Frozen
Well-known Member
Man that was a bad return...
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
TSL LABS
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legendary
Well-known Member
I've ordered a few times. Best TA was 3 weeks. I did 2 bloods on his gear. One was on par and I think 1 was overdosed. I'm not a guy that orders last min. So TA didn't bother me. As far as communication I don't need that either. I also agree with a few post here about excuses. A few of us did go out of our way and compared tsl vs pharm. my trt same protocol I was about 800-900 on 200 mg wk and 15 free. On tsl I was over 1500 and 50 free. Another member that was on blast came back lower than pharm gear. Just proves he's inconsistent. I also used his tvar at 50mgs a day. And I have a script for pharm var at 20 mgs ed and tsl tvar didn't come close to straight pharm var at 20mg
JayWaWa
Member
Excuse my ignorance, but where is the cheap testing? I know someone who bought pcom amps of TA lately and believes they are seriously underdosed especially since said person ordered their TA in 10ml vial and the vial was on point. There is no comparing the two in potency, according to him, except to say the amps are way underdosed. Im sure he'd like to get them tested. Any point in the right direction would be appreciated im sure.
Hit up @Analyzer
System7
Well-known Member
Cause people were mean to him.
*sarah mclachlan voice*
jaymaximus
Pro
I think this answers my question..... thanks bro even though it wasn't intended to address my question
legendary
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It's in testing labs section. Look for analyzer thread
Sdryx
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I sure as fuck am not reading through this shit storm.
Did TSL ever get back those Chemtox tests we held his hand through getting?
Did TSL ever get back those Chemtox tests we held his hand through getting?
combover
Well-known Member
I've read this whole thread and don't recall results coming back. At the same time, I don't think quality has been an issue
Sdryx
Well-known Member
I do remember Test E complaints...
Heck, even if there were NO complaints I don't like taking a drug dealer's word for it when injecting.
I can't help but wonder why the Chemtox tests TSL sent out are not being produced for the suspected underdosed products... is more time needed or are they being withheld for some reason???
I think he contacted them idk if he sent them in or not, but it was right around when all that shit storming took place and he went inactive... So why bother right?
And even if he did get results ... Does it matter? We all know how that conversation will go.. "oh the supplier sent it in himself so he probably brewed a batch just for the testing and overdosed the product" and yadda yadda... There seems to be no winning unless someone random sends stuff in to analyzer or AL does the testing...
Sure, there will be some of that...but what difference does that make to the individual trying to take in all relevant info to make an informed decision? The individual can take results like the one you propose and temper it with all the different scenarios that are poossible and decide what to do with the info.
It sounds like a positive result may push you into an order, which is fine. The "what if" scenarios, as far out as some may be, will frustrate the ugl and some of the members who have either decided that tsl is the real deal or seem to be headed in that direction.
What could happen is that TSL could start to build on the positive results no matter how small the victory may be at this time. They will start to get some momentum. Sales will be happening for sure.
More positive reports and results will build confidence in tsl with members. Let the good times roll. At some point tsl can decide to do random testing on their raws and continue to offer credits to members posting bloods.
I used to be big on sources testing every batch of raws that they get before actually brewing any of the raws. I used ALP(karius) as an example. He posts the chemtox results in his thread for each raw before brewing.
Right now ALP is out of var, sust, test E, deca and some others because k is waiting for test results on his raws. K enjoys that kind of comfort. He owns the board his thread is in.(ab)
I felt all ugl's could pull this off. I assumed that the decent ugl's were getting large batches of raws. Maybe a kilo at a time. That was until I looked into things a little more. I'm close with a ugl who may be on its way out. Fucking up. I digress.
I've discovered that the climate as far as US Customs is concerned doesn't bode well for any of us, especially the ugl counting on China for raws.
China is responsible for all the counterfeit everything that comes into the US and the world. That's one thing.
China is also responsible for so many of the overdoses in our country. Young people are falling out and not waking up. Fentanyl and a long list of its analogues are being used to stretch the amount of heroin dealers have out in our streets even tonight. Fent is cheap and some of its analogues are 100 x stronger than the heroin its mixing with.
