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[brutus79]

Gibson Les Pauls with PAF humbuckers plugged into Marshall Plexis loaded with Mullard EL-34 power tubes and Telefunken 12AX7s, tones set at 6 - 7 and volume dimed, driving 4 12" Celestion greenbacks. Have been since I was 14-years-old and I never get tired of it. Absolute bliss!

Thats a 30k set up used!

 

[Sworder]

Google Ninja is classic!!!!
mands

Well Mands, google scholar is a great tool. I have access to the databases where the studies are but you can also use google scholar too. But you have to be able to actually interpret studies too. None of my posts are copy and pasted unless I am copying and pasting to reference an article. Which is what I am supposed to do no? I think people cannot refute arguments and then go to personal attacks and name calling such as "google ninja" or whatever. But Didn't CBS "google these studies?" Yes he did, however he wasn't able to comprehend and discuss the material and it ended up with him running away from the thread:
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/think-dnp-can-be-used-safely-think-again.134364167/

The vets exposed his bullshit out on another forum before banning his worthless ass. Be very skeptical of any advice he gives. Sworder is a fraud.
Read the entire thread. It's well worth the time:

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

It is actually a good thread, read through it. If you want, tell me why trenbolone or any other androgen/SARM couldn't be used in HRT along side hCG?
Why is testosterone the optimal hormone? Would using another hormone in HRT which doesn't convert to DHT so it would minimize potential prostate AR activity be a benefit?

How am I a fraud when I am not claiming to be anything?

Oh wait... You are going back to the "DEFLECT PERSONAL ATTACKS CHANGE SUBJECT MAKE HUMOROUS COMMENTS" motto..

CBS you can't support an argument. And yes, I got banned because I was discussing a topic.

Nobody was able to really refute or answer so a ban was most appropriate. It's the same type of behavior you do. "I CAN'T ANSWER THIS DEFLECT/BAN"
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

Keep talking I can't keep up. I will jump in on another thread were a topic is being discussed.

 

[Sworder]

Here are some other threads too from steroid dot com from yours truly:
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...wers/517975-low-dose-testsoterone-needed.html
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...atment-anti-aging/517994-hcg-monotherapy.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...swers/516456-hcg-information-quick-guide.html

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

And yes, I got banned because I was discussing a topic.

You got banned because you were caught asking noob questions on Meso. You then reworded the replies you received (from real experts) and posted them on steroid.com as though you were some kind of expert. You are FOS, Sworder. You are a fraud. Now everyone knows it.

Everyone, please read the steroid.com thread. They completely exposed this fraud.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

 

[mands]

Well Mands, google scholar is a great tool. I have access to the databases where the studies are but you can also use google scholar too. But you have to be able to actually interpret studies too. None of my posts are copy and pasted unless I am copying and pasting to reference an article. Which is what I am supposed to do no? I think people cannot refute arguments and then go to personal attacks and name calling such as "google ninja" or whatever. But Didn't CBS "google these studies?" Yes he did, however he wasn't able to comprehend and discuss the material and it ended up with him running away from the thread:
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/think-dnp-can-be-used-safely-think-again.134364167/



http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

It is actually a good thread, read through it. If you want, tell me why trenbolone or any other androgen/SARM couldn't be used in HRT along side hCG?
Why is testosterone the optimal hormone? Would using another hormone in HRT which doesn't convert to DHT so it would minimize potential prostate AR activity be a benefit?

How am I a fraud when I am not claiming to be anything?

Oh wait... You are going back to the "DEFLECT PERSONAL ATTACKS CHANGE SUBJECT MAKE HUMOROUS COMMENTS" motto..

CBS you can't support an argument. And yes, I got banned because I was discussing a topic.

Nobody was able to really refute or answer so a ban was most appropriate. It's the same type of behavior you do. "I CAN'T ANSWER THIS DEFLECT/BAN"
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

Keep talking I can't keep up. I will jump in on another thread were a topic is being discussed.

You have to admit google ninja is funny. You have a since of humor.

And I don't know why you were banned. It certainly looks like you were banned for trying to deceive members.

So, why were you banned? You really think it was because they couldn't refute the information given?

mands

 

[Sworder]

You got banned because you were caught asking noob questions on Meso. You then reworded the replies you received (from real experts) and posted them on steroid.com as though you were some kind of expert. You are FOS, Sworder. You are a fraud. Now everyone knows it.

Everyone, please read the steroid.com thread. They completely exposed this fraud.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

What that thread is is the same type of responses you post. Cannot stay on subject, deflect and then personal attacks. Notice how I stay on topic and try to have a discussion about the topic itself...

It's a good thread which exhibits the same behavior you do. Maybe steroid dot com is a good forum for you. Just need to kiss a little ass and then you are in the circle jerk team.

I got work to do now, yes, I am a fraudulent member?. Fraud in regards to nothing but okay I am a fraud.

If I were such an idiot it would probably be easier to shoot down my argument but you resort to personals. That's fine, I have been on a lot of forums I know how it works.

