Valiant labs

Hey @valiant see all this shit that’s unrelated to your product being discussed? This is what happens when you do something dumb like tell us about a test and then don’t post the results. It’s also what happens when you don’t adequately explain yourself. We are seven (?) pages into this thing and guys STILL think you mixed up the samples or the brew. That’s on YOU for not thoroughly explaining the situation from the first moment that it arose.

The one common thread that runs through the SST domestic alumni is a dedication to their own pure, uncut autism. It’s like you guys have never once interacted with a human being before and the whole notion of what someone else is thinking is just a locked, windowless room to you. Like how could you have possibly anticipated that this very obvious outcome would follow your actions?

It’s almost like there’s ONE SST source with multiple brand lines.
 
Surely we should be pushing for sources to be more open about where they are manufacturing the drugs in public? Wouldn't that help to ween the shitty non-hygienic UGL's out of the equation, which after all that's got to be the aim.

I don't think special treatment for long standing/posting members here on Meso is the right way to go if you want to see where your potential product is being manufactured. Screams bribery and corruption to me, I understand the 'Opsec' behind the logic, I just don't like the favouritism.

Testing gets the customer a correctly dosed product, it doesn't get the customer a sterile product. A tested product manufactured in sterile conditions gets a great product, and that to me is what we should be pushing for.

Liska will quite happily bounce around in every other sources thread, but I never see any sources in Liskas thread? Funny old world.

You misunderstood my post slightly.

We WANT labs to post pictures of their setup. That’s always asked. But many labs are very hesitant. In an ideal world full of smart people we could simply tell the UGL to fuck off and of course no one orders. However, the blank-faced fluoride drinking Chads of the world that are super-excited to feel outlaw by ordering illegal drugs over the interwebs can’t contain themselves. If the UGL is busy enough, they’ll never feel motivated to openly post pictures of their lab setup.

I’ve tried really really hard to hold the Chads back but they are extremely persistent and increasingly desperate. Like drug fiends. Unfortunately they are usually the same ones that bugger off within 2 months. Real assets to the MESO community.

So absent the public lab setup photos you can ask via email before ordering. I, personally would never consider ordering without seeing lab setups. Fucking Trips would never do that. All he provided was a terrible half-blurry pic of his v-mixer. Stupid. And that’s why I consider him a shitty source.

Assuming you exercise your due diligence and are able to see pictures of the setup, you can always PM a more experienced person to give their opinion on the lab setup. I’m quite certain that @Liska would give the thumbs up/thumbs down or suggest what else to get pictures of. I’d be glad to do it as well. There’s a lot of guys (and girls) here that really know their shit just ask.
 
Hey @valiant see all this shit that’s unrelated to your product being discussed? This is what happens when you do something dumb like tell us about a test and then don’t post the results. It’s also what happens when you don’t adequately explain yourself. We are seven (?) pages into this thing and guys STILL think you mixed up the samples or the brew. That’s on YOU for not thoroughly explaining the situation from the first moment that it arose.

The one common thread that runs through the SST domestic alumni is a dedication to their own pure, uncut autism. It’s like you guys have never once interacted with a human being before and the whole notion of what someone else is thinking is just a locked, windowless room to you. Like how could you have possibly anticipated that this very obvious outcome would follow your actions?
SST is a board with a hive-mind no doubt and I dare challenge anyone from SST to change my opinion as I've taken a good look at that forum (but not a member there). Seems members there take after their sources and are united in the fact they are the best there are when they really aren't.

In other words SST is an echo-chamber.

Here on Meso everyone's opinions are respected and that the primary mission of Meso is harm reduction. Seems these source boards don't really do a good job vetting sources as they just want the board fees. When a scam happens the scamming source just poof disappears no explanation.
 
SST is a board with a hive-mind no doubt and I dare challenge anyone from SST to change my opinion as I've taken a good look at that forum (but not a member there). Seems members there take after their sources and are united in the fact they are the best there are when they really aren't.

In other words SST is an echo-chamber.

Here on Meso everyone's opinions are respected and that the primary mission of Meso is harm reduction. Seems these source boards don't really do a good job vetting sources as they just want the board fees. When a scam happens the scamming source just poof disappears no explanation.
There's a finer point to be made here: SST members being good little puppies is because they aren't responsible for the vetting, the mods take care of that (and there's at least one among them as strict and experienced as the best Meso has at vetting) unlike at Meso where the members don't get their food pre-chewed, they've to do all the work themselves.