Our gov't has to do something. RAW DEAL took place because the perfect storm went down. The Beijing Olympics had the eyes of the world on China. The gov't there is well aware of what is being shipped out to the world. China would not be embarrassed and everything dried up for a time.
We were used to the Chinese New Year and those delays. 2007 saw a delay 3 times as long. We were tripping wondering if the party was over? We had survived GEAR GRINDER. Mexico and the farmacias and vetranarios were a memory. UGL's had taken off. The raw suppliers were far fewer than we see today. There were 4 or 5 powder suppliers that the Community utilized, for the most part. They were all good. Back then the talk was about things such as was the Primo from so and so really primo or was it EQ. It wasn't about the powders being cut in order to stretch profits. The stuff was on point strength wise.
The other thing was anyone could log on for the first time and spend a few hours looking around and place an order and get accurately dosed gear and get it for cheap. You didn't need to be plugged in behind the scenes to get the good shit. Noobs were getting the good shit and paying $25 for 10ml of test E @300mg/ml. The rest of the list was priced relative to the $25 test.
Fast forward to when the dust settled and guys caught in the net were settling in for the next couple of years at different federal institutions around the country. I wound up in Oregon. I spent some time with one half of a father/son ugl out of Arizona.
We heard the story of the guy behind one of the busted ugl's who put a bullet in his head. I'm not sure if the gov't thought they were locking up gangsters/mobsters but I do know they didn't care. They were busy basking in the spotlight while justifying to taxpayers that the astronomical budgets and money being spent was well worth it because testosterone was evil and turning children into monsters. The war on drugs was back making a difference.
Many of those indicted had no criminal records to speak of. They did now. The homes these criminals bought with money they worked for and paid taxes on for so many years were seized by our gov't. The prosecution need only show a mortgage payment was made up with some of the proceeds from the sale of gear and the home was gone.
If you helped your folks make a mortgage payment one month and you weren't taking what the gov't was giving you for time threats of seizing your parents home were made and kept. Retirement for your Father was gonna be gone. The gov't didn't need wire taps to prove things. They had accountants....forensic accountants who could/can tell you what was earned and what proceeds went where. A nightmare. Where the fuck was I going?
I'm sorry...i looked back. UGL's testing raws. All eyes are on China,,,,specifically the packs coming from china. Somewhere in the thousands of packs coming in from china is the fent and all its analogues that are killing our people. The white ones.
Before the fent there was the dick pills that Pfizer and Lilly were losing sales to. There was some silly named operation targeting overseas pharms selling dick pills but more than those our gov't was out to stop the indian and pakistani online pharms pushing scheduled drugs. Hydrocodone was named. Alprolozam(xanax) was next in line.
This week its PANGEA. Google is your friend. US Customs and its counterparts around the globe are looking at your packs coming from overseas. This is real life and had been discussed for a long time. You could be doing everything right protecting yourself. However, if you log onto the USPS web site without a VPN and put a tracking # in the search engine your isp has been captured and if that pack is picked off at customs they have the tracking # and the address of where the tracking search originated. If what you ordered pisses off the right people you may get a visit in the form of a controlled delivery. Its how some deep web vendors have fallen recently.
Shit....back to ugl testing. Eyes are on packs from china. The bigger the pack the more attention it attracts because the amount of drugs is relevant to the size of the pack being shipped. This has led to many of our ugl's receiving multiple smaller packs with raws and not the kilo size orders. This makes testing every batch received cost prohibitive. Maybe random testing.
I said pre ORD the gear was dosed properly. Its because the raws were on time. Post ord the # of powder suppliers is 100 times what it was and the quality is nowhere near what it was. I gotta go.
Maj1979
New Member
I haven't been here long but i can say if you come to meso you better be ready to be run through the mud. It is what it is. Good quality, services and communication will be the only thing that wins this board over. Then you'll still have a few A-holes on the tren train hard. Just yesterday I snapped on a dude because he didn't want to roll his window down so I can say good morning.
Buffhunter
New Member
FWIW I've always had good communication TA and the gear has always done what it's supposed to do.. Just had a TD not too long ago and it was 2 days. Too bad he doesn't do that with everybody...
bigpoppachump
New Member
Welp communication still sucks lol. Was gonna go to the well one more time but my inbox sits empty.
Fuck it, moving on
Fuck it, moving on
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