 

[Sworder]

You have to admit google ninja is funny. You have a since of humor.

And I don't know why you were banned. It certainly looks like you were banned for trying to deceive members.

So, why were you banned? You really think it was because they couldn't refute the information given?

mands

Yeah I know I don't take it to heart.

I was banned because people couldn't accept I had a difference in opinion. Yes, I really did get banned for that reason. If you can find a post on there where I was "selling" anything or finding anything to WHY I was banned you won't. They didn't like what I had to say about certain topics and easy fix is to ban. Imagine if there were moderators here, who do you think it would be? Possibly CBS/JBZ/Brutus? Do you think they would ban me?

They banned another good friend of mine on steroid dot com too for difference in a opinion in a discussion.

Here is some threads, I can't find the one where I was arguing with Marcus and Swifto too, and that's what really got people jaded 'cuz he looked like a dumbass. Atomini was banned too I see, that guy is really smart.. They ban because they cannot discuss intelligently. Me, obviously I discuss a lot and if there is a difference in opinion I state mine and support it. If I am wrong I am wrong, but I come out enlightened from the discussion. Proven wrong means you learned something new. It's a good thing for some, some it means their e-peen was hurt.

I don't do many personal attacks so that is not the reason, I didn't try to deceive anybody. I like bringing up topics and argue for or against something just to see how valid something really is. Like the Tren for HRT topic. Very controversial, and at first glance it may seem like "WTF IS SWORDER RETARDED" but if you read the actual post and arguments there is some substance to it.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/518286-steroids-jaw-growth.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...ow-about-tren-how-use-effectively-thread.html

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

So, why were you banned? You really think it was because they couldn't refute the information given?

No one can refute the great Google Ninja, Mands! He's more powerful than God! LMFAO

HRTstudent
HRT Specialist ~ Knowledgeable Member

If through thousands of years of evolution our bodies came up with testosterone ... I'm willing to bet there is a good reason for it.
If you don't believe at all in evolution of course, then, can you really expect to outsmart God?!​

Sworder
Banned

​

Yes, I do!

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html​

 

[Sworder]

No one can refute the great Google Ninja, Mands! He's more powerful than God! LMFAO

HRTstudent
HRT Specialist ~ Knowledgeable Member

If through thousands of years of evolution our bodies came up with testosterone ... I'm willing to bet there is a good reason for it.
If you don't believe at all in evolution of course, then, can you really expect to outsmart God?!​

Sworder
Banned

​

Yes, I do!​

Also, at his comment about 1000 years of evolution our bodies came up with testosterone.. Funny how the past 100 years the average level of testosterone has dropped by I think it is 100%? Something crazy like that I can try to find the citation, but why would evolution lead to us having less testosterone now?

Also, evolution is a theory and no, I do not believe in God. If there was a way to measure God's existence and figure out that he put his son Jesus on this planet I would consider it to some extent. God is a theory too and I believe more in science.. This planet among millions and millions of other planets... Is it one god per planet? One god that controls the universe? One god/planet with living organisms?

I actually stand fast by this to this day. There are better androgens out there and there is a lot of research being done to facilitate this coming in action.

SARMs are just that... We will be able to find something sooner or later to help with a lot of the problems "God" gave us.

We have already outsmarted god, fuck we can transplant hearts... I don't think god "intended" for us to be swapping hearts left and right

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Also, at his comment about 1000 years of evolution our bodies came up with testosterone.. Funny how the past 100 years the average level of testosterone has dropped by I think it is 100%? Something crazy like that I can try to find the citation, but why would evolution lead to us having less testosterone now?
Also, evolution is a theory..

I actually stand fast by this to this day. There are better androgens out there and there is a lot of research being done to facilitate this coming in action.

SARMs are just that... We will be able to find something sooner or later to help with a lot of the problems "God" gave us.

We have already outsmarted god, fuck we can transplant hearts... I don't think god "intended" for us to be swapping hearts left and right

Why don't you do something useful like start a new thread on your thoughts about SARMs and trenbolone for trt on the steroid forum. Then I'll be happy to comment.

 

[Sworder]

Why don't you do something useful like start a new thread on your thoughts about SARMs and trenbolone for trt on the steroid forum. Then I'll be happy to comment.

I will, it will be in the TRT forum. Gimme a day or two got work to catch up on.

I was actually working on a thread about competitive inhibition between AAS in regards to an article Bill Roberts wrote too but then I got sucked into this.

Glad to hear you asking for some actual contribution that way we can argue and also maybe educate lol.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The appropriateness of an administrator trying to influence the direction of the forum (no matter how well-intentioned it may be) is a legitimate question. I don't dispute that. Whether my influence is harmful (for the purposes of free speech or productive discussion) is another topic. I don't think it is.

The logical remedy would be for me to restrict/eliminate my participation to influence the direction of the forum or otherwise promote my vision for the forum.

