Valiant labs

You’re funny lol. That made me laugh man. Hope you Have a good weekend man.
Active ingredient mg content desired per cap x full capsule of filler / full cap of active ingredient= amount of filler that needs to be removed from the capsule. I weigh 20 capsules of active ingredient and divide the weight by 20 for the average weight. I do the same with the active ingredient
 
I’ve never seen a worse businessman. Does he not understand by answering these questions he could get more orders?

I think he is all too familiar with what would happen if he answers those questions.

If he was GOOD, you're absolutely correct, he'd see exponential growth in orders.

But if he's a hack, he'll be exposed and business will be fucked. A hack obviously will deflect and avoid these tougher questions.

Either way, we get our answer.
 
Active ingredient mg content desired per cap x full capsule of filler / full cap of active ingredient= amount of filler that needs to be removed from the capsule. I weigh 20 capsules of active ingredient and divide the weight by 20 for the average weight. I do the same with the active ingredient

I am answering as many questions as I see them. None of it is meant to evade any thing. I posted pictures of my lab when I said the testing came in. I’m now getting more testing. But those who seen my lab. I put that much into a lab and equipment and wouldn’t know how to use it ? Seems outlandish. But however I am trying to get to everyone’s questions and requests. Next would be the rest of the compounds for testing.
 
Active ingredient mg content desired per cap x full capsule of filler / full cap of active ingredient= amount of filler that needs to be removed from the capsule. I weigh 20 capsules of active ingredient and divide the weight by 20 for the average weight. I do the same with the active ingredient

Then what…. Cause if you go straight to the cap making process you’re incorrect.

Also how many caps are u pressing at once what filler are u using and off the top of your head how much filler will fit in each cap?

Edit
I am going to assume you are still using #4 caps
 
Active ingredient mg content desired per cap x full capsule of filler / full cap of active ingredient= amount of filler that needs to be removed from the capsule. I weigh 20 capsules of active ingredient and divide the weight by 20 for the average weight. I do the same with the active ingredient
That's what I figured. That's what I would do because close enough is close enough, it's easy, and I'm not making 1,000s of caps.

That's not how YOU should do it. Your dosing is going to be way off from cap to cap. And forget about low-dosed products like arimidex.

You didn't mention what you use as binder or filler. Not that it matters at this point anyway.
 
That's what I figured. That's what I would do because close enough is close enough, it's easy, and I'm not making 1,000s of caps.

That's not how YOU should do it. Your dosing is going to be way off from cap to cap. And forget about low-dosed products like arimedex.

You didn't mention what you use as binder or filler. Not that it matters at this point anyway.

Look at bbbg on point!!!
 
Hey man. Yea the witch hunt and the cursing kind of throws the whole professionalism off. I feel like people think actually companies like Pfizer source as ugls lol. Meso has a different vetting and overall platform then sst and I made the mistake when I first posted which I get. But I got the samples I had completed done I also had the pictures of my lab put up which is an actual lab and clean room not someone’s kitchen. I thank you for your guidance. I am answering the questions as I see them. I’m am completing orders in my actual website and doing this and sst. So I’m answering as I get them but I’m getting like 25 a day. Other than the test results that I am getting done I don’t know what else really I can say. I want to focus on the people buying from me and making sure they are taken care off instead of focusing on the negativity and accusations being shot at me like missiles lol
How do you make your fucking orals!? It’s a simple question. Why won’t you answer it. What request has been unreasonable? Trust me only an idiot thinks you’re on par with Pfizer but we do think it’s reasonable to expect transparency before we put drugs from a stranger on the internet into our bodies.
Again, how do you make your orals???????!!!!!

edit: saw he gave a half ass answer. Don’t buy his orals
 
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Hey @valiant, once you peel back all of the layers of foul language and accusations, there are some VERY valid questions and points in this thread.

You have continuously left questions unanswered, I mean how many time did @shackleford have to ask you different questions in different ways before he got one straight forward answer to only 1 of his many questions?

You still have not posted anything about how you make your orals. It took you several times longer to post any photos of your lab than you said it would. You said pics in 48 hours and it took you something like 2 weeks.

What about your non-US domestic that you initially claimed was US domestic? You almost had a customer in me, but then I saw this thread and your credibility tumbled hard.

You can get defensive and ignore questions you don't like all you want, but that just shows your character, not ours.
well said
 
@valiant, theres some good questions here needing answered, but i'm going to add a couple more.

I'm a little confused about your next round of testing and i'm looking for some clarification. You said you are sending 7 finished oils. Now it seems you are waiting until you finish making orals to send. Please update with an exact number of finished items you are sending. Also, are you creating batch numbers to tie the batch to the results? The answer should be an honest yes. I suggest you send several samples of each oral to identify any variance between capsules.

