[Ultimate Pharmaceuticals][TestP][Bloods/MS][2015-01][ZRT/CaptForest]

[romaleos]

Sorry I've been slacking on getting this up.

OK, riddle me this. If you review my bloods, then you could conclude that the product taken is under dosed. BUT a mass spec analysis by Capt Forest indicates that the product is severely under dosed at approximately 10mg/ml. Bloods came back at 4.45x TT in accordance with label claims but based on the protocol and quantitative analysis of the product it yielded 44x TT levels.

Something went wrong somewhere. All these tests have only convoluted the situation. I honestly had excellent gains and met my goals for this cycle. Anyway, it is what it is. I'm moving on to the next cycle. Chalking this one up to experience.

The protocol:
Test P 200mg/EOD
NPP 100mg/EOD
ADEX .5mg/ED
HCG 250iu/2x/week

Sample taken 3 weeks in and 24 hours after last pin. Capt Forest did the mass spec. The Test P is sample #8. The full results and thread can be found here https://thinksteroids.com/community...ysis-on-various-substances-results.134363012/

The results:

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Ultimate pharm test P is no bueno. Thanks for posting up. Did you at least get taken care of?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Sorry I've been slacking on getting this up.

OK, riddle me this. If you review my bloods, then you could conclude that the product taken is under dosed. BUT a mass spec analysis by Capt Forest indicates that the product is severely under dosed at approximately 10mg/ml. Bloods came back at 4.45x TT in accordance with label claims but based on the protocol and quantitative analysis of the product it yielded 44x TT levels.

Something went wrong somewhere. All these tests have only convoluted the situation. I honestly had excellent gains and met my goals for this cycle. Anyway, it is what it is. I'm moving on to the next cycle. Chalking this one up to experience.

The protocol:
Test P 200mg/EOD
NPP 100mg/EOD
ADEX .5mg/ED
HCG 250iu/2x/week

Sample taken 3 weeks in and 24 hours after last pin. Capt Forest did the mass spec. The Test P is sample #8. The full results and thread can be found here https://thinksteroids.com/community...ysis-on-various-substances-results.134363012/

The results:
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Thanks for posting.. You can still make great gains with a 3000 TT level but it's obviously not what it's supposed to be. I wonder if the NPP was prop and that skewed the bloods?? If not something seems off with the MS. I have no idea how to read that report so hopefully someone smarter than me chimes in.

 

[GigaloRob]

Thanks for posting.. You can still make great gains with a 3000 TT level but it's obviously not what it's supposed to be. I wonder if the NPP was prop and that skewed the bloods?? If not something seems off with the MS. I have no idea how to read that report so hopefully someone smarter than me chimes in.

I was just thinking the same thing that maybe the npp is actually prop. I don't know.

 

[double-leg]

It wouldn't be the first time. I'm waiting for my so called bad batch. After calling the source on his bullshit claim. Really the npp gives me a tingly feeling on my elbows and knees also my joints feel more lubricated. But atleasr labmax that shit

 

[romaleos]

Does the 10x rule apply to prop? It has half the half life of cyp/enth and clears the system twice as fast.

 

[romaleos]

Ultimate pharm test P is no bueno. Thanks for posting up. Did you at least get taken care of?

I was able to make gains so I didn't feel I needed to get replacements or refund. Plus the rep has been good to me. I just chalk it up as part of the game.

 

[romaleos]

Thanks for posting.. You can still make great gains with a 3000 TT level but it's obviously not what it's supposed to be. I wonder if the NPP was prop and that skewed the bloods?? If not something seems off with the MS. I have no idea how to read that report so hopefully someone smarter than me chimes in.

That's the point of making this thread. Not to spite UP because this is the nature of the UGL environment. I want an explanation because I'm scratching my head and ass at the same time over these results.

Hopefully someone smart can chime in. And maybe we can reevaluate the whole 10x rule. And maybe everyone does respond differently to exogenous androgens.

 

[romaleos]

It wouldn't be the first time. I'm waiting for my so called bad batch. After calling the source on his bullshit claim. Really the npp gives me a tingly feeling on my elbows and knees also my joints feel more lubricated. But atleasr labmax that shit

I should. I have some left over from this blast. I'll pick up some labmax tests and a light.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Does the 10x rule apply to prop? It has half the half life of cyp/enth and clears the system twice as fast.

The timing is important but you did the draw at 24hours so that's not the issue.

That's the point of making this thread. Not to spite UP because this is the nature of the UGL environment. I want an explanation because I'm scratching my head and ass at the same time over these results.

Hopefully someone smart can chime in. And maybe we can reevaluate the whole 10x rule. And maybe everyone does respond differently to exogenous androgens.

Not that low. I've had my best TT readings on prop but that was almost 2 years ago. I haven't seen any good prop in awhile.

I want to see someone chime in about the MS!!

 

[romaleos]

The timing is important but you did the draw at 24hours so that's not the issue.



Not that low. I've had my best TT readings on prop but that was almost 2 years ago. I haven't seen any good prop in awhile.

I want to see someone chime in about the MS!!

What was your best bloods on prop? And what was the dosing protocol?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

What was your best bloods on prop? And what was the dosing protocol?

2.5 weeks in, draw was 24hrs after last pin. In a nutshell, 3679 on 350mg/week. 10.5x

 

[double-leg]

I should. I have some left over from this blast. I'll pick up some labmax tests and a light.

Good luck

 

[double-leg]

2.5 weeks in, draw was 24hrs after last pin. In a nutshell, 3679 on 350mg/week. 10.5x

See this is it^^^^ i had my bloods done sane time and i was on 400mg prop mines came back 2800 that was the last time that fuck will see my money. Worst of all 3 weeks of intense traing that you cant buy back!!! Or replace.

 

[I_know_nothing]

Either you trust the blood testing center or Capt's MS/HPLC results. They both cannot be accurate at the same time. One of them didn't do the testing right, now which one is more likely to have done it right? The testing center or Capt's tester?

 

[I_know_nothing]

The timing is important but you did the draw at 24hours so that's not the issue.



Not that low. I've had my best TT readings on prop but that was almost 2 years ago. I haven't seen any good prop in awhile.

I want to see someone chime in about the MS!!

I can't find the spec graphs for the test P sample, i only see the spec graphs for 9-12, hard for me to make any sort of comment without knowing how exactly they did the analysis, the methods/procedures, and the spec graphs of the prop sample.

 

[dmt31]

I was just thinking the same thing that maybe the npp is actually prop. I don't know.

I'm running the npp. Like 99% sure that it's not prop and is in fact npp. I have no data other than anecdotal feelings. My elbow tendinitis went away within the first week and hasn't come back

 

[flexx89]

damn..so i guess the standard dose for a 4 week prop run at the END of a cycle would be minimum '200mg' EOD

 

[boston597]

This is fucking great seeing 1-1/2 months ago I got 4 test p.and 4 npp @ ROMALEOS .when was the gear ran and purchased

 

[romaleos]

This is fucking great seeing 1-1/2 months ago I got 4 test p.and 4 npp @ ROMALEOS .when was the gear ran and purchased

I'm guessing nov/dec 2014. And it was Astro NPP. I'll get some labmax tests to make sure the NPP is not test. My joints were feeling great but I think it was deca cause I got moon faced on the NPP.

If it weren't for the tren hex and mast p the last 4 weeks of this cycle, I would still be bloated.