Millard, are you seriously considering whether or not you should restrict/eliminate your participation on the forum?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

You got banned because you were caught asking noob questions on Meso. You then reworded the replies you received (from real experts) and posted them on steroid.com as though you were some kind of expert. You are FOS, Sworder. You are a fraud. Now everyone knows it.

Everyone, please read the steroid.com thread. They completely exposed this fraud.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...-trenbolone-hrt-better-than-testosterone.html

Bahahahahahaha!!!

For the WIN!! Poke yourself Sworder....youre done! LMAO!

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...t-better-than-testosterone-2.html#post6277085

 

[wsw16]

Also, at his comment about 1000 years of evolution our bodies came up with testosterone.. Funny how the past 100 years the average level of testosterone has dropped by I think it is 100%? Something crazy like that I can try to find the citation, but why would evolution lead to us having less testosterone now?

Also, evolution is a theory and no, I do not believe in God. If there was a way to measure God's existence and figure out that he put his son Jesus on this planet I would consider it to some extent. God is a theory too and I believe more in science.. This planet among millions and millions of other planets... Is it one god per planet? One god that controls the universe? One god/planet with living organisms?

I actually stand fast by this to this day. There are better androgens out there and there is a lot of research being done to facilitate this coming in action.

SARMs are just that... We will be able to find something sooner or later to help with a lot of the problems "God" gave us.

We have already outsmarted god, fuck we can transplant hearts... I don't think god "intended" for us to be swapping hearts left and right

Why have testosterone levels dropped? very simple because the general population are consuming more shit processed foods full of chemicals and diets are becoming worse and worse, alcohol and recreational drug consumption has risen and because the population as a whole have become more lazy and live a far more sedentary lifestyle. Or is it just a coincidence that testosterone levels have dropped and obesity levels are through the roof, morbidity is at an all time high, heart disease and diabetes is more and more prevalent and not to mention cancer. Why do athletes, bodybuilders, active people and cultures that have not been westernized yet are healthier and have higher levels of testosterone?

Wow that steroid.com thread is gold, mind boggling

 

[Sworder]

Why do athletes, bodybuilders, active people and cultures that have not been westernized yet are healthier and have higher levels of testosterone?

Wow that steroid.com thread is gold, mind boggling

Wsw, eastern countries such as Japan have a healthier diet and lower testosterone levels than westernized. I can provide citations if needed. Please provide a proper argument next time before you are "mind boggled."

 

[wsw16]

Your citations aren't needed, Japan became westernised a long time ago. Please provide a proper argument or refute other points better before trying to sound smart or controversial

 

[Sworder]

Your citations aren't needed, Japan became westernised a long time ago. Please provide a proper argument or refute other points better before trying to sound smart or controversial

Oh really? Which eastern country has not been westernized? China? Lowest T levels as well.. Thailand.. Lowest T levels.
Please tell me then what eastern countries have not been westernized? And also, which of these would you consider westernized?

 

[wsw16]

You're the one that's trying to make the point you complain that cbs and others just deflect but you're actually worse how about you stop going around in circles throwing out baseless comments and finally make a solid concrete argument to prove your point since apparently you're right and everyone else is wrong. I can provide examples based on studies. But it all comes down to very simple concepts. Why are men or populations who are in environments where survival is the main priority have higher T levels? Where does survival of the fittest tie in to all of it? Why is testosterone higher in fitter, stronger men? Why was obesity not an epidemic before? Why do obese unhealthy men have lower T levels? You think the natural evolution of mankind is moving forward that's why T levels are lower? Science, technology and medicine maybe but that's it

 

[MANWHORE]

My Opinion..

Men don't act like Men
Anymore is what I think the cause is ..

I bet farm workers have a higher
level of testosterone because they do what a man was built to do ...
Work hard labor and bring home the bacon for his woman ...

working out your fingers arguing on a BBing forum is probably not the best exercise for increasing a man's natural testosterone levels...

I remember when I was a young lad in Ireland I used to work on my counsins uncle's sisters daughters farm all day milking the bulls..
happy bastards those big fuckers are ...

Peace Out

 

[Sworder]

You're the one that's trying to make the point you complain that cbs and others just deflect but you're actually worse how about you stop going around in circles throwing out baseless comments and finally make a solid concrete argument to prove your point since apparently you're right and everyone else is wrong. I can provide examples based on studies. But it all comes down to very simple concepts. Why are men or populations who are in environments where survival is the main priority have higher T levels? Where does survival of the fittest tie in to all of it? Why is testosterone higher in fitter, stronger men? Why was obesity not an epidemic before? Why do obese unhealthy men have lower T levels? You think the natural evolution of mankind is moving forward that's why T levels are lower? Science, technology and medicine maybe but that's it

Hahaha, okay so change the subject now? Our subject was very clear. You said more or less I was a dumb ass and countries that have not been westernized have high t levels. I refuted.

Nice discussion I am MIND BOGGLED.

Deflect, change the subject, personal attacks, humorous comments....