama — railing against corporations and Republicans.

One is flummoxed that Senator Paul — as reported in the Los Angeles Times — was not long ago demanding that the GOP reach out to minorities — aka Democrats. Headlined the Times:

Rand Paul in Irvine says Republicans must broaden appeal to minorities

The story drove the point home:

As he traveled through Southern California on a two-day trip, Republican Sen. Rand Paul called on his party Friday to widen its outreach to minority voters, whom he said will help propel the party to victories nationwide.…

“People want know how we’re going to win?” he said. “We’re going to have to be different. We’re going to have to be the new GOP.”…

In a brief interview with The Times before his speech, Paul, who has labeled himself a “different kind of Republican,” said his message of party outreach to minorities has resonated.…

“I don’t care if it’s in an all-white evangelical church or all-Republican gathering, people need to hear it,” he said. “I’m a believer that for the Republican Party to grow, we need to be a broader, more diverse party.”​

Amazing, no? On the one hand Senator Paul is demanding outreach to become a “broader, more diverse party.” When Trump does just that — like the 1976 Ford campaign and GOP Establishment suddenly Paul recoils, professing outrage at Trump’s background as a Democrat — precisely the same charge hurled at Reagan by Ford.

You can’t make this stuff up.

There is a long, long way to go in this campaign. But one suspects that Donald Trump — as was true in that blue collar, auto-making state of Michigan the other night — is in the process of demonstrating just what Ronald Reagan once demonstrated to great effect.

Namely? Namely that having once been a Democrat is in fact nothing but an asset for a potential Republican nominee for president. The kind of asset that produces landslide Republican victories.
 
The line to our bathroom at a stadium or concert is MUCH MUCH shorter! Lol.

I'd like to see the same thing for the wealthy ppl too.
I had a feeling a urination reference was coming lol. I thought it would be about being able to stand up though.
 
I had a feeling a urination reference was coming lol. I thought it would be about being able to stand up though.

I thought that one initially but everybody says it. I put my little twist on it hahaha, although, another advantage could be we don't need a tissue or napkin when we pee in the woods either lol
 
The line to our bathroom at a stadium or concert is MUCH MUCH shorter! Lol.

I'd like to see the same thing for the wealthy ppl too.

The wealthy have a private bathroom in the vip box. No lines at all. You're right that they are a coddled class, though. Elections are always about their wants. Politicians just throw out issues like the global warming, immigration, the war on women, gay rights or minority rights, etc. as fodder for the voters - like a bone to a pack of dogs to fight over. It's to distract the voter from what they're doing for the donors.
 
Trump is currently polling higher with Hispanics than Romney did in the 2012 general.
Trump is currently polling higher with blacks than any Republican since the 1960s.
As soon as Hillary starts with the war on women thing - her only hope to win against any candidate - she'll quickly learn that Trump is not Romney. He has no boundaries and will push back harder than she can possibly imagine. He's already signaled that he'll go after her husband's behavior and hammer her hard on how she's defended Bill from rape allegations and allowed herself to be used as a door mat over his infidelity.

Whether you hate Trump or love him is irrelevant. He's proven to be an absolute master at playing the media. The RNC have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at him and they've only made him stronger. If the best the Republicans have to offer can't defeat Trump, why would you think Hillary (a flawed candidate at the best of times) and the DNC will do any better?

Underestimating Donald Trump is a mistake. He has already done the impossible and hasn't spent a cent. He's in full control of this election and it's his to lose. Hillary will never be POTUS. She'll be lucky if she doesn't go to jail before the election. Once the Donald starts attacking Her Thighness, he'll make her look as small, pathetic and weak as he did Jeb Bush.

The years of disappointment have made me cynical. The DNC is doing everything in its power to ensure Hillary wins the nomination and from polling I have seen, Hillary, for some reason, is getting many more black votes than Sanders (though early polling may not be reliable for predicting minority voter turnout). I have no idea why minorities would vote for Clinton over Sanders, I would have to assume it is because they are ignorant of Sanders voting record. I would love to see the socialist kick Hillary's ass, but I am skeptical that it will happen.

I hate the idea of Hillary stealing the election by playing the gender card. I honestly think a Trump nomination will scare the shit out of voters that never vote (or only voted for maybe Obama...once). I do hope that I am wrong. Honestly, I might prefer Trump beating Hillary just because I hate her so much and I think Trump getting elected would be like throwing a grenade at Washington, which would be great.
 
Name me some advantages that men have over women in this country.

They go to jail more often, and for longer periods of time...oh wait you said advantages.

Women in this country do have some legitimate grievances, but I don't think Hillary playing the female victim card helps women at all. In fact I think it hurts women and for women to be taken seriously in society, as equals, they have to be willing to actually stand up to men, not continue to be victims. Violence and sexual abuse against young girls and women is an issue, and women need to be able to defend themselves, not encouraged to curl up and take the abuse then tell authorities later.

But that is a major male advantage, men in general are much less likely to be sexually assaulted or abused, compared to females.
 
The wealthy have a private bathroom in the vip box. No lines at all. You're right that they are a coddled class, though. Elections are always about their wants. Politicians just throw out issues like the global warming, immigration, the war on women, gay rights or minority rights, etc. as fodder for the voters - like a bone to a pack of dogs to fight over. It's to distract the voter from what they're doing for the donors.

I agree with you completely. But I feel the same way about the war on terrorism (in general. I do believe in retaliating against the enemy) and the war on drugs, as well. I don't think politicians have a sympathetic bone in their body and their actions are motivated by greed. It seems like everyone in the country is terrified and fear is what motivates their votes. I don't like it when other peoples fear strips away my freedom. I'm willing to suffer for freedom, but not for other peoples need to feel secure.
 
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The wealthy have a private bathroom in the vip box. No lines at all. You're right that they are a coddled class, though. Elections are always about their wants. Politicians just throw out issues like the global warming, immigration, the war on women, gay rights or minority rights, etc. as fodder for the voters - like a bone to a pack of dogs to fight over. It's to distract the voter from what they're doing for the donors.

I couldn't have said it any better.

The papers by me latched on to it not that long ago. A Hispanic guy working 2 jobs to feed his family fell asleep behind the wheel of his car, hit and injured a pedestrian (no major injuries luckily) but ended up serving some time behind bars. A few months earlier, a wealthy Caucasian man killed someone while driving drunk. He ended up getting 2yrs probation I believe it was.
 
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