Observation: its taking you a week or two to finish making your product to send out for testing. Do you feel you you will be able to keep up with demand after testing?

Sometimes we arent the most tactful here, but guys alot smarter than me are asking good questions for a reason. I am looking forward to your response.
 
The Prince has made it very clear that he's taking the Trips approach. String us along, only do what is absolutely necessary, and hope that customer popularity gradually increases.

This is the current issue with MESO lately. When we use to band together the sources would have no choice but to listen. Look at any of the washed up labs:

Big Bear

Fire Pharm

Atlantic Labs



We didn't let them coast along. We didn't coach them up. They tried their best to stay but we came together and refrained from purchasing.

Glance through the threads, Valiant and Trips are absolutely no better than these labs. We need to get our standards back up and quit giving these shitty labs the time of day.

LET THE THREADS DIE... you don't need to be the guy that keeps vetting and repeating the same questions. When the source bumps his own thread, we just need ONE guy to post "Do Not Order from this Lab. They Have Not Completed the Vetting Process"

See how long these fuckers try to hang on. It'll be like it was 2 years ago. Shitty labs leave.
 
@valiant, theres some good questions here needing answered, but i'm going to add a couple more.

I'm a little confused about your next round of testing and i'm looking for some clarification. You said you are sending 7 finished oils. Now it seems you are waiting until you finish making orals to send. Please update with an exact number of finished items you are sending. Also, are you creating batch numbers to tie the batch to the results? The answer should be an honest yes. I suggest you send several samples of each oral to identify any variance between capsules.

Observation: its taking you a week or two to finish making your product to send out for testing. Do you feel you you will be able to keep up with demand after testing?

Sometimes we arent the most tactful here, but guys alot smarter than me are asking good questions for a reason. I am looking forward to your response.
Not once did I say that. I am waiting for the sample vials to get in and I am waiting for raw for one of the compounds I’m sending. If you seen my lab I think I will be ok with production.
 
To anyone even considering to order from @valiant right now, DO NOT ORDER.

Currently he only has testing for 3 items, and the moron got his oils mixed up with testing.

He has no testing for caps and has not even demonstrated that he knows how to properly make caps.

If the quality of his products are anything like the quality of his customer service to potential customers, they will be garbage.
False. Never mixed up orders and so far my testing came back good. Have a good weekend. And we are gtg.
 
False. Never mixed up orders and so far my testing came back good. Have a good weekend. And we are gtg.
Gtg? If the half ass thread, terrible business operation, and lack of answering genuine questions wasn’t already an indication, this confirms you have to be trolling at this point.

Have you read literally anything in this thread, or on Meso? A source is never ever gtg. Especially not a source that:

Doesn’t have all their products tested.
Doesn’t have batch numbers to correspond with said testing.
Doesn’t answer questions and is evasive a
Has to be schooled by the vets on how to properly cap.

You truly are a fucking moron, but at least you finally responded to me, I feel special.

THIS SOURCE IS NOT GTG. HE DOES NOT HAVE TESTING ON ALL PRODUCTS, AND CONFUSED OILS WHEN SENDING SOME IN FOR TESTING. DO NOT ORDER UNLESS YOU LOVE STARBURST MYSTERY FLAVOR PACKS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING BUT @valiant DOESNT KNOW EITHER
 
The Prince has made it very clear that he's taking the Trips approach. String us along, only do what is absolutely necessary, and hope that customer popularity gradually increases.

This is the current issue with MESO lately. When we use to band together the sources would have no choice but to listen. Look at any of the washed up labs:

Big Bear

Fire Pharm

Atlantic Labs



We didn't let them coast along. We didn't coach them up. They tried their best to stay but we came together and refrained from purchasing.

Glance through the threads, Valiant and Trips are absolutely no better than these labs. We need to get our standards back up and quit giving these shitty labs the time of day.

LET THE THREADS DIE... you don't need to be the guy that keeps vetting and repeating the same questions. When the source bumps his own thread, we just need ONE guy to post "Do Not Order from this Lab. They Have Not Completed the Vetting Process"

See how long these fuckers try to hang on. It'll be like it was 2 years ago. Shitty labs leave.
I seen this after my recent post. I agree with everything said, and will not post in here unless I’m tagged. DO NOT ORDER DROM THIS LAB THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE VETTING PROCESS
 
Not once did I say that. I am waiting for the sample vials to get in and I am waiting for raw for one of the compounds I’m sending. If you seen my lab I think I will be ok with production.
Ok, i'm glad you feel confident in your abilities. Unfortunately I don't share your confidence, and you not helping to build it. You acknowledged my post, and replied, but no answer to my questions? That speaks for itself.
 
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