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Prices are ridiculous with or without testing. China costs a fraction of what Canadian labs charge.

Almost EVERYTHING you purchase is at a much higher price than what it costs to make so WTF is your point!

Domestic labs take huge legal risks and deal with financial losses often and thus the higher prices and people who don't like that should shut the fuck up and take their chances with China made products/customs.
 
Almost EVERYTHING you purchase is at a much higher price than what it costs to make so WTF is your point!

Domestic labs take huge legal risks and deal with financial losses often and thus the higher prices and people who don't like that should shut the fuck up and take their chances with China made products/customs.

You feel like being ridiculous today?

Would you buy McNuggets and pay Kobe beef prices because “all food is marked up anyway.”?

Can I interest you in this $800 grilled cheese sandwich? It’s got legal risk and I'll even slap a sick lion hologram label on it.

Would you buy a rolex off facebook marketplace for full price because “the seller took a big risk shipping it to you”?

Would you pay $20 for instant coffee because “it was hand poured by a guy who might know what he’s doing”?
 
1) China domestic warehouse

We got HYB and maybe SSA. Last I asked SSA they said they got nothing in Canada.

2) Buy from China

It's very hard to get stuff across the border right now, packages are getting caught.

The syn and pareto and all other longstading Canadian sources mentioned here are not competitive in 2025.

Most of them don't do labs, it's mostly just Gary sniffing it, saying “yeah that smells like test e”, and slapping a hologram on it like it’s legitimate. You’re not just buying gear, you’re funding someones side hustle between call of duty matches.

Prices are ridiculous with or without testing. China costs a fraction of what Canadian labs charge.

Your points about buying from China and China domestic warehouse are completely valid.

But do you really think running a large scale UGL with 50+ SKUs like SYN is someone's side hustle? I assure you, the larger labs, employ multiple people. A side hustle would be something like Jet's Labs. The guy selling $40 vials at retail is a one man operation that operates out of his basement with little to no overhead. Sure, you get the $40 vials, but you also end up with lots of people suddenly getting scammed out of the blue, because the one man just one day decided to disappear into the abyss.

Same story with Apexa and any other "lab" aka one man operation that sold $40 vials. Whoever starts that way, either ends that way with poor longevity or they eventually expand, and expansion requires hiring personnel and added security, which obviously means higher prices for the end consumer.

So unless people go with your suggestions of China/China domestic, they either keep buying from one man operations and switching sources when the one man operation falls apart or they pay the premium and stick with the larger more reputable labs.

I am not suggesting one or the other. It's just the way it is.
 
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Anyone have a link or contact with a rep for Matrix? I asked on canadian brawn about them since they always pump these guys up but I dont know who a rep is or proper link to look?

*edit* totally forgot I asked this earlier in the thread
 
Your points about buying from China and China domestic warehouse are completely valid.

But do you really think running a large scale UGL with 50+ SKUs like SYN is someone's side hustle? I assure you, the larger labs, employ multiple people. A side hustle would be something like Jet's Labs. The guy selling $40 vials at retail is a one man operation that operates out of his basement with little to no overhead. Sure, you get the $40 vials, but you also end up with lots of people suddenly getting scammed out of the blue, because the one man just one day decided to disappear into the abyss.

Same story with Apexa and any other "lab" aka one man operation that sold $40 vials. Whoever starts that way, either ends that way with poor longevity or they eventually expand, and expansion requires hiring personnel and added security, which obviously means higher prices for the end consumer.

So unless people go with your suggestions of China/China domestic, they either keep buying from one man operations and switching sources when the one man operation falls apart or they pay the premium and stick with the larger more reputable labs.

I am not suggesting one or the other. It's just the way it is.
Very well said

Every couple of months this needs to be re explained to be people who think they are getting ripped off buying from a Canadian domestic lab

And it’s funny because these same people were the ones who were probably sending BTC to jets wallet even after he stopped answering to be able to get that super cheap test
 
You feel like being ridiculous today?

Would you buy McNuggets and pay Kobe beef prices because “all food is marked up anyway.”?

Can I interest you in this $800 grilled cheese sandwich? It’s got legal risk and I'll even slap a sick lion hologram label on it.

Would you buy a rolex off facebook marketplace for full price because “the seller took a big risk shipping it to you”?

Would you pay $20 for instant coffee because “it was hand poured by a guy who might know what he’s doing”?

What the fuck are these analogies
 
Care to elaborate? I've prob been around when you were still in your daddy's sack, little man. I just don't live on the forums and have an actual family; it's called "Responsibilities".

From what I've seen PGA only operates through the site and isn't on any forum. But then again, I don't really frequent the forums as much as before so maybe I am wrong?

But I confidentally say that I've ordered from him since before covid, after his incident in like 2020 I think, to an order about a month ago. Dude has around for like what 10 years now? And I've not had anything but positive experience with him. Consistency is scarce in this industry and that guy certainly doesn't lack that.
 
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From what I've seen PGA only operates through the site and isn't on any forum. But then again, I don't really frequent the forums as much as before so maybe I am wrong?

But I confidentally say that I've ordered from him since before covid, after his incident in like 2020 I think, to an order about a month ago. Dude has around for like what 10 years now? And I've not had anything but positive experience with him. Consistency is scarce in this industry and that guy certainly doesn't lack that.
Yeah, as far as I know, he pretty much operates exclusively off his site now (following the bust)
 

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