Those reading Meso all day (mostly at work) have noticed Meso losing its teeth as well, so the critical Meso members are having to 'vet' the fluffy sheep members more and more, but are ultimately powerless since any retard can dilute the decent vets/vetting by shouting/spamming g2g.

Scamming sources are a plague on all boards, and Meso is no exception. They don't even get permanently banned here. Some may even be sponsors.

I think Meso is the best harm prevention board, but it can still be a lot better if the community was more critical of itself as well.
 
i will never chastise another noob for not reading a thread before they use their first post to ask for contact information.

You mother fuckers couldn't stay on track if you were magnetized to the rails, and of fucking course, the underground insider himself, @Liska is once again practicing "harm reduction" by arguing with a member in another thread he doesn't belong in.

You have an SST source that isn't capable or knowledgeable enough to be sourcing here, let alone on SST, while another source that transplanted himself from SST tries to turn this forum into SST.

Cesspool indeed!
 
i will never chastise another noob for not reading a thread before they use their first post to ask for contact information.

You mother fuckers couldn't stay on track if you were magnetized to the rails, and of fucking course, the underground insider himself, @Liska is once again practicing "harm reduction" by arguing with a member in another thread he doesn't belong in.

You have an SST source that isn't capable or knowledgeable enough to be sourcing here, let alone on SST, while another source that transplanted himself from SST tries to turn this forum into SST.

Cesspool indeed!
My lord and saviour, I didn't know MSG labs was on SST before! I'm so thankful you came here to tell everyone where they belong, to show them their rightful place! Bless you for punishing all of us cesspoolboys with your divine rod indeed!
 
There you go. Shit up more threads with your convoluted idea of harm reduction.
Thank you from the bottom of my worthless heart for the nearly 14.000 blessed posts full of wisdom you've made!

When as the grass the wicked grow,
when sinners flourish here below,
then is there endless ruin nigh,
but you, O MSG, are throned on high;
your foes shall fall before your might,
the wicked shall be put to flight.
 
Thank you from the bottom of my worthless heart for the nearly 14.000 blessed posts full of wisdom you've made!

When as the grass the wicked grow,
when sinners flourish here below,
then is there endless ruin nigh,
but you, O MSG, are throned on high;
your foes shall fall before your might,
the wicked shall be put to flight.
The cats are kinda wierd.
 
Thank you from the bottom of my worthless heart for the nearly 14.000 blessed posts full of wisdom you've made!

When as the grass the wicked grow,
when sinners flourish here below,
then is there endless ruin nigh,
but you, O MSG, are throned on high;
your foes shall fall before your might,
the wicked shall be put to flight.
blasphemy
 
How do you know your over paying? what if the price is reflected in the underdosage?
That’s terrible logic in this instance. These are not legal companies bound by laws or the BBB. There are no ramifications for drug dealers fucking over customers aside from customers bringing up issues. and when other members on a forum allow drug dealers to behave and operate however they please and make excuses for shit products, well then you have a fucking shit storm and the vendors run the forum. That’s not what we want here. And it’s why vendors are vetted the way they are.

also, raws testing is just as important as finished product testing. I wouldn’t want to be injecting 85% pure raws even if it is overdosed to make sure the product is “accurately dosed”. It doesn’t change the fact that 15% of the dissolved solids are not the right chemical. I don’t know what impurities are in raws, but I don’t want to inject that shit
 
Hey @valiant see all this shit that’s unrelated to your product being discussed? This is what happens when you do something dumb like tell us about a test and then don’t post the results. It’s also what happens when you don’t adequately explain yourself. We are seven (?) pages into this thing and guys STILL think you mixed up the samples or the brew. That’s on YOU for not thoroughly explaining the situation from the first moment that it arose.

The one common thread that runs through the SST domestic alumni is a dedication to their own pure, uncut autism. It’s like you guys have never once interacted with a human being before and the whole notion of what someone else is thinking is just a locked, windowless room to you. Like how could you have possibly anticipated that this very obvious outcome would follow your actions?
Soon as I’m back at the shop I am going to post the results. Then just post eq when comes in with the rest.
 
The results will be posted when I’m back at the shop. And then the rest when they are sent out and results come in. Everyone have a safe weekend. I still understand and am willing to abide by the standards of meso and it’s members.